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I'm bookmarking this 1st post for cataloguing purposes as well as introducing and creating the topic. This thread is for posting ideas for new tricks, or potential areas of study in developing new tricks. This also includes such things as assessing possible areas where if a trick was found, time could be saved. Thus, new route development, and alternate tricks/strategies are also a fundamental part of the thread's purpose. All zelda scientists welcome! Educated trick questions, explanations, and route queries are also encouraged.

Tricks being currently discussed

Low%
[MS] Low% looks like its as low as it goes as of now.


Any%
[SS] Reverse DOT Skip [No Hoverboots]
[BA] Ganon's Castle early no ISG/Hover Boots
[BA] New Bottle B or Deku B Method (Most likely Lon-Lon)
[BA] Steal Rod (Child) or DoT Skip without Sword

MST
[Dungeon] Boomerang without Ruto

100%

ALL
[All] Light Arrow Skip (or Lullaby/Magic)
[All] Tower Descent Sequence Break

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Not sure if anti gravity glitch would work in ToT for hover boots skip what anybody else think

i'm not 100% on how that works but we need like a ceiling sloping downwards at a certain angle.

"seamwalking" on the edge doesn't work either, the wall will eject link no matter what. so basically, I'm not sure what we could do. I did mess around in there for like an hour thinking of ideas but your inventory is extremely limited at this point and i'm just not seeing it. the best we got is that oob but from there only the hover boost seems to be viable

We need a way to get chus from gerudo training ground without explosives.  I was thinking about it today and it could save a good amount of time in MST SS and make the route a lot more interesting.  Its 2 key doors to the right in the main room.  You can get 2 keys but you need to use 1 key to the left to get the 2nd key.  Also if its possible to somehow clear the first room to the right without explosives (theres a beamos there) then the SoT blocks in the sea of fire room will be there and you can just climb up those to get to the chus.

Almost a new low% silver block skip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATELf2izY0A)

Just need to get behind the pillar with a damage ess or a chu megaflip.

Nice one Unreal. And I think I know how to do it w/o superslide.

how?

is seekrit. Though don't get eager about it, it may not work.

Megasidehop + Jump slash doesn't work.  >:(

why? do you just not clip thru or does the jumpslash nto work?

On one frame you will clip back in bounds and on the next you won't land on the ground, just fall oob.

that's weird. what bout megaflip-ess?

also, 200th post!  ;D :o ::) 8)

You do know the superslide would be easy as crap with ISG so you wont fly off. So if we do a weird slide ESS it would help using ISG.

Apparently ISG doesn't let you clip through at all, but that was with a mega sidehop, not sure about an ess.

You can clip through with a Superslide even with ISG on. Pretty sure the megaflip/megasidehop only clip through if you hit the corner while in the air, so if it's possible to land oob it'll be frame perfect.

I have a theory:

In the Gerudo Training Grounds in the treasure room with all the chains, it is apparent that nintendo has crappy programming once again. Maybe you can hookshot clip through chains.

now that's an Idea, I'm gonna test that.

Ive almost clipped through. If it works it should look like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTsKvM6RMvQ

.... umm, I want to see it

New method of walking while talking could lead to swordless steal rod. just an idea.

What became of that gerudo training ground chus? I remember I couldn't kill the damn beamos when I tried shit back in the day.

um, what's the new method of walking while talking and how could it be used in fishing pond? :o

The idea would be that if the camera is too far away from the fishing guy and detached, that it will make the text not come up...

But can you even talk to Navi while having the rod?

Can you not atleast reach the fishing tank? also you couldnt hit deku nuts iirc so how would this work?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si6cb-L37YQ

lol probably useless

Lol that's why I said a "New" method, aka one where you can just detach the camera without using that method. A camera detachment method so that it mmight think we are somewhere else in the room etc.

Prelude Cutscene Skip with Mush Timer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdHxm8-X1ho&feature=channel_page)

Minuet Skip (ISG + 1 Bomb) & Advanced Hover techniques (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZqK1LNjMMw) (AKA double bomb Kokiri boots, and Sideflip hover with bombs).

Also unfortunately the route idea I had about using Light Arrow B with MSCS to skip forest cutscene, Minuet Skip, unreal's prelude skip, skipping Medallions RBAs (doing it up till songs), Skipping Light Arrow Cutscene, and finding a new Early Ganon was a failure.

It all came down to not needing ISG or Hoverboots... the idea was that maybe having a bottle in the light arrow spot would trigger the cutscene. Kinda like how having a bottle in the bombs slot gives us bomb drops. That way we could simply RBA a bottle to the Light Arrow spot, and walk across the bridge to ganon's castle. TOO BAD IT DOESNT WORK :S The trigger for the Rainbow Bridge is this: Light Arrows (Has to be Light Arrows) in the Light Arrows Spot (Specifically) AND Spirit and Shadow Medallions. Lame.

Added Ganon's Castle early no ISG/Hover Boots to the any% list.  I'm sure there's a way...

Some more possible things would be to be able to grab Ruto's bottle without dive animation, escape forest through Zora's river warp, and to skip rocks at entrance to Zora's river.

get giants wallet with 10 skulltulas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-hOBFg3l54

Acryte - Load Bypass (Ocarina Method) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5w4eZnw5QA)
This trick so far can only be done using the run fast cheat to move myself, but if there was some way we could like... ESS or something and be able to move/slide with the ocarina out... we could bypass graphic loads. This could serve quite useful, as it could potentially mean no hoverboots reverse DoT skip, or who knows what... All I know is, it's good to know. Now lets go find out how to pull this shit off without a slippery slope lol (keep in mind we all know slippery slopes can allow us to move during Ocarina playing, so it may be possible somehow to slide during our Ocarina crap :S)

Useless but funny: playing ocarina while moving: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfJJHTn4zQ0
(Sorry for the titanic intro).

(Sorry Actrye, it won't help for your load bypass).

yea that's a pretty old one. I think it was on JayTheHam (Zelda Chaos) for a long long time. But I got 2 new vids. Apparently we can use Down A for Collection Delay. Pretty cool. Of course, we have yet to find a use for Collection Delay but who knows... it may lead to something. I had an idea for stacking the seed bag upgrades I was supposed to receive so that I received multiple at once, but it didn't work because the way the camera pivots after the 1st time, it doesnt reset and then it pivots again but this time it makes the scrub go in the wrong direction and he falls off the stump. Anyways funny shit, but no 2nd bag, and if you finish his text it locks up. So I utilized a trick to be able to collect the 1st while starting the 2nd. It's all explained in the video comments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PjPoIaY8g4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5y1qXOyRMM

Ideas I will test soon:
Swimming on land + NL Hess and other options
bomb push + NL Easy HESS on same frame...
Shieldslap/More New glitches/New glitches vids AKA HF glitchtacularness... figuring it out. See if we can glitch it to our advantage.

Grunz found a way to get magic bean without explosives (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alaNDJq_5ug) which counts as a scarecrow skip ;D

We should get some frame data on speed deterioration + how long we have to Water ESS

Yesterday I realized that if you warp out of a dungeon using a song you learned after casting Farfore's Wind and then enter another dungeon and use Farfore's Wind again you can warp back to other dungeons.

It's probably been known about for ages but maybe it could be used to get places faster through the dungeons, just a thought.

Lol, SKZ that's funny cause I just found that out the other day myself.  :P I thought it was new honestly...

uuugh. Isn't that just using FW to warp where you placed it?

Ya you guys are nubs :P

I found that the 3rd thrust of Broken Knife can give you a hover boost.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2tMVNCRpJ0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2tMVNCRpJ0)

Dunno if this is old or not but I found Navi(s)! Completely useless but entertaining

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAgyr_Gdy4c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAgyr_Gdy4c)

WTF

Silver Block skip only using 2 bombchus. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE_YMyk0wM4)

Get wrecked.

And who was just saying all the basics were figured out? Awesome man.

Er my mistake, it's been knwon for a while you could clip there, just the issue was not falling OoB...

Quick megaflip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGdpzDHix1I

well, seems useless for now but still cool. Did a semi recoil flip in oot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51147-NkqJk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51147-NkqJk)

This is useless, but it's cool. "I guess."

OOB Kokiri Forest:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lVSNM3RWY8

I found that first.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03aOdnY0Hz8

I found a weird glitch today while practicing a speedrun segment, during a conversation with the cucco lady I was mashing the B button fast and I used my B item during the conversation before she gave me Cojiro...

Maybe "yes or no" questions have a tiny frame of time after them that allows you to use items/move/pause, etc?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlfMhk_SW3I

That's actually old but not well documented. It can also happen when trading Cojiro -> Odd Mushroom

also lol your poor black gauntlets are forever gone :(

This can happen at the end of many texts. And yes, it's a segment killer if you happen to drop the bugs before Cojiro is given to you.

I tested this after talking to King Zora but before he started moving...you can initiate pauses as well so I was hoping to be able to save and quit but the bottle doesn't change to empty until he is done moving.

This is essentially what Jiano does in MM to dupe bottles as well, right?

Megaflip across the Gerudo Bridge without ISG.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU27ZETHNjo

Nice job.

- Pokey escape only works without having visited Zelda for the lullaby
(discovered by Siglemic and ingx24)


Deku web clip doesn't need to be done fast, what matters is the camera doesn't look at the web yet..... still trying to figure out why burning the 1st web doesn't seem to work.

it's definately possible to do pokey's forest escape after you have lullaby

unless I'm misreading something

you sure about that? vid?

Documented proof of me being right, for future generations to witness:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxMCHMPMWiQ

I could have told you that :/

All that happens is that the kokiri kid is weird and doesn't look at you.

but you didn't

i understand you're jealous, but try holding it in ;D

new to me, old to zfg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45Nkv1iRINQ

yeah i found these glitches a while back and thought they were some interesting glitches
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhAulCtrqrk

Sorry, but if you use cheats they don't count as glitchs.

Well both of those can be done without cheats.

ok what i did was start up oot i dont remember everything but ill tell you all i remember i started in links house with full nuts 8 sticks full slingshot ammo bottle with bug from cucco lady zelda lullaby sun song zeldas letter 10 gold skullutas 2 heart pieces and adults wallet with 199 rupees. i did pokeys escape forest early walked to karikariko village night came so i played sun song waited till the music started than entered. decided to try bomchu early from well so i wasted 2 sticks getting into well using the cucco. from there i watch some videos of the early chu glitch and had attempted it i had 3 full hearts. so i tried the glitch i had failed i tried kazooies early chus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQE-MQo3pbY i had failed my first attempt so i decided to save and reset to get hearts back than i got the compass and thought about getting the map but realized its block and i need bombs so once i fell down i played sun song got the silver rupees and tried the glitch again and failed. but then i found another way which is a bit easier which i was done by Cs1987s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8F_wenZa7M&feature=related
i got 2 hearts(i had 2 full hearts and 1/4 of the third when i got the hearts) from some pots and tried the deku nuts way i failed and wasted 5 nuts so i save and reseted than i tried again and almost got it. i kept getting closer and when i went to try it again my inventory was screwed up in my video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brks6c9hvqw
btw i was doing this on v1.1 and it was on file 3 i than copied it to file 2 before my items got fucked up.

This seems to be unintentional crooked cart. Well, that's the best explanation for now. Somehow the save files got fucked up and crooked cart can do that, so yeah.

Ok guys.

If we can get an ocarina dive in Bottom of the Well we will bypass the loadng point and get to the basement unloaded. So people try to ocarina dive because if it works it cuts off about 8 - 9 minutes in the SS.

Ocarina Dive doesn't really look possible unless you have Hover Boots...
However if you could position yourself properly.

Stationary Sideflip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2Y-fUX16eg

This gains pure sideways distance. If anything, it would look cool in a TAS. I'm sure it's old but I can't find any vids of it.

Yeah, just start the ESS animation while standing still to do this.

I am SOOO close to a new, no shield needed forest escape:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNWGdquWb-E

Anyone who can figure out how to make it fully work can have partial credit.

I'm really close as well, but I'm thinking there's just barely not enough speed to get through. I'll keep trying though.

hmm nice find defintely first thing tomorrow ill help you get this to work

hey, i don't know if this belongs here but i played the song of time to open the door of time as adult link and the door didn't open. i had all 3 stones already and skipped the door just to test playing the song as adult.
looks like a 100% run might lose time since you'd need to use the trick to get bombs on B with the cutscene to go back in time and then repeat the DoT skip as child. some timing would be needed.

You need to exit the ToT, then go back in and play the SoT.

oh i see... heh didn't try that. thanks.

I was thinking that it might be possible to get ISG off of Shiek then somehow clip through one of the clippable pillars(without the sword, maybe a precises sidehop?) and then use the ISG to walk the edge all the way pass to the DoT. Alternately if someone could figure out how to use bombs(or anything else that might help trigger ISG) in the ToT you could enable ISG after jumpslashing into the pillar.

If you had bombs you could just superslide through the door or megaflip from inside the pillar...

No, you're a nub for thinking you can use bombs in ToT without BA <_<

I knew you couldn't use bombs without BA but there could be a way to make C-button items usable in the ToT, you never know.

I think he meant that. >_>

Keep the Master Sword during the Ganon fight using Din's Fire

Just discovered this today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrYli3y512E

(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3182/linkblankstare.png)

Nice one!!

Yeah, I saw that last night, aleck! The look on Link's face... priceless!

Nice find!

here's a semi-discovery.

the Gerudo RBA chest contains the spooky mask in the Wii VC version. more confirmation that the Wii VC version is v1.2 with the crescent moon symbol replaced with the symbol found in the GC version.

Found another glitch today using the "use item during trigger" glitch.

Get stuck, freeze the game in fishing hole:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaExgsyi15c


I'm sure there are TONS more places to experiment using items during triggers...

Walking in Poe cutscene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0EQv9ymFHo

Sequence break for Forest Temple 100% IL and MP's run.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3CdQD_UUD0

Huuum... I've just noticed that there was an dugeon entrance mark on the Hyrule field map. It is in the left-up corner of the sreen (I was playing with widescreen on).
Is this a real one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWAxtJdjdok sorry, it's by night, but you can see it.

That's always there, and no, it's not a real dungeon. You can see it on emulators too. In areas that don't have a dungeon (like Hyrule Field), they just wanted to get it out of the way. On a normal playing TV on a console, you'd never see it. With the capture devices, emulators, and wide screens, you can.

more item experimentation

- saving with empty B (steal rod method) will become stick B as child link
- you can rebuy sticks and nuts and they will overwrite bottles in those slots. so you can never fuck yourself out of sticks and nuts.
- the same is not true of bombchus apparently from maxx's impromptu run. which is kinda weird.

- i activated the false deku stick count by duping a bottle over the deku stick slot then buying one.

I can confirm all of this from my impromptu, haha.  I bought a Deku Stick so I could OI, and it replaced the bottle I had duped in that slot.  It said 0 on the Item screen but 1 on the C button, iirc.  Buying chus did not fix the chu slot.

I'm such a child

heh i had noticed that dot in the left corner a long time ago. never paid much attention because i thought it was just some random thing in the display of the game.

Reduce the lag level to almost NOTHING in teh Ganondorf fight on the N64:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_Ske8_2JL4


The jumpslash isn't difficult at all with a little practice.

so Jiano came to my hotel room at pound4 and we were playing some OoT and we were messing around. and he accidently got hit during his megaflip off a bomb and died, but was still flying thru the air at 27 speed while dead. i thought maybe it could be a new dive technique (fairy rez) but after you touch water link just floats there dead. no known uses yet.

what happens if you fly through a loading area for instance, a lost woods passage?

I remember this happening to me a few times when I was playing around in low% (inb4everythingisoldtozfg>_>).

Nothing special, next area loads and you die when touching the ground.

A small Gerudo Fortress shortcut trick:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM2FNSGlUjQ

Might be useful for something....

What would this be for?


BTW 100TH REPLY HAHAHAHAHA

Well if you have to go up to the lookout and want to get back into the middle area of the fortress without having to go back in the door you came out of/start over from the ground.... you can use this instead. And it uses no items, which is helpful for any run. 

I found an improved setup for the No-ISG Bridge Skip just now. It uses more precise alignments. It has a much greater chance of getting you across without falling on the other side. Also if you don't see the red dot after the turn-around you can just simply redo the turn-around until you see the red dot. It turns out that the turn-around is actually the most variable step in the whole trick, re-trying the turn-around will get you the red dot eventually, but if you do the setup correctly you almost always get the red dot.

Here's a video I made of me doing the No-ISG Bridge Skip with my new setup. I get across 3 times in a row:

http://www.mediafire.com/?jygznzm04gw

And the Youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVIWZ3e6D44

The setup:

Do the setup as normal up until the first angle alignment. For the first angle alignment you want the right-most corner point on the hookshot to line up with the right side of the black vertical wall line in the picture below. Notice that Link's breathing makes the hookshot sway left and right. The hookshot's corner point needs to line up with the right side of the black line when the hookshot is at it's peak of swaying to the right. Also remember to not move the hookshot up or down at all during this alignment, only move it left and right.

(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/2578/setup1m.jpg)

Now sidehop to the right. For the second angle alignment you need to align the B button's right-most edge with the right-most edge of the wooden pillar where it meets the hill in the background (see picture below).

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7403/setup2.jpg)

Now do the turn-around trick and hook the post as low as possible while still seeing the red dot. If you do not see the red dot, rotate the hookshot back around and try the turn-around again until you get the red dot to appear. REMEMBER, do not put the hookshot in your pocket for the turn-around trick, it will make you move too far and may make you fall off the post.


That's it. This setup gives you a much better chance of not falling when you hook the post. I was able to get across without falling multiple times in a row.

Help find odd mushroom no explosives (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDCai6Lt4CE).

I've had a look at the Fortress and I can't come up with any credible theory to get the odd mushroom.

Reverse No-ISG Hookshot Bridge Skip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=875Z8PE2rY4

I don't think adult superslides without NL work on the PAL version of OOT. I've tried it probably over 200 times and haven't gotten it once even though on ntsc my success rate with them is near 100%...

i'd like to see some exact frame data on adult superslides

Ok it seems they're a bit different than I thought.

Important: The closer you are to the bomb the more frames you get. Also this is in Mupen so 60 FPS. I put the 20 FPS in parenthesis.

You need to Roll 33 or 36(11 or 12) frames before the explosion. This is the frame before the 7th flash and the 7th flash.

If you roll 33 frames before the explosion, you need to grab 15(5) frames later. If you grab earlier, you'll get a ground jump. Too late and you won't grab it.

If you roll 36 frames before the explosion, you can grab 12 or 15 frames later(4 or 5). The same deal as above if you roll early/late.

Now you can be a bit further out and then you can only roll 36 frames before the explosion and you can only grab 15 frames later. It doesn't seem possible to get a ground jump if you're at max distance(Assuming you rolled on the correct frame).

This makes me sad because I mash for the grab, which is apparently a bad thing to do, I thought it was always impossible to grab too early if you rolled correctly.

I've done hundreds of no NL adult superslides and I'm playing on PAL version. But I've always found it difficult. I don't know if there is a difference with NTSC...

ok well it seems they do work... the timing is just 2-3 frames different from on ntsc. apparently the shield's hitbox is different on pal version.

it also seems that megaflipping off enemies doesn't work the same as on ntsc... if it does work then the timing is definitely different because i've pause buffered them on pal and have never gotten it once. neither has klyde.

All roll stuff and glitches what uses rolls in them is hard on PAL version. Idk why but roll seems little bit different from NTSC version and I have PAL version because of that. Some peoples say timing is easier on PAL but they are wrong. Almost every trick in PAL version is harder than on NTSC version. I know that too because I did SS run on PAL version and it was pain in ass! I higly recommend NTSC version for everyone or cube version of oot :)

dupe bottle over nuts and stick # is false somehow, its like the RBA thing except it was just a bottle dupe

also as we all know flagging the wrong bits in inv can cause flashing blackness, well tonight I got it to stay black and not flash, it was literally a big black polygon stretching across my inv, the cursor and items went behind it. it was empty bottle in deku nut slot. but I had the empty bottle there for awhile and it didnt happen. Actually it might have been blue fire in deku nut slot. i think this is related to the # thing and having the # not appear after you dupe it (I think this causes stick # to hit 0. they all seem connected)

some stuff jiano has been workin with

pause buffered cucco jump (quite easy)
backwalk thru wasteland (easy)
pause buffer stalfos megaflip (not super easy but not hard)

botw chus still suck
so does the gerudo bridge skip

wat

vid of the first 2 plz

I buffer ruto throw

discuss

Pause buffering the angled sidehop jumpslash in dodongo's cavern:

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=6IPC006D

Hey, im new here, im a freind of Cerpin_Taxt, i found a way to enter adult spirit temple as a child in MQ:

1.-Looking at the wall, get near the geyser.
2.-Side jump and then immediatly jump attack.
 You should be at the top of the geyser, there you can do:

·Jump to the void, and do a looooooooong fall (that happened to me first XD)
·Turn back, and you should see the entrance hall, jump, and somehow, you will respawn as if you fell in an abyss.
·jump to the other side of the hallway and there, you are in adult spirit temple as a child.

I dont know if this was already discovered, btw.

did that my first playthrough of MQ ever and ruined my game =]

whats with me getting ISG and staying crouched and getting a ground jump + ISG at the same time?

Didn't jiano find something like this in MM too?

That's super old. 

Leave it to zfg to tell you something's old.

-_-

How does anyone not know about this?

You just store a ground jump with a crouch then hit Z before you stand up.

i did this when i first learned isg

...i didnt know how to do it otherwise and thats how i did all my ground jumps

Yeah that's pissed me off so many times if I hit L too fast after doing the isg. That's what everyones talking about right?

New OoT HESS with swim on land, NL and superswimming (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaICZNrlq-U)

the hyrule field glitch
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/5080335

Can anyone tell me hot to "press" the switch you magaflip at Jabu Jabu's?? I've seen that you backflip and when on top the bottle cutscene comes but before the switch is pressed

Drop and catch the fish so link is holding the bottle, then jump on the switch, and while in midair from the jump press the bottle button

BotW Chus 100% consistency
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJTpBulnego

I was backwalking in Kakariko to the well (already drained) and I never looked at it with my camera. when I reached it for like a couple frames it acted like there was water there. no video

I've had that happen to me before similarly; I was trying to find a way to break into BotW from the well, and when I jumped down I landed in invisible water (not OoB), then fell out. Could never find it again

I've had the same happen when I backwalked to the well from the entrance, then started sidehopping toward the graveyard.  Accidentally sidehopped into the well and hit invisible water.

You lucky bastards. That never happened to me.  >:(

Shoot through walls:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOTHaYUYm44


I've known about this clipping trick for a LONG time but I never realized that you can shoot at eye-level as child Link (adult Link can only shoot downwards). Could be pretty useful somewhere.

Heres a way to skip having to climb back up the vines once you break the web in the deku tree. Should save a few seconds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1-uwZ-rLnk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1-uwZ-rLnk)

Here's a setup to entering Jabu without a fish with pause buffers. It's pretty annoying how random the trick seems

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pc7G7ncxpQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pc7G7ncxpQ)

If we do a good angle, we can make a faster Double Magic Early by doing an ESS from a Megaflip

'll make  video

EDIT: I got the kakariko roof heart piece by clipping in an acute agle then going on the fence, is t new?

Few days ago I found this actor cloning glitch on my own and thought it was new glitch. But there was video about it on youtube already. Maybe you guys know it too. I also noticed that peoples tried to clone heart pieces with this. And they didn't succeed it. I tried it too and spent much time to it and guess what! I finally got it to work!! Maybe this will open some new glitches or something. And now we can have even more hearts in oot than 23 hearts what is got with RBA. Video about it is also on my channel.

Here is that actor cloning glitch what I found:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnCidMjLW1g

Here is heart piece duplication glitch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ3dUVJMGvM

More videos coming soon.
Have fun! ^_^

Don;t know how I did it but look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuSXO0SD0fk

Acryte come here and solve Zelda stuff!

360° Bombhover

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJqXSgeNaOI
finally this trick has a video

Yo good shit cos. Also yea getting in crawlspace is semi new. Adult in crawlspace is pretty old, plus you can sidehop and actually get out of one and you can scoot around from side to side too but actually having it go into the crawling mode is new though. Haven't seen that before so good stuff. Now if we could just skip nabooru ...

I played around with a speed hack and you can crawl through the crawlspace behind Nabooru. so maybe if we got alot of speed from an armos or something we can skip her.

Bottom of the Well Early, no cuccos or items (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdOb6A3tqZo)

^ :( I read that as "Bottom of the Well Chus Early"

Anyways, that method is pretty old.

Deku Tree as adult using a Hoverslide Clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXomzhGdPrM



Have fun ZFG  :)

Moonwalking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-FxW7tiexk

There's a frame in ToT where you can start playing ocarina where both rooms are loaded at the same time, as in like 2 different rays of light on the pedestal along with those weird stretched walls, but also the normal back wall there too.

---

I was in hyrule field and I did the Bottle Cam glitch (Stop Time in MM) and I have deku stick on B as adult link. I had ocarina on c left and the bottle with bugs on C-down. I was messing around and while in Bottle Cam mode I somehow got link to PUT THE BOTTLE UP TO HIS MOUTH AS IF IT WAS AN OCARINA :o for a second like some sort of OI, but then he quick put it back down. After this, the game was "soft-frozen" — link would not move. time still flowed. It was like I canceled ocarina playing or something... using a bottle, while in stop time mode?

I spent another 20 minutes trying to do it again without luck.

Double magic early (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3ddJIx9eT4) I know it is old

Hole Glitch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZysJ3Wx2NxA) Super old  ;D

Megaflipslide (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcum4kOSDP4) new???

Fire Arrows Early (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QG2IoWHn3Y) Just put it because I did not see a video, but no credits

Kakariko Roof HP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTx9LAuh2Ow)

I want you to proof it

It's now possible to skip the bean and the hookshot. The only downside is that it's TAS only and even then it's hard. No video evidence but I'm sure they'll be in the next 2-3 days. The only way to theoretically improve the route now is to get the odd mushroom in the Fortress which isn't possible.

EDIT: video up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-99yJH7oz4

In before MP16 and pokey post a video of that non-tas.

fastest way to get to lake hylia temple and also fastest way to enter water temple:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ls31-3ezfs

I'm working on it, almost got it I think.

FINALLY found Light Arrow skip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVEm8h6ruw0). New low% route gets 11 items.

Nice  ;D

I cant' believe nobody noticed that before.

its cause nobody thought ganondorf would lose to simple deku nuts

on a more serious note, if we can get child link to fall faster for 1 frame, or bypass the ejection routine for 1 frame we would have BOTW chus w/o ZL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IDB4695FD8

:(

I have an idea:

Why not kill the Skulltula, then use the "Walk while talking" glitch with Navi and the crawlspace and make your way to the other crawlspace. The water might not be loaded...

i like the idea

Navi doesn't talk to you when you're inside.

Perhaps the Ruto Bottle or something similar would work as a substitute for Navi?

Ruto bottle is an item and items can't be used right after exiting a crawlspace unless of course you activate some text.

that reminds of how in MM as Zora Link if you jumpslash against a wall and hold B, you go through the entire wall for exactly 1 frame, so you can't do anything to stay in before you get ejected out.

newest theory: GRAB THIS PLANK AND WE'RE GOLD!
(http://zeldaspeedruns.com/junk/newbotwchus.gif)

hmm thats gonna be tough to do i dont even have an idea

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-8jdPmAGPU

And there you have it. Zelda and her shitty lullaby can go to hell.

I strongly agree.

That is some awesome stuff you guys have there! Great job with this Klydestorm!! I can't really wait to try this out! This door thing happened me once long time ago but didn't know it could lead something like this ;D

Awesome stuff with this klyde! Keep up to good work!

That's pretty amazing.

What does this actually change on the route though, if anything?  I need to pay more attention to that sort of stuff >_>

not sure if the TAS any% route will change, but basically every other route likely will

the any%ss route is now amazing and cool

Cloned 97 heart pieces on console:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwnYBw8CKo8

Have fun! ^_^

This is amazing.

Also some stuff from me:

A few days ago I was testing the new any% SS route.  After failing the chuslide to Shadow about a million times, I just started goofing off in the graveyard.  I picked up the rock, started to catch some bugs with the cucco bottle, but did the "quick bottle" trick to dupe over my Deku Nuts (I had 0).  After that, I tried doing the milk drinking from an empty bottle trick.  Link did the drinking animation but he never gained any hearts back.  I even tried moving the bugs to a different bottle (I also duped over Deku Sticks so I had 3 bottles), but no matter how I arranged it he didn't gain hearts.  Another oddity was whenever I was in the air, I could hit the C button for the bugs bottle and the empty bottle in my hand would turn blue (full)... but only until I hit the ground.  Once I hit the ground it looked empty again.

And not sure if this is old or not, but I managed to make it over the Gerudo Valley gate (the Cucco Jump one) with a chu megaflip a couple times today.  Tried to record it but I only made it those 2 times (out of nearly 150 attempts), so no video.

I have never seen the fascination with 100% speedruns, especially in OoT. I mean, a good speedrun couldn't be more fun, considering that you don't have to do any adult/child temples--no damn water temple  ;D--. It seems like BA & RBA have solved all the big problems of making a good OoT speedrun thanks to Kazooie. I completed my RBA speedrun of the game last year & it went very smoothly. If it's any help, RBAing the poacher's saw gives zelda's lullaby, along with some other warp songs, which is the only way, so far, to get great fairy upgrades. :)

If everyone just did RBA runs around here we'd all go insane from boredom. It's a very bare-minimum way to play OoT and lacks what is best about OoT, dungeons. I like RBA a lot but I could never just soley focus on it, which is why we have races and IL's with odd goals and stuff so we can experience every scenario in the game. 100% and MST rocks!

I respect what you're saying here, yes, OoT does have some awesome dungeons. I don't soley focus on RBA, but it's a big part of my experiments. I'm not the best speedruner in the world, but I'm certainly not the worst. I leave IL & those type of runs to people like Kazooie, though I do have a fascination with running the Stone Tower Temple in MM. ;D

i say go for it we need more ppl running in MM

Thanks for the support. :)

Back-forward ESS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQnS0K7TMQo) Whith only damage, no more gound jump storing, is it new???

STAT1CS vid

yes chimpas, that's the nayru's love method of hess in oot, it's been known for a long time ;)

? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmIu67lImNU)

hey guys, I just found I way to do a Ground Jump and ISG at the same time, video will come soon but this is the description:
1.Drop a bomb or step in front of a grabable object (you need a push that way)
2.Hold R AND KEEP IT
3.Take your sword and stab
4.Press A to trigger ISG
5.Just before Link puts the sword away hold L/Z and wait the bomb to explode (or to be pushed away from the object you pulled out the ISG)

Link will keep his shield against the object but still on his knee, just afgter he is pushed step on his feet, and that's all, you triggered an ISG and a ground jump, but you coan keep the ISG as long as you don´t ground jump, because the ISG will go with it, I hope it's new  ;D

Read the first 7 posts on page 4.

runner let him have his moment

This happens to me a lot by accident.

I guess I should write about this in here as well as IRC.

Awhile ago, my friend (Lazybutt) was doing a RBA playthrough of OoT. When going through the mountain to Kakariko he was jumping down this cliff: (http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g124/Tomtelala/untitled-1.jpg)

Instead of falling down, he angled it a bit to the left so he landed on the seam. The effect of this was that he got a huge boost backwards until he hit the wall. He didn't do a jumpslash or anything, only rolling off the cliff (Possibly running, but I doubt that).

How was this done?


The second thing was done on Majora's Mask, but I'll just write it here instead as it should probably be the same in both.
I tried to learn how to bomb hover, so I picked up a bomb, put it down in the ground, crouch stab and was going to pick it up and shield drop it. Instead, I stabbed and did a backflip, but I still got ISG somehow. I never got hit by anything and I never picked up the bomb. First I thought that I did just that it didn't see notice it, but I had my sword out all the time
My thought was that you could get ISG by cancelling the stab using a backflip. I'm going to try to replicate it today, while recording, but as I'm a huge noob when it comes to this game, I'll probably not succeed.

1) What does that screenshot have to do with RBA? (lol)

2) It seems like you grabbed the bomb and did a shield drop backflip before you lifted it over your head. Considering you were trying to pick it up and shield drop anyway.

1) Nothing at all. The picture was just taken from a YouTube video :P.

2) If I did pick it up, I wouldn't have the sword out afterwards.

I found out you can backflip over the Navi text at the entrance of SFM.  Useful if you don't have bombs to store a GJ or something.

That is old maxx. I used that trick on my speedrun long time ago. And yes it's usefull trick indeed!
Still great job for finding it!

New, easier method for staircase:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvANR_d7wS8

Low% 15 items confirmed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko1QhImXhY8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfuHkpegIak
by Valientlink

also pause buffer dat clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az_UCJDfoYk

I had a video of that Tompa. It's been on my account for like forever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX5tYMz2sfk

Hey dudes I got screwed in a race with this glitch what up: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/6899142/highlight/73204 (http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/6899142/highlight/73204)

The sword icon is in the inventory but I cannot equip it. I bought the Giant's Knife and it became equippable(as the Biggoron Sword).

ah yeah, i had that happen to me once. i did the same thing, just bought the giants knife and everything was good again

Klyde found out it happens when you swing sword on the 1st possible frame after you close the textbox

Ringrush requested in the IRC that someone find a way to skip the cutscene for ZL. You can't skip talking to Zelda, but you can skip talking to Impa. I came up with a consistent method using Bombs.
Stand in this position; it's in a space between two bushes (The positioning doesn't need to be exact, but it should be close to what you see in the picture):
(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3052/legendofzeldatheocarina.jpg)
Now use C-up and align your view like this; the point of the Kokiri Sword should be aligned with the break in the texture, exactly like DoT Skip:
(http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/1925/legendofzeldatheocarinad.jpg)
Now sidehop, drop a bomb, and turn towards Impa. You have to run forward at just the right time to kill yourself as you step over the trigger. If you're going to pause buffer dat sheeit, here's the frame to use; once you see this, run forward (this is the first frame that the bomb expands in size):
(http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/1925/legendofzeldatheocarinad.jpg)
Once you die, you respawn at Zelda with the Lullaby in your inventory. If you talk to Impa, she says one thing and then spawns you in Hyrule Field instantly as if you had watched the whole cutscene; this saves about two and a half minutes. Right now, I can only get this trick consistent with Bombs, but I hope to find a Bombchu method, and some TASer will probably find a way to do this with the bomb that the guard throws when you shoot the window.

Edit: I just did the glitch with Bombchus. I'll come up with a pause buffer method later, but basically, you get the same positioning as with a Bomb; take a chu out, and then run towards Impa right when it's about to explode over your head.

I messed with it a bit and found I can get it consistently with a backflip shield drop bombchu.

is there a vid of the cutscene skip anywhere?

There is now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzGnxczT_5A

I think I found better way to do this stuff. Or it depends do you think is this easier than your method :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03z8ypDW2d4

Ok so... In a race earlier today, I went and got blue fire from Ice Cavern and savewarped back to Temple of Time. I went back to Zora's Domain to get Zora Tunic and King Zora wasn't frozen. I still had blue fire in my inventory so I obviously didn't use it. He jusst said "I'm alive yada yada take this dress." Any ideas why?

I have researched this matter thoroughly, and concluded that the only possible way this could have come to pass is via gameshark codes. :P

I swear that has happened to me too. Can't remember if it was during a race or not, but I remember thinking, I had planned to unfreeze him and when I went to see him he was already unfrozen and I had an extra blue fire.

Ok so...in a race earlier today, I hit the Goron rolling around with a bomb flower to get Goron Tunic. He only said one box of text (I forget what it was) and when he sat up, I wasn't able to speak to him. The action would not appear on the A button. I tried backing away so he would curl up, then talking to him again and it didn't work. I had to leave Goron City and come back, then blow him up again to get him to talk to me.

I've seen that happen to Pokey and Runnerguy in races.

Skip King Zora with a buffered chu megasidehop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb4mZNN7xII)

Not huge, but could come in handy in races where getting bombs as an adult would save time and you need something in the fountain.

easy minuet skip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHvcSMdyKrU

easy bolero skip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4fW_PoiBHw

glitch heart icons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQZ8lCgBElA

100% Chu'd Shadow Pillar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L1nJiVc7H4

Disclaimer: Only works if you have first Magic Meter, unlike ZFG.


Edit: Here's a version for ZFG's MST SS route.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prgacjOA5hY

ZFG% Shadow chu pillar no magic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhcCdtZd-Bk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoZ6oIXZ2ZE

contortion hovering
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMPPDWLgozs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgSTPQ2MtNQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gDdYQS5N6E&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InKDlzW-v5o

angled backflip hovering
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XedazRu7_s4

child megasidehop buffer (chus)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeRcb3feC_8

useless shit:
shieldclimb hover (oldies) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_pRNX2A8Hg
minislide http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYDwTutnecY
gossip text delay http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1yEmFXCizA

MST and 100%
Easy way to perform the Lost Woods Mido Skip (useful for races too).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w24W3y258Aw

How is this new?

It isn't :/...  I tried getting the skip to work in the past but I always end up talking to Mido so I made 2 methods that made the skip easier.

Bottom of the Well Early From the Roof #1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3pqv6VV5aw) and #2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLqRBi68aJM), also with a megaflip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x9w_Dn5QG4)

I have done some more testing with contortion hover and straight backflip hover and have found some more interesting results. Here is a video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLz5MfGhiYk

Infinite superswim (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RetnnF85qK4).  Only use so far is a 10-15 sec timesaver in MST going from fire arrows to the shore, but it looks damn awesome.

Ok I tested actor cloning on N64 and ended up with results that did not surprise me at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqg7x59IAHk

I'll test to see what the limit before it crashes is later. ::)

just to say that i didnt found the invisible ocarina use. Well i learned how to do:

- get a bottle with bugs/fish on B button
- have slingshoot/hookshoot/bombs/bombchus?/bow
- drop bugs/fish
- get bugs/fish
- with the bottle in the hand, make back flip. Before touch the ground, press B and the C button with the items sayed abobe. Instead of drop bugs you will play a invisible ocarina. This glitch apears on 58:25 speedrun 2 times. He has ocarina, but uses this cheat while he RBA to avoid pause.

That is called the Ocarina Items glitch.

I just tested actor cloning again with the skull kid in LW and it turns out you can clone 30 skullkids before the game crashes when you look at them. Seems to me like 30 is the max amount of actors the game can have loaded onscreen at the same time (the 31st one is the 30th clone that crashed the game).

Of course, there may be more actors than just the skull kid which means that the limit would be much higher.

ING-X, i think, it depends of the actor. For example, in guard house, there are a lot of jars and the game doesnt lag anything. Instead, skull kid has animation and more polygons, so, alot of them lags.

There is a way to duplicate skulltulas/heart piezes with actor cloning? or there arent any map to do? i have sacred forest meadow in mind, but probably dont work. The glitch is only for lost wood roms

I think it might actually have to do with the room itself - I'm pretty sure the actor cloning glitch actually clones the entire room every time you do it, so that might be why it causes lag/crashing while the guard house for example doesn't.

I'm pretty sure you can't reload rooms for heart piece duplicitation in OoT. Although I may be wrong because it works in MM

everytime i do room duplication on MM the game crash... but in emulator works

Are you playing on N64?  N64 MM can't handle room duplication very well.

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Wrong thread you butts >:0

idk if anyone knows this but just for kicks, and thats the only reason i can think of that you would do this, you can infinite sword glitch with the hammer

so it makes 360 bomb hovering (ISGw/hammer+ Down A+ Bomb hovering) possible, but after you have beaten the game

Zora Tunic no bottle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOn2yE2-2_8

I think, this is discovered, the free zora tunic thing. Only happens on v1.0

I found a glitch, but i dont known how to do very exactly: Using hookshoot while walking normally (uh?). You are walking and the laser stays on the floor. If you touch the hookshoot c button, it will shoot in the floor and then, it acts normally. Isnt usefull so...

yeah nokaubure, thats been discovered

Yeah, you can do this by aiming the hooskhot, sidehopping, then shielding in mid-air I believe.

Small timesaver in adult DC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17EEQQv5tSs

Rod Levitation/Grab Glitch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkzcztnvf9M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js0399IRJ_o

Fire Temple BK skip in 3 explosives.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYH9JHiOm6Q

Steal the rod pause buffered for those who hate trying to do this in real time

steal the rod in real life is easy, just get the proper distance and mash the B, or activate turbo

Actually, stealing the rod in real life is quite difficult, as it is hard to hide the rod as you walk out of the fishing store. Furthermore, rods will often have magnetic bar codes that trigger an alarm if you try to leave without paying for them.

Mirror shield ledge SB w/o bean/chus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sx2qr_tewA

Probably useful for some kind of segd run, still too hard for SS =[.

Faster and easier way to get to the top ledge in forest temple block room w/o strength http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izGS4FDI9as

Fire temple trick for 100% to get to the top of the maze faster from the block/crystal switch fire room before the maze room http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4CzXmblMvY

Here is new oot trick for races! Discovered by Librari and me.
Have fun!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxtTyDRhkyM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxtTyDRhkyM)

kazooie that is amazing. this is useful for races AND for zfg's run! :D

Can you just slash the crystal switch before hand or must you waste the bomb? Or can you avoid it completely?

Either way, although it requires an extra bomb, that looks faster than ZFG's method, because you don't have to pause to equip/deequip hover boots and equip/deequip BGS (we need MS for flare dancer).

You can just slash the crystal. I don't think you can avoid it outright, because every time I try to do so, I end up in the unloaded lava room.

Speaking of which, I managed to escape the unloaded lava room once by falling into a void, but I have no idea how I did it. When I tried to find the entrance to the void again, it seemed as if all of the walls were solid.

awesome. spent an hr mastering this. very cool trick.

Contortion hover to WT Boss door room:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvLAuZPHFM8

Advancing the OoT Meta game 1 Contortion hover at a time.

Just use this angle and you should be okay. ;)

Easy way to clip into the Zora Fountain Iceberg that contains the JJB warp:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS5Iz2WNRg8

As far as I can tell, to trigger the JJB warp you have to actually touch the underside of the iceberg where the warp is.

I always think that the warp is part of the jabu jabu actor, so, if there arent jabujabu, there arent warp. I need to check this in the debug room, or editing the map and see if there are a warp

block clipping

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHW8JBhIocc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWp442XMz8M

seems to work on every left wall w/ block on the right (forming 90 degree angle)... probably on right side too but need to find a new setup I think.

needs large blocks apparently? (goron bracelet required blocks) --- I think the DC one is a fluke because I am inside of it already, the pressure exerted is enough to get me through the wall while doing it at 90 degree angle wont. note how I went thru 2 solid walls in the DC example.

cant think of good uses



more ideas:

cutscene clipping thru walls using JS

it happens both in Kakariko (failed botw cucco dive to go OoB) and fire temple (same room as the block clip, JS the crystal switch)

I believe you can go thru every tall wall with a JS using a cutscene but I can't get it working.




also: a way to practice Z sliding on console: climb ladders and press Z every 6 frames, if successful the camera is stuck while climbing.

Dude... we KNOW there's a warp. You can touch the warp easily with a levitation code. The warp is right below the underside of the iceberg, basically directly below where Jabu's mouth was.

I found a promising new spot to try to get into JJB as adult. You can get to this spot using OOB water. Link is on a slop where he can use items and even drop bombs/chus (they get dropped on the ground above Link but you can still megaflip/mega-sidehop off of them). You can also sidehop at the iceberg. You can even use hoverboots to walk at the iceberg if you place a bomb behind Link and equip hoverboots at the first frame of damage to Link (the setup is the same as megajumping but it just makes you start to hover-walk). Also keep in mind you can lure the tektite by the Fairy Fountain entrance to this area.

I've tried doing a gainer/jumpslash right against the iceberg from this spot but I haven't yet been able to touch the warp, it definitely seems to be inside the iceberg only. Maybe with a TASed Biggoron clip while hover-boot hovering would work.

(http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/1716/ddddfe.png)



Here's a Project 64 savestate that is at the spot in the picture: http://www.mediafire.com/?0rqe4a6fiqjsu08


Here's a video of my best attempt at touching the warp: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v72u7F94hIw

New damage boosting technique - hold a chu, stand a bit away from the edge, run off the edge when it starts rapid flashing and mash B in the air.  Uses so far:

Shadow early no shield http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV8ojjEjpww

Talon Skip damage boost method 100% no buffer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpDUU2EctfU

You can use this for distance too, like damage boosting in jabu to the blue switch, by running off the edge slightly earlier.  I haven't been able to do this kind of damage boost with a bomb yet.

Also, I find this kind of damage boosting to be much easier than the old R + B method, and I think in some cases it goes slightly farther.

Okay guys, time for some jabu jabu early theories as adult. I have tried it some off and it might work with right angle and more precision angle. I will make video of this if I get it to work. I can't do it now or even take pictures because I'm not at home right now. I'll test this even more when I get home.

So basically when you come to iceberg from normal side. So from side where you enter to jabu jabu. Then in jabu pedestal and where iceberg start go right! There is great acute angle what comes from iceberg and jabu pedestal. I'm pretty sure we can clip some how in here and make link head to touch load point same time when he goes trough of ice. So my first idea was somehow to hoverslide to the acute angle and clip trough and make link head touch load point. Only problem here is hover boots hover doesn't stay that long if you hammer hoverslide there from near surface there.

Second idea was do bomb hover near of that acute angle and then megalip with chus to acute angle and go trough that way. So basically just backflip with right time with bomb from iceberg. Do backflip that way that jabu pedestal pillar stop your backflip and you will get yourself near water level. I have tried it when link boots are halfway in on water. Then use chus Z-target and turn around and aling yourself along with pillar or whatever you want. Then just right time make chu run to side of pillar and when it explode make megalfip. I have got it to work few times but still link haven't go trough of that corner. I don't know if this is possible but it still sounds promising I think. If I can think way get to the jabu as adult it should be this one.

So go try it and see yourself if you can get it to work. I hope this will turn out great!

I will take pictures or make video later if I can get it to work.

I tried a bit of your first idea myself (hoverboots + biggy sword clip into that corner) but couldn't manage it.

Jiano told me that you can clip into the iceberg by megasidehopping into the right-side corner of the isceberg from the hill, so your second idea should work I think.

I need help learning to bomb hover. Now i recently beat mm, learning nearly all the tricks, so i almost perfected all 3 normal bomb hover methods in mm(besides chu hover against a wall). But i cant hover in oot. I have trieusing the page but it doesnt work. Could somebody help explain the differences between bomb/chu hovering in oot/64 as that would help me learn to hover.

Thanks

Wrong Thread.

Next time post that here: http://forums.zeldaspeedruns.com/index.php?topic=26.msg7198#msg7198

I have also tried it but didn't get it to work either. I also tried that mega sidehop thing but my angle was wrong for sure because link didn't clip in the iceberg. I'll try this more tonight and I'm pretty sure this will work out!

EDIT:
It's been finally done!!! I got this to work with mega sidehop! Now jabu as adult is indeed possible without cheats! I will make video later when I get this down on console!

Here is picture what angle I use:
(http://i37.tinypic.com/1z32hvt.jpg)

From here when I get chu out I'll walk straight up a little bit and then shield drop chu along pillar. When I have released it then just let analog stick go and then roll on right time and perform mega sidehop to left! It you go right you will be pushed trough ice and with backflip you will be pushed up. I got to this position with bomb hover along to pillar. It's easy get to the this spot.

Anyway I will make video of this later when I can do this on console.

Use this spot to drop bombchu along with pillar. Then just roll when analog stick is free and link have returned to normal position like in picture above.
(http://i35.tinypic.com/6i9nag.jpg)

This is should look like when link is about to touch loading zone
(http://i37.tinypic.com/140dmja.jpg)

EDIT:
I think it also possible to beat this dungeon with boomerang on B button as adult and also this add more complete stuff to max adult challenge! What is great challenge btw and everyone should try it out!

EDIT:
You can beat barinade boomerang on B button and then for last phase use jars on room to damage him. That is all what you need to kill him. on last hit you may use your sword. So finally all three child dungeons can be beaten as a adult! :D

Awesome, now all we need is to find some wacky ass way to talk to Impa as adult for zelda's lullaby and max% adult is gg :P

kazooie = god

Awesome Kazooie. I KNEW this could be done.

Can't wait for a vid of it Kazooie! ;D
Also. Don't think it's new, but you can clip through the latters in DC to get OoB. It's basically the same thing as in ZD. Worthless for now. I don't think it really needs a vid, but tell me if it does.

Found a way to skip Mido and go to Deku Tree without a shield: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1FHOAZblHg
Useless because you need shield for 2 3 1 room :(

Wow, nice.  I've tried getting that OoB with a jumpslash recoil before but it never worked.  Cool trick.

Jabu Jabu as adult!

Video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug7jKLV0MqU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug7jKLV0MqU)

Description:
So I discovered this little neat trick what lets you enter to jabu jabu as adult link. And finally I got video of it! I spent more than 8 hours to trying figure out how to make it work well and where to use pause buffer and I used tons of different strategies. So here is what I have got so far! First bomb timing is hard to time correctly and there is maybe way to pause buffer chu hover there but I tried it alot and didn't come up with any good way to do it. Problem is that link needs to hover very low compared to the ledge where you start hover.  Last part of this video is good I think. This was best strategy what I came up with I think. With practice you can get this with very good change to get there. I highly recommend to use emu for practice and you know what I mean. Use save states! And I highly recommend to practice pause buffer chu megaflip before attempting this one.

Here is step by step instruction how to do it:
1:First active ISG when you come up from water! I recommend to save on ice cavern and then jump to the water from there. You need to keep camera close to link or else last part will be very hard! When you come to land with ISG on use Z target to keep camera close to link. You will notice if you camera is far away from link when it will go trough of that pillar and it have different effects than on video.

2: Keep Z targeting while moving and then aim yourself on little corner that come from iceberg edge and from little rail from jabu pedestal. You can just walk there and link should not move any more forward. So you are on corretc spot then.

3: Then use C-up to aim left side of your B button with pillar textures. Watch it from video! Use that black texture to line left side of B button to it

4: When you have lined up keep your Z target pushed down and then press A example to come out of that view. Then just turn around 180 degrees and backwalk little bit to make sure you are on edge of the iceberg.

5: Then perform little roll forward without pressing controls stick at all! Link will always do same distance roll when you do it this way.

6: Then bring out bomb and shield drop bomb and then do backflip immediately after dropping it. Practice timing from video or with emu.

7: Link should now stay on air near water level if you timed it correctly. NOTE: LINK BOOTS NEED TO UNDER WATER TO GET THIS TO WORK!!! If you are little bit more up than this it will not work!!!you can check it when camera will fall back little bit after you have used hookshot view and roll.

8: Now let chu run at wall and X target it and now after it turn about 180 degrees and aling yourself along with pillar. If you have right position link should automatically aling himself with pillar if all is done correctly.

9: Now let another chu run at wall and release it immediately after taking it out. Then keep targeting it all to way when it explodes and do not let go of Z before it have exploded. Now you should have right camera angle.

10: Now wait for camera to under water. In this spot if you have camera too far away from link. camera will go other side of iceberg and you cannot see anything! So remember to keep camera close to link before doing this! If you cannot get it there anymore press reset or come from ice cavern again and swim to iceberg and active ISG and then just use Z target to keep camera close of link.

11: When camera have stopped. Press control stick little bit left and only left to make sideroll, not sidehop. If you do sidehop you pressed way too much! Only press that much when link will make little move and stop breathing animation. I show it to you in video.

12: Bring out chu and calculate it to 7 flash. After seventh flash pause buffer three frames forward and you should have same color chu than on video. I skipped one frame from it on video.

13: On 7,3/5 flash release chu with shield and continue to use pause buffer after that. Still keep that control stick on that position what I mentioned above. of course you can place stick on it's place now too if you want.

14: From this point calculate about 8 frames about chu running at wall. It's easiest to calculate when chu is on leftmost corner of pillar (green navi arrow keep looking that) After it calculate three frames when chu is running other side of the pillar. Green arrow should touch screen down frame little bit like in video.

15: On that point perform sideroll and do all stuff what you need to do to make normal chu megaflip. Remember to keep your shield up all the time when doing sideways roll. When link is about to taking out his shield and he is on limbo mode unpause game and press R, Z, A and place control stick to down left corner to perform megasidehop. If all went correctly you should not take damage from chu and you should get inside of jabu jabu as adult.

If you take damage you should make sidehop frame earlier or you did something else wrong. if you just sidehop and hover more you did it too early. It needs to be frame perfect!

I hope this will turn out great glitch and I'm very happy to finding something so cool like this! I'm proud of myself and for that too when I got this shit on video!!! It was pain in the ass! You can beat barinade on boomerang on B button with BA or and use jars on that room to damage last phase of barinade or use megaton hammer ISG to damage him. You need to active ISG from hammer before swinging it or else it doesn't work. There is videos on youtube about this. There is maybe better way to do this on future!

Have fun!!! Also we now have more stuff to do in Max% adult challenge! ^_^

kazooie i love you

So is the boomerang really necessary to beat the boss or could something of adault link work too? Like fire/ice arrows or hookshot.

hey guys i discovered a new way to HESS but it requires nayrus lover to do it you have to ESS of a megaflip so yo go very slow than while nayrus love is still up take out a bomb or chu (bombs are easier btw). about 1/3 to half the time the bomb is gonna explode drop the bomb and stay sheilding if done correctly you will do a HESS.

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc3MeAv-mCo
EDIT EDIT: Never mind this post as the trick is old

Yes boomerang is the only item that can stun Barinade.

I cant get the clonning glitch on VC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZsWUR7-kiE

I think I discovered something new...

I was screwing around with this cheat I discovered that overwrites what the next area to load would be when I ended up in the Water Temple. I was Young Link at the time, and I swam up to the center part of the  level. As I was climbing I noticed a Tektite was approaching so I quick held down on shield so to block the attack, and I just narrowly avoided damage. But then I noticed that the camera sort of locked up and wasn't following me like normal, almost as if I had activated ISG. However I accidentally ran off the edge and fell into the water, which de-activated it.

I'm not entirely sure if I targeted the Tektite or not......

I'm on the verge of being able to Z-slide on a console. Another trick proven possible on a console. :)

Probably old but you can go up waterfalls which have a wall behind them by using jumpslashes. Pointless anyways.

Video or I don't believe it.

I'm sure this is already known, but during a run today I went to play the scarecrow's song and after playing it link just stood in the playing the ocarina animation. However, the last note was never recorded as played, but the song was. Completely ruined my run...

Yes, this has happened to both Jiano and me in races. Really sucks. I do not know the cause, but when you first pick the notes it seems to help to hit the buttons a bit more slowly.

Easy method for Serenade Cutscene Skip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR0loZ5AgIA)

I guess that might be appicable to the Silver Gauntlets.

I'm not sure if this is the right thread to put this in, but I thought it would be kind of fun to share. A friend of mine (he's able to do cucco jump at gerudo) and me are basically going through and seeing how much you can collect as a kid (before collecting Master Sword for the first time) using glitches and stuff. So far tonight we've been able to get a number of things, and we were just having fun with the game using the different hovering glitches with bombs and such.

Normal stuff you can do without glitches - 45 skulltulas (including dodongo one)
          11 1/4 hearts (3 container, 21 pieces)
               giant wallet, all expansions, stone of agony
               mask of truth, 8 out of 10 beans planted
               all spiritual stones and dungeon items

early well -   lens of truth
(cucco dive)   3 skulltulas
               all other items

Early gerudo stuff (got the Cucco jump after like...50 tries, lol)- got gerudo membership
               mushroom in chest (13 bombchus + megaflip) (the mushroom surprised us greatly, we thought there was a heart piece there)
               heart piece on ledge above cell (16 bombchus from chest)
               skulltula in wasteland
               skulltula in dirt patch
               nayru's love
               heart piece on arch (megaflip from gauntlet ledge/hand)
               all temple items except boss key
               all five spirit temple skulltulas

Lake hylia -   heart piece on roof (19 bombchus, from small
               bridge of land)

Early fire -   skulltula in dirt patch (still trying to figure out how to get into the temple without levitate or crooked cartridge)


Early forest - 3 skulltulas so far
               map (megaflip in box room for sequence breaking)

I know this doesn't really...help with anything, but for two rookies at this, we were infinitely pleased with ourselves. And this was all in one night, we're doing more later on. XD

That is called the "Max% Child" challenge, and it is well documented what you can and cannot get. However, I don't see it posted anywhere on ZSR...

Someone should post the full list, preferably with asterisks over things that require RBA.

That's called Max% Child. Just so you know, the only medallion you can get is Water. Forest/Shadow both crash if you enter the blue warp, and you cannot beat Fire/Spirit.

God damnit Ringrush posted like a milisecond before I did.

The only things you RBA are the Goron and Zora Tunic I'm pretty sure. Oh and broken giant's knife.

Have fun getting the Longshot. It's the dumbest shit ever.

Ah, yah, would be helpful, we're basically figuring out stuff blind on this. XD


You can get into Water Temple as a kid? I thought that would be the one place you couldn't get to. 0_0

Here's a video of it. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LUQKA-385c)

I did this a long time ago.  I can't remember exactly everything I got, but I know I have the list of stuff posted somewhere, probably the old SDA thread.  I remember you could get crazy stuff like 16 hearts I think, all dungeon items, 4 bottles (rba 3rd), zora tunic (rba'd), suns song, and lots of other shit.  Its been a really long time since I did this so it might be possible to get more now.

Well, we want to do all the stuff we can do without RBA we think, so if you can find the list, that would be cool to compare stuff. Still getting used to hovering with the slingshot method, seems to work only half the time, but once we get a rhythm down then we're fine. My favorite move has to be that megaflip thing though.

EDIT: We were actually able to megaflip into the great fairy cave from above in Death Mountain where you get the double magic bar. Was rather awesome. Not sure if that's the most efficient way to do it, but it worked.

Timer Advancing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL53CgilGIw

i also did this a few years ago in the VC version. stuff i missed were a couple of skulltulas, bongo bongo's heart container, both hook and longshots and probably goron tunic since i remember RBAing at least the Zora one and broken goron sword.
it sucks that the method to get hookshot doesn't work on VC and i don't want to redo the whole thing on GC.

I'm new here and been glitching in OoT a little time.
I found a minor glitch recently. If it's old, just tell me. I think it goes like this:
Jumping Link warps to grabbing position on ledge (which is clearly too high away) for maybe 1 frame and immediately falls. Then you right away strike the aerial strike, hit the wall and then game thinks you're on ground and cancels your falling but then starts it again, this let you to strike the aerial strike again and doing this repeatly allows you to climb the wall. Does this appear anywhere else in the game? Here's a video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB7G-6pzDW4
Oh and sorry for bad English, I'm from Finland.

I'm pretty sure that technique to get to the left hill is new. Nice find.

Wow...this is not like ZFG at all...

I want the old ZFG back :(

i lol'd

Very nice glitch ByrZ! I really liked it!

And welcome to glitching oot! I hope you can find some awesome stuff from this game!

EDIT: What!? Are you from Finland? I'm too! We should talk sometimes if you have skype or anything else. You can also come to irc. I really like to talk you more. Niin ja tervetuloa tälle foorumille! Huippua nähdä jotain suomi porukkaakin täällä  ;D

Very nice welcomes here. I've tried to find a way to get to the crawling space with this without succeeding. In the video at 3:30 you can see that ledge in front of me, I'm very close to get onto it. However, I went there with emulator cheats and it didn't lead to anywhere. Kazooie tarkista pm.

im assuming that these are old and useless but i will put them any way
as child link you can switch from deku stick to sword and vice versa when grabbing onto a ledge.
also as child link if you are trying to swim up the water falls what will happen when you get spit out and fall is you will jump slash putting you back in and higher up than you were when you fell out.
they might work in other situations but i haven bothered to test them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh_Pl9Hzw_I

Speed trick for low%.  Getting to mirror shield ledge outside skipping everything inside as child.

Here is new desert trick by me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9NuRYSoNC0

Have fun! ^_^

Think I might have discovered some kind of auto save in OoT. I'll upload a vid soon though it won't show much; it just randomly happened. :)

So the kids at Zelda Universe were right about the game becoming "unwinnable" if you skip getting the longshot and don't save?

uhhh no ? lol

pokey has beat oot while skipping the longshot and not saving...

on another note i was wondering something about the acute angle/dot skip glitch. is this a glitch where we know all the places it can be used (specific type of acute angle or something) or is there a possibility for more acute angle clips to be found.

my reason for asking this is i was considering the possibility of making a bot to brute force this once i learn lua(if that ever happens). what the bot would do is start a savestate in c^ when link is at a possible acute angle, then it would move right x frames,save,execute side roll/hop, have flag to check if link loses hp after x seconds (falling into void causes link to lose hp), load state, repeat. then it could be used to easily check possible angles. i dont think it would take that long to check it (i say this knowing nothing of lua scripting and more importantly if you can use scripts with mupen.

thanks

faster ways to do old things:

dc ground jump http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbtHYbZMN0U
jabu early http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wA1VPaqpHY

ruto throw - optimal setup
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-eq5ov8jB8

Hey cosmo or anyone, could someone of you guys do a 100% consistancy tutorial on how to pause buffer an ISG ? I'm having trouble with it and some help would be appreciate. And yeah it's for lullaby skip in mm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf6R_EqTjUg

Oh thanks, my bad I thought the ISG frame was a frame earlier lol.

Dodongo Cavern cutscene skip (saves 1 second). No idea if people know about this or that it actually saves time...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec92NE66atM

Not useful for much besides a no-glitch run.

I've definitely seen that before, but I never see people using it.

Also, don't say the ng word.

re: why can you JS thru certain boss doors??

[05:26:07] <@cosmo> spirit BK skip im still too scared to do in races lol
[05:26:10] <@cosmo> once I won a race with it
[05:26:12] <@cosmo> but it was scary
[05:26:28] <LinuzDk> wait a minute shadows the only place where you still need ZL right?
[05:26:43] <@cosmo> you can bk skip but it will never happen in a race
[05:26:44] <@cosmo> so yeah
[05:27:01] <LinuzDk> no cosmo just play normally but you have to get a key as a child then just don't get BK since you need zl for that
[05:27:16] <Siglemic> what
[05:27:17] <@cosmo> im talking about shadow
[05:27:29] <LinuzDk> the BK skip have same strats, as water
[05:27:35] <LinuzDk> yeah i know
[05:27:39] <Siglemic> lol
[05:27:40] <LinuzDk> i actually confused myself
[05:27:44] <Siglemic> whattt
[05:28:14] <LinuzDk> isn't shadow temple door that same as fire?
[05:28:53] <@cosmo> Lol no
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[05:29:02] <@cosmo> shadow BK skip takes 50 chus
[05:29:22] <LinuzDk> no but you can't JS into Firetemple door
[05:29:32] <LinuzDk> and neither shadow
[05:30:48] <LinuzDk> my point is the only reason you can do fire BK skip is becouse there is a OOB spot over the door
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[05:32:00] <LinuzDk> Cosmo i'm talking about the physicks of the door (physicks phycisks, baah
[05:32:13] <@cosmo> you're talking about the collision detection
[05:32:19] <@cosmo> and nobody knows why you can js thru them
[05:32:24] <@cosmo> you just can
[05:32:29] <@cosmo> maybe petrie911 will figure it out someday : P
[05:32:34] <LinuzDk> ;D
[05:33:29] <LinuzDk> but you can't JS through shadow Bodd door right?
[05:33:39] <LinuzDk> boss*
[05:33:45] <@cosmo> right
[05:34:33] <%petrie911> figure what out, now?
[05:34:37] <LinuzDk> and i'm pretty sure that you can't either with fire, (maybe not forest never tried since, it dosn't do any diffrence)
[05:34:57] <LinuzDk> petrie why can you JS through some of the Boss doors and some not?
[05:35:04] <%petrie911> doors have no solidity
[05:35:16] <%petrie911> it has to do with the collision geometry near the door
[05:35:28] <@cosmo> right but
[05:35:32] <@cosmo> jiano and I looked at it
[05:35:34] <@cosmo> and couldnt see
[05:35:39] <@cosmo> why you dont recoil back off of some of them
[05:38:21] <%petrie911> 0 0 0 180
[05:38:46] <%petrie911> (I'll explain what that means in a second
[05:39:07] <%petrie911> C80
[05:39:08] <@cosmo> it would be cool if you directly compare water -> shadow Boss doors
[05:39:34] <%petrie911> 300
[05:39:41] <+Tompa> LoZ race anyone?
[05:40:04] <%petrie911> 080
[05:40:20] <%petrie911> er,0 2 0 80
[05:41:13] <%petrie911> 318
[05:41:21] <%petrie911> ok, so which doors can be jumpslashed through
[05:41:24] <%petrie911> and which can't?
[05:41:32] <@cosmo> water, spirit
[05:41:35] <LinuzDk> water and spirit
[05:41:41] <@cosmo> fire, shadow cannot
[05:41:44] <@cosmo> forest is a maybe
[05:41:50] <LinuzDk> noone tryed
[05:41:54] <%petrie911> ok, so the numbers I posted above are the collision flags for each door
[05:42:41] <%petrie911> Forest Temple is 0 0 0 318
[05:42:51] <%petrie911> Fire Temple is 0 2 0 080
[05:42:59] <%petrie911> Water Temple is 0 0 0 180
[05:43:07] <%petrie911> Shadow Temple is 0 0 0 300
[05:43:15] <%petrie911> Spirit Temple is 0 B 0 C80
[05:43:32] <%petrie911> now, it is rather interesting that they're all different
[05:45:37] <%petrie911> Actually...scratch that
[05:45:41] <%petrie911> I think I know the answer
[05:45:59] <%petrie911> and I predict Forest Temple should be impossible if I'm right

[05:52:18] <%petrie911> ok, so, here's the difference
[05:52:28] <%petrie911> in the Forest, Fire, and Water Temples
[05:52:36] <%petrie911> er, Forest, Fire, and Shadow
[05:52:46] <%petrie911> the door and the polygons above it have the same collision
[05:53:06] <%petrie911> in the Water and Spirit Temples, the door and the polygons above it have different collision
[05:53:20] <@cosmo> by different collision, what is different?
[05:53:27] <%petrie911> they have different flags
[05:53:37] <@cosmo> do you know what the flags do
[05:53:39] <%petrie911> and so they belong to different collision groups
[05:53:41] <%petrie911> nope
[05:53:52] <@cosmo> do you think the reason you can js thru it
[05:54:00] <@cosmo> is becuase it treats everything wit hthe same collision group
[05:54:07] <@cosmo> as one solid surface
[05:54:10] <%petrie911> yes
[05:54:15] <@cosmo> ok
[05:54:17] <@cosmo> good stuff
[05:54:21] <@cosmo> imma archive this conversation

Death Mountain gate skip in 4 chus, no buffer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuGnE2v1k-A)

SOLD OUT to the C button as a child:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae4Ai140HOA

Have fun! ^_^

Slingshot Room door glitch (unloads the room, hopefully we can do use this method in other rooms in the game):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NesnFRiIIU

Moving platform in Deku Tree that is unaffected by all time stop items (I found this months ago):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqEFkDetyOQ

Alec had an idea for ganon, instead of supersliding to keep the master sword equipped, you can JS before the cutscene and use hammer/bgs crouch stabs with MS power.  I just tested it and it works.  Should save time in 100% and MST, though I think supersliding would still be faster for TASes.

ZFG are you sure equipping the MS in segment 67 is the best time to do so? We still need to fight Dinalfos, Stalfos, IKs, Dorf, and more Stalfos in seg 69. Shouldn't we do the MS/Hammer equip right before the Ganon fight? It is an extra pause that way but I think the biggy will save good time throughout the Tower and Escape. This needs to be timed against the superslide method really (while considering the extra bomb needed)...

Oh, completely forgot about the tower enemies, I was just thinking about dorf.  I guess it probably would be faster for an extra pause :/

i played OoT after almost 1 year without playing it just to try out this glitch (i don't want to replay until OoT 3DS comes out)

i noticed that the trick to use a charged (orange) spin attack with the Great Fairy Sword from MM works here to get a charged spin attack with SOLD OUT. that's pretty interesting.

I'm very curios how to get this. If somebody can link me video how you can do that glitch in MM :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDOrBm1bHKU

Ahah, I didn't remember I posted this vid more than two years ago (long time before z slide was discovered).
 8)

the charge spin attack glitch with the great fairy sword is pretty easy. press and hold B and then use the GFS and it will charge up. Link does the Biggoron Sword pose when charging it.
same trick makes the Sold Out charge up.

Some new OoT stuff to you guys!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N1hMZMoFk4

Have fun!! ^_^

The hyrule field glitch strikes again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9gDddOyL4c

Interesting... do you think using this trick will save time in a 100% run? It looks faster than the normal warp.

hyrule field glitch = too many actors loaded so it simply fails to load the one you are calling

Max hearts on N64 OoT!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHikJck_S6Q
Have fun! ^_^

New Forest Temple boss Key skip from the Fairy bow room on Jan 29.
Unfortunately it is only about 15-20 seconds faster than savewarping and doing the normal bk skip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB-Q54o86ps



NEW Fire Boss key skip from Hammer room on Jan 31.
It obsoletes the chute hover bk skip and is way faster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzc2wqmzp_c

So it almost certainly has to be true... the boss door trigger is always loaded.

loading zones are part of scene collision, which is loaded on a per scene basis (doesnt matter what room you're in)

New Fire Temple Big Key Skip! Faster, easier, and uses less bombs than the old one.

Exodus found this trick on emulator and posted the video in the IRC. It was very very difficult and inconsistent so I spent a couple hours working on a setup. I managed to find a consistent angle setup and a way to skip the jumpslash the original method required to just barely make the load zone (hitting the load zone is no longer an issue).

Full details and instructions are in the video description:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4YQHXaDMDA

Came supprisingly close to doing this with a chu megaflip-slide. Might work nicely for a low%(?)

Even if you clip out of bounds with a chu megaflip/sidehop, without hover boots (which low% mst doesn't have), you probably couldn't reach the loading zone. Worth a try though, as it'd save a ton of time.

If you mean normal low%, no contorted route would ever bring low% to fighting Volvagia.

Trick in DC as adult to get the GS above the stairs without supersliding or longshot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wa3A6Mg5_c .  Should save a lot of time in 100%.

I found 2 strats to climb Death Mountain without explosives­:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-X8iehDWUE

Nice.  1st strat is half old, I don't think it was known you could get on the high ledge without landing on the smaller ledge below first.  Sideroll jumpslash strat is cool but I don't think there would be a reason to use it since you need hover boots to get there anyway (though if its possible to get there without hover boots or explosives, that would be great for any%).

Easy Chu's Mega Hover Strats:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7Xp3Ub-Fhc

Discovered by me. and maybe some guy that discovered it 4 years ago :D

Pretty sure that this is new. Found a way to unload the lower part of zora's river using a mega-sidehop (have not tested a megaflip) at this angle:
(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7695/sriveroob2.png) (http://img38.imageshack.us/i/sriveroob2.png/)

With this you simply clip out of bounds and you can enter some OoB water and float back to the surface. The terrain is all present but simply unloaded:
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/3613/sriveroob1.png) (http://img198.imageshack.us/i/sriveroob1.png/)

Video would be nice to see and awesome trick what you have there! Great job! ^_^

Thanks Kazooie! I finally got the full thing on camera. Video will be up very soon.

Unload Lower Zora's River:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehWqBKzd9v0

Some new glitches I've found recently that I haven't posted:

Dark Fire Temple
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMn90FR9ACE

Spirit Temple-Mirror Room Puzzle Skip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT0iBornIKw

Ice Cavern- Easier way past red ice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJHjfpAcisU

Water Temple- Anti-gravity jumpslash past Spikes on the way to boss key
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFSVNJBmwvY

Fire Temple- Sidehop past Flame Wall (not found by me, found by a Japanese player)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnEIfMZ071M

New Fire Boss Key Skip WITHOUT HOVER BOOTS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk2evOQhxJw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf6cxsVw808
Fire Temple Boss Key Skip
Pretty much the same as Exodus' new one, except it does a z slide instead of a superslide.
This is necessary for Low% MST since it doesn't get Bombs.

Fire Block Clip with Chu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NJm9B2pxwM

I'm probably late to the party, but figured I should post it anyways.

Comparison of the Kokiri guard with and without Zelda's Lullaby.

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1097/with.png
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/6175/withoutu.png

Can that really be enough to cause it to be harder?

Apparently yes.  Though it might just be needing a different angle and it just seems harder because we're not used to it.

It's not harder, just different: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87mwu_A0yxU

My setup for fire bk skip.  Doesn't require frame perfect boots switching and gets to the loading zone a few seconds faster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1qXdbc-f3o

Ok, this has probably already been discovered by someone else, but I found a way to get Bomb Bag early in a 100% Adult run. I found two methods using an angled jump and another with a ground jump. Both require no items so it could also be used in a low%. Though I think we skip bombs in the low%...oh well, here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-pI5WTRSlg

Yeah the first one is already known, not sure about the 2nd though.

Yeah, but how often do you have a strength upgrade going into Dodongo's Cavern?

Well, either from Spirit Temple or with secret gauntlets through RBA (or regular BA, not to sure). The secret gauntlets have the same power as Golden Gaunts so you sould do that. Besides, you could always just do the angled jump.

Two new videos from me if anyone haven't seen those yet :)

King zora skip as a child. Very very easy way!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cog0kVd22uo

Fire Temple firewall room strategy as a child:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2drX30kDFQ

Have fun!

@goldenboy6392 That's probably as old as ISG itself.

Megaflip to waterfall heartpiece in GV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdACuR8gtmI

Easy low wall skip at gerudo's fortress

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohVbQKyPGqM

I couldn't find videos for either of these but I'm pretty sure at least one is old as they're both pretty obvious.

The first is old, but the 2nd is definitely new.  It seems a lot easier than the old damage boost method and should be a bit faster too.  Nice find.

I went back to see if I could cut out 1 chu with either a long hover or megaflip. One hover doesn't make it far enough that I could see when I tried, and when I tried megaflipping I either missed the explosion or got blown off the side. But now I went back again and found this angle to work on the 9th flash, so I'm pretty happy with this trick now.  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d-Dsl5mtyc

Now doable non-GC? Awesome.

New forest boss key skip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKNoSYWgxqw

Ingslide is now useful outside of PAL.

Good shit.

Alternate Deku B1 Web Skip
http://youtu.be/BeHopaJZmB8

Getting on the wall at gerudo's fortress that you megaflip off of for the gate skip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNRV7qtWl4o

It costs a chu but the sidestep method is really annoying

Two Ice Cavern Tricks
http://youtu.be/mQsQz2yIDjI

Hoverboost Door of Time Skip
http://youtu.be/_9j_kr36kOs

Exodus = Kazooie Jr.

Prelude Cutscene Skip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql8eF_JCqcM

Mirror Room without explosives
http://youtu.be/_bXEPQ7I2BM

Spirit Boss Key Skip from Mirror Room
http://youtu.be/XMHVLGbUyt4

Get a Fire Gold Skulltula without Hammer/Hover boots/Giant's Knife
http://youtu.be/xkIAowuvxUU

so im new here, not new to Glitching, i can sub 1:30 in any%, idno if thats actually and acheivement or not, but whatever, i decided that i may aswell join this place make myself actually a legit runner right?

so i was trying out some shit with picking up the mastersword for the first time and then rocking up as an adult with bottle on B... so stealing rod+DoT skip with a deku stick on B is easy enough (took a while to find the angle correctly) and im trying to catch a fish and pickup the sword, (coz theres that 1 frame where u can do shit)
now, if you drop a fish infront of the MS then you cant pick it up while youre in range of the fish, this way to fishy (pun intended) for my liking, why did Nintendo make it so u cant grad the sword when there was a fish in the way? so idno... there are sometimes when you can actually catch the fish + grab sword but i cant get the position consistent enough so that i can test a whole bunch of different methods for pause buffering + grabbing the sword... idno, any1 else got any ideas?

included pic with the deku stick lineup ofr DoT skip, incase you wanted :D

That's strange how you cant pick up the master sword with a fish in the way.  Also nice job doing deku stick DoT skip.

And yes, sub 1:30 is definitely a good time for a beginner, so good job with that too!

Megasidehop Fire Boss Key Skip
http://youtu.be/et04qeKt0dY

Easier Forest Boss Key Skip from Bow room (not frame perfect)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30u01U1FJiI

Easy Ruto Throw Pause Buffer
http://youtu.be/QdZNW6Ak2gg

Not a trick, but woah! Had you ever noticed that? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FquUiAHcNbw

i like how the vid is almost 3 years old.

i guess they made just 1 model for all of them and the gerudo face is for the nabooru fight.

My mind is blown  :o

really I have known about this for ages... didn't think too much of it...

Okay, figured out a setup for fire temple mega sidehop bk skip with a chu:
1. Get into the corner
2. Angle yourself the same as if for the superslide method (like DoT skip)
3. Roll twice
4. Sidehop
5. Backflip
6. Let go of L, then press it again (prevents from any wierd side rolling)
7. Roll once
8. Pull out the chu and do mega sidehop (to the right)
9. Hold Right
10. When the cage room is in the middle of your screen jumpslash and hold forward
Notes: Hoverboots make this a bit easier. The angle is incredibly precise.

I can make a vid of this, if anyone needs it.

Kyoki already made a video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_cOqF2KLoc

Wow. Totally missed that. O_o

Here's a good angle alignment for the backflip Mido skip. Align with the wall and get against Mido, then put the left side of the B button in the center of the third dark tree gap from the right of the concrete thing as shown. It gets me over Mido about 95% of the time and the B button doesn't have to be perfectly centered in the gap, it's pretty forgiving.

(http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/7268/midoalignment.jpg)

dead hand is scary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvV0fTz01fI

Spirit boss key skip for low%

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhWYq1nP1Ro

probably saves enough time to take an extra trip to the fishing pond for more chus

These were found by a guy who watches my streams called staticelectricity. A couple of explosive saving tricks to get the GS in Zora's Fountain:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzMcKZ27TuE - 2 bombs + hover boots required

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZrWE7nl0D8 - Iron Boots required

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO3RLfgoKHc Red Ice skip using crouch stab recoil.

I was meesing around in Master Quest's fire temple and I discovered that you can jumpslash through the firewall of the right side of the big room (the one with lava on the floor, the long broken bridge and moving platforms).
I'll try to take a video of it wednesday.

I found a new method of infinite skulltulas today by dying while hookshotting a token, but for some reason, 90% of the time this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW4QKIObxQA) happens.  I'm not sure how to guarantee the game over screen appearing, but if it does, you'll be able to get the GS again.

since tsa has "confirmed" normal gate skip to be out (via invisible walls supposedly) in oot3ds, we were talking about the idea of using the 0 gravity trick (used to get into gtg) to unload the gate and walk right through. nobody was testing it, and so i decided to load up an emulator real quick and test it. it does work, although i used l to levitate to get there/unload the fortress because i was lazy and on my keyboard. i might make a good video sometime soon if i can get cucco jump, but it might be better for someone else to because i will be using camera footage (my easycap broke, and i wont be getting a dazzle until july)

proof of concept video-http://www.justin.tv/thundrio/b/287596710

That's been known since the anti-gravity was found there.

noone i talked to knew for sure, and it took about 5 minutes using speedup/ltolevitate. i figured id post just in case

Wierd Running Water Sound Glitch in Hyrule Field:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWceursLqgs&feature=channel_video_title

A use for triforce megaflip (not really) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acBvOYfQaDM

So I was playing around in OoT, and found this. Boss fight of Forest Temple, Phantom Ganon. Sorry about bad quality and no sound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doLsnEeYZxk

I'm really hoping I'm the first to find this, I haven't seen or heard of it anywhere.

How to:
When you enter the boss room (glitch or not) hold Z. Then side hop up the stairs, roll through the diagonal and side hop to the center. Side hop back to close gate, and taa-daa! Gate should close, and fight should begin.

I'm going to try this, If it works kudos.

Just be sure to hold Z before you go up the stairs.

This happens if you die to PG once and come back.  Sorry, its not a new trick.

Also, next time please post a new trick in the glitch/trick discovery thread rather than make a new one. 

Edit: merged

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know. Delete the thread? It's not that big of an issue if you do.

I'm just wondering if these were already found.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXg7SjTVePg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02i5xa_coCo

Wrong thread, Delete it or move it, sorry.

Yup, very old tricks. There are many methods of getting double magic early.

Did you know that there were still water under adult kakariko?
I found it while trying adult well via hoverslide.

Yep.

Yes, but its not high enough to get back in bounds.

I found a meaningless clip in Master Quest. Again, sorry about crap quality and no sound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty47X7-2mlA

Not sure if it's been found. It's useless, I just found it while playing around.

Played around with it further, realized you don't have to jump through. Just float to the top.

Go through fire wal in fire temple.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIFO2hUKJBI

Aquaslide from Zora River entrance in Hyrule Field

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSGQVGRPf2E&feature=player_detailpage#t=54s

it hasnt been posted here yet so...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6phDqBUpMpQ

its kinda old though, been known since cosmo/jiano had that drunk race in october where cosmo navi dived off the ledge in the graveyard (apparently)

this is not really a discovery! just i love this trick and didnt know where to show it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c26x0RqwglA&feature=channel_video_title

also if u could subscribe and comment etc...

the new forest escape by swordless link I thought it should be posted...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6phDqBUpMpQ

also its possible as adult :)

Just thought I would drop a video of Double Defence with no bombs or strength upgrade .. just using hover boots.
Probs already well known but thought I'd add a video. If someone with a capture card or something could record this that would be good! cheers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AaH0dcVlLM

So... I was doing a bit of testing to see if Bombslide works on OoT and discovered that it does, but with ESS speed. (so I sorta dubbed it FESS.)

Sorta useless seeing as it doesn't have SS speed though but I'm just glad that I sorta found this on my own. (well I don't think I would've found it if MajoraMIM discovered the Bombslide in the first place though.)

Will post a video soon. (also I hope this wasn't discovered already.)

Sorry dude it's been known for ages. It's what gave MajoraMIM the idea for sliding in OoT 3D.

hyrule field fog glitch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDEbTqf_QAc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDEbTqf_QAc)

I don't know if someone else found this first, but I used the Royal Tombstone to get into the Shadow Temple Early.

Young Link only

Activate ISG off of the Royal Tombstone
Go to the left or right side, and start a staircase hover.
Do a 3 chu hover then backflip.
Align with your back with the fence.
Do a 5 chu hover then backflip.
If done correctly, you should be standing on the fence.

Note: I do realize you need Din's Fire, but it's still something.
Sadly, you need bombs. Only 2 though, but still. And 8 chus. Horrible.

I haven't seen anybody do that but there is a way to do it with just one bombchu/bomb and no din's fire, which can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UGDGE1PGBI&feature=related

I know that way, I was only showing a different and slightly easier way. Less positioning problems. Not much precision needed.

can we expect several set ups for this new B1 skip? :P

Super easy Chu Megaflip FT BK Skip with Hoverboots Setup:
1. Get into corner and align as for SS bk skip
2. Roll five times without touching the control stick
3. Pull out a chu and do a megaflip
4. Pause, equip hoverboots and hold right
5. Do the same as for hoverslide bk skip

Can be done without Hoverboots using four rolls instead of five, but I'm still working out making it consistant.

New Megaflip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sn-TagiALA

Impact point of bomb explosion in more detail:
(http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/6391/newmegaflip1.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/808/newmegaflip1.png/) (http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2282/newmegflip2.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/84/newmegflip2.png/)

Pink Ganon's Castle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQJiEguX77g).

New method of GS dupe but slow and not very reliable http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rESAa82afZc

Graveyard box HP as child with boomerang http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-d-bw3sq8s

so this hasnt been posted here but i thought that it deserves to be:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPKS5-vRsCs&feature=feedu hookshot megajump thingy that Glitches0and0stuff found...

its just hookshot something the sameframe (i think its frame perfect) that a bomb explodes and u die, you then get launched super high into the air if u have a fairy u then recover...

my USb controller is fucked and so is my N64's power supply so i cant try it but somebody commit the use of this to get another, VERY SIMPLE, gerudo valley bridge skip

~kthnxbai

[18:41] <@Cosmo> we had an anti gravity jumpslash that needs toal precision

> anti gravity jumpslash

what is this, never heard of it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXK8ahHdZTE&feature=player_detailpage#t=440s

Here are some of my new videos:

New clip method for right angles (Discovered by MrGrunz)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi4kQiOoXpk

Forest Medallion Cutscene Skip Setup
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCcezMIiPAc

Sidehop Ladder Clip Setups
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKPURVyQAn4

Adult- Get Past Sleepless Waterfall with No Items
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvDcpfVeWMU

That zora's domain entry is awesome Exodus. Great setups in general!

Thanks. :)

Could anyone confirm this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnDUzr4tAQs&NR=1

Also, have someone come up with a way to enter the adult shooting range in kakariko as a child yet?

Dumb out of bounds hovering can get you in there.

It loads the child shooting gallery though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9wF7ZwdV30

probably known but somewhat hard.

also, 2 weird moments:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JsqVGch2Eo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBBn3ZrJ7CI

Hit the last switch in jabu with boomerang without climbing the vines http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkmZgQ8CKmQ

Adult side of spirit as child without any explosives.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZDU3fyjhmA

Float up water temple http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pBA1vkjd2A

From that second vid...
Z+shield until after you hit the ground and it would have cancelled the "OMFG I just fell 10 stories" Link animation lock.

i know but getting the megaflip and the amount of time remaining made me lose my shit and mess up that landing.

anyway, here's another speed trick:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-hVFsuKu3o

more weird stuff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hm_Idwy0xc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gZ-weEVHxM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKMp9dvArAA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYcowHRf1jY

Probably old but I did a backflip bombdrop under the bridge in kokiri forest just outside Saria's house. But the bomb diappeared from my hands and were warped onto the bridge...

I'll upload a vid if you don't get what I mean.

Yep, very old.

New silver block skip, much faster and easier http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ8TrKDtETU

New, easier way to do the chuslide teleport to shadow early.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxntlGqs8Bg

Setup found by sockfolder.

Faster and easier Jabu Jabu Megaflip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-p4C4knFUU


New Easy Sun's Song without lullaby or void hovers
http://youtu.be/6qgO9oeTiMg

New Double Magic Early? Probably already exists, but I don't know since I haven't seen it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWySIA-GpVI

Note: I have done better, without a roll. If you perform it at the full length of your sword. Probably works best with Biggoron Sword.

Nice job finding it yourself but that's been known for at least 3 years. Keep looking!

New way from Adult to Child side of Spirit Temple from front room. It's very easy.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev8uzLeuobg

At least, I hope it's new. I've never seen it done this way.

I have done it that way before in my Max % Adult run after giving up on the other methods.

Here's something I've never seen before
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOogm_keWa0


I'll upload a better vid if it's unknown :)

New to me, but it's always up to ZFG to decide whether it's old or not.

I'm gonna jump the gun on that one and say it's old, in that it sounds like the so called "Rock Armor" glitch.

"Grabbing" something in links chest itself is old, but I've never seen it done with ruto. 

Enter Gerudo Fortress as Child Link without sword or shield:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oWAT4RYKuY
Apparently this makes 14 item low% possible if you don't count deku stick on b towards your item count

This is MrGrunz trick to get up there but instead of using sword and shield, it uses a stick
MrGrunz's video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmPBDBfoSmI

Here's a couple videos:

Superslide Forest Boss Key Skip - No Hover Boots (Maybe GCN only)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ5PZPYI3vI

Speak A and Water Gliding
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPwEo4Gcx2A

Something rather bizarre I discovered today while trying to get a visual idea of how Bottle Adventure works.

It turns out that if there's a blank button on Child Link's B button (used to restore your inventory whenever you go back in time), and you go back in time, everything that Adult Link has equipped (B, C buttons, equipment screen stuff) will be equipped to Child Link. It's sort of like Adult Reset, but as a child

Unfortunately, there is no way to do this normally. Going forward in time with a blank B button will just put the Kokiri Sword on Child B.

Easier Deku Tree Second Web Clip

Not sure if this has been figured out, buuuuuut... there is an easier way to clip the web off of the Deky Baby Megaslide Hop. When you do the sidehop down to B1 and you land on the far platform, if you keep holding Z, then you simply back flip into it (it takes me 2 backflips). The web won't load if you keep pressing Z and you don't move within sight of it. It only loads when the pit becomes visible to the camera; and even then, sometimes it still doesn't load if you keep pressing Z!

What is the use in this? Not sure if it is faster but if you have a crappy controller like mine, I can't walk :(

Again, sorry if someone has figured it out, its just the Deku Tree page hasn't been updated with this :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r_DqSlgzWY

No sword required now. RR are you proud of me? :D

http://www.twitch.tv/pheenoh/b/295986385

Some weird ass thing that happened when i read the navi text of a skulltula while shooting it with the bow.

I tried this and it seems to work with other enemies as well. Really intresting find indeed. I tried it with keeses as well but they don't move when you hit them with your arrow. If you read navi text just right time it seems arrow will hit him but he doesn't die. Skulltula is more intresting because it moves and you can stop it moving with this new trick and you can repeat step again to move him. Sword slash works as well when you are crouching but it doensn't move skulltula at all of course.

Sorry my bad english but I hope you guys understand :)

do you think this trick could be combined with a clip of some sort in different areas that cant already be accessed through using bombs/ chus?

Glad to see someone invested some time into trying to make this useful. I thought it was pretty useless until Cfox mentioned it could be used to move a skulltula toward something climbable in order to vine clip, unfortunately adult link can't vine clip and child link can't use the bow. ^^ Maybe if we could move the skulltula toward the ladder in the first room of BotW somehow we could get earlier wellchus?

Could it be combined with this glitch? - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89jL9HOLqwg

It is MrGrunz skip 99% of the Shadow Temple glitch for all-temple runs and such. It requires that the redead be used to clip the wall. Well, moving the redead was slow... could this be used to make it faster? It'd probably be TAS only.

I don't think it will help with shadow temple boss key skip at all. You can't move redead with bow and I think hookshot is almost only method. And it seems TAS only trick to me.

BotW more early chus would maybe work but I don't know can you somehow move skulltulas as a child somehow. And if you can clip throught first laddes it would be useless because there is no water below you. So you would just fall to oob. I can't think of any other places where this trick could work for now. Adult link cannot clip from vines so it makes skulltula moving pretty useless.

ALMOST NEW WAY FOR JJB AS ADULT?!?! I think I may be on to something...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHpvK0jg5_4

Seriously though, we need a new way. The current way is pretty much "Outstanding glitchers only"

Anywho, I found this while thinking about a new way. I don't know how to get consistency with standing on nothing (that time it was pure luck) but I bet it is just positioning.

I don't think it will work, unless we can 'stand on nothing' in the ice since the loading zone is a bit above the water.

I looked closely and it's actually a seam. So if we could seamwalk then sidehop it MIGHT work.

Also, it's possible to clip inside of the ice by swimming. It's what I tried to do at the end of the video but failed :/ seems you need to be in oob to clip in. We really need a way to 'jump' out of the water.

This is all very old, check page 7 of this thread. On August 4th 2010 I found a new easy way to enter the iceberg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS5Iz2WNRg8), on August 5th I reached the exact same standing position underneat the platform as your video (messed with it on emulator for hours, lead to nothing).

JJB adult is not a very useful trick aside from challenge categories like Max% adult. Kazooie's method is not that hard with pause buffering and requires a lot less time and resources than going all the way out of bounds. On top of that it's actually possible, you'll never get link to jump 3 feet out of the water to touch the underside of the iceberg. Even from that standing OOB spot, with a hoverboots run-to-gainer where Link totally looks like he's brushing against the underside of the iceberg, he still doesn't trigger teh load zone.

Hate to crush dreams but it's not gonna happen, kazooies's method is pretty great anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkyLNTG6Y5M

I stumbled across this Navi skip in Jabu on the switch before the boomerang room. ZFG reckoned it is new, Paladrima reckons he's done it once or twice. Either way, that's a video of it.

Given the small amount of time saved and the likely precision required setting it up (I haven't had a chance to try it again) it's probably only useful in a TAS, so enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4VuiVc2T9A

Posted this on irc but I thought I'd put it here too.

It's low qual and the audio is desynched. If anyone's up to make a highqual just put my name in for credits. This by far is the easiest big octo skip ever.

made a higher quality video mostly because i wanted to mess around with video editing stuff because im such a complete newbie with it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHbc9T2ahyE

would shooting the skulltula with the slingshot and talking to navi make it go flying? i havnt played oot in a while so i cant think if it would work.

anyway its probs way slower to get the slingshot to do any sort of clip with the skulltula than the clip would save

No, the slingshot would just damage/kill the skulltula.

Jellyhover to Big Octorok
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AglaEy_WEc

I don't know is this old, but I didn't saw video anywhere, so I decide to upload this.

Samura1man yeah it's old :/

maxx was the first to do it. Jelly hovering is his trick, that's where he used it iirc.

found a nice setup for breaking the web in deku tree in child dungeon races

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o-t7RXfEB4

really easy really fast really consistent

Since its a big trick and hasn't been posted yet: Swordless DoT skip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNJRqrgt8ag&feature=feedu) (found by MrGrunz)

Pause buffer method found by pokey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A_dHWcmv5s

door of time skip angle is (144 / 65536) * 360 = 0.791015625°
door of time skip (swordless) angle is (48 / 65536) * 360 = 0.263671875°

credit: sockfolder

swordless dot skip unbuffered + buffered setup

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVJmu_RHlus

and a video getting stick B from lon lon ranch to go with it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRU7NxO_U44

it wouldn't surprise me if theres a faster way to do this, a lot of stuff needs to be tested with stick B from there

I was watching sockfolder's stream last night and I think it was ZFG? asked why no one had come up with a decent setup for navi-less forest escape.

This is the setup I've been using for a while now, it's pretty consistent and it's easy to beat Navi, the jump-slash is a little awkward but that is not a big deal.

The angle is pretty forgiving too, however I'm pretty sure there is a lot of room for improvement. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55gVrHUEwD8

Bazaar softlock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpzDDhKMR2I

Is this new??   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5zphUB7cms

Nice, a video for my Freeze Zelda playlist.  ;)
I subscribed you BTW.

Old, sorry. A lot of walls in that area can be clipped in a similar way (including one in Lake Hylia). That is different than the most common GV OoB, but it isn't new.

wow, if this is old, how have I gone so long without doing this whenever I fail bridge megaflip >_<

I found it back in 2009: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItwRdh0C2ls

This hasn't been posted here yet, as far as I can see.
So for people who aren't that often in the IRC I give you Aqua escape without Navi (probably TAS only, maybe segmented): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlBVVwDm_ks#t=6m30s

Erm, see post #471.

Hmm sorry totally overlooked that. I had somebody at tasvideos saying that he hadn't seen it before and then I couldn't find it here. Weird that I didn't see it. Sorry.

But hey now the original video is in this thread, too. :D

Ice Cavern Heart Piece for Max% Adult

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aac6IhJ2fys

Speaking of Max Adult, now that there's a strat to DoT skip swordless, is there a strat to get the Kokiri Sword as an Adult?

it isn't there as adult. It's just the tree stump with nothing on it.

I'm pretty sure most of you figured this out by now but here it is anyway: Adult Max % Spirit Temple Map (http://s300.photobucket.com/albums/nn38/Kimimaru4000/?action=view&current=SpiritTempleMapMaxAdult.mp4)

Just a set up for the hover boost in Forest Temple to get to the third poe. Saw it in Bingo and I had trouble just doing it on the fly so I came up with this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsyrSEBRV74

Not sure if this is new or not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs3XhkGU6yY

Would save time in a TAS, if anything.

I've seen that before. It's the same thing as the Colossus one. The locations for each area can be found with UoT.

Just a couple of set up videos to megaflip down to double magic. The square properly trolled me in a bingo, so I thought I'd work out a half decent strategy. If you're super quick, you can make it with only 2 hearts. The markings on the wall used for lining up are different between young and adult Link, hence the two videos.

Adult: http://youtu.be/pkc6mm_RuPc
Child: http://youtu.be/BDBkqLHuUlc

Skip text with Chicken.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIXYL8DaVVE&feature=channel_video_title

Not sure whether it is new or not

Never seen it done with a trade item, but it looks like it works on the same principle as taking out a deku stick just before climbing the vines, which has the same effect. For those particular vines, I'm not sure, as I backflip onto the chest then jump from the chest to the vines.

It's fairly challenging, not useful but is a new method it seems

I am about to give up on this if anybody would like to give it a shot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez8NKr6n2sk

Perhaps it is too high to megaflip, though it's not like we need another B1 Tree skip

Reupload: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1IPoKDWxpE

Bluephantom, that is amazing :D

This is a set up for the chu megaflip which skips doing the cucco jump. Alway a nice thing if you have a chu to spare. I know there's already a video somewhere on youtube, but the sole tag is "yep" so, unsurprisingly, I can never find it when I actually need it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj5rGOhXM2s

Uhh... Apparently re-posting old tricks is all the rage right now.

Which of mine are old? In everywhere I look I haven't found the 2 I posted

I think he was talking about lifting the archery guy, that trick is super old

Cutscene Compilation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X_0e87FuTM

That is older than isg >_>

I found that you can delay cutscenes by pressing the ocarina button mid-sidehop over and over: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP221K2-8QU

I've done this only I figured it was old ^.^

The only video, or at least method, I've seen for getting past the red ice leading to the heart piece in the ice caverns was through a bomb jump slash clip and I had a hard time getting that clip.

Found a simple setup for supersliding past it. Definitely useful for max%, but also perhaps bingo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsMccvJPoeI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsMccvJPoeI)

thats pretty sweet

theres a pause buffer for the js but i assume its slower as long as you hit the ss first try

Shadow early with one bomb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TflpMlh1Zro

dunno if this is usefull or if u guys already have an better angle or whatever

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC4Sje884Lg

Bomb Bag early with damage boost (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVI62y8JgRs)
Might be old, but I didn't saw video anywhere.

Yes it is old, but thanks for putting a video up.

I've never posted anything on this thread before, but I think I found something that (if I'm correct) the OoT community may or may not be interested in.

The past week or so I've been testing bomb drop rates under a given variable and have taken a bunch of data. One of them is really interesting I think, and might be important.

The variable I tested was how full your bomb bag is while you cut grass. Here's what I found:

Zero bombs in bag at every cut
Bushes cut: 2400
Total bomb drops: 318
Drop percentage per bush: 13.25%

Notice that this is pretty much exactly twice as much as Runnerguy's calculation. This is mainly why my interest was peaked, so I tried it with one drop in the bomb bag:

5 bombs in bag at every cut
Bushes cut: 1200
Total bomb drops: 162
Drop percentage per bush: 13.5%

Still twice as much. Maybe my cartridge is haunted? So I tried it with a full bomb bag:

Full bag of bombs at every cut
Bushes cut: 1200
Total bomb drops: 81
Drop percentage per bush: 6.75%

So now I'm pretty much exactly at what Runnerguy predicted, which made sense to me. But it's strange that fewer bombs gave more drops, so I tested with two drops in the bomb bag:

10 bombs in bag at every cut
Bushes cut: 1200
Total bomb drops: 80
Drop percentage per bush: 6.66%

I thought this was interesting since it was pretty much exactly what a full bag would expect percentage wise, and from there I experimented a bit until I found a statistic I think is very interesting:

6 bombs in bag at every cut
Bushes cut: 1200
Total bomb drops: 82
Drop percentage per bush: 6.83%

This seems to suggest that the average percentage chance that you'll get a drop from a bush is 6.75% until you reach 5 bombs left in your bag, at which point it doubles

Here are the important results:

Total average percentage drops per bush with 6 or more bombs in the bag: 6.75% (on the nose)
Total average percentage drops per bush with 5 or fewer bombs in the bag: 13.33%

Logically this suggests to me that the programmers set the chance per bush to 13.5% (being .17% generous to match what appears to be the trend) while you have 5 or fewer bombs, and had that value cut in half to 6.75% when you have 6 or more bombs. Might this be useful?

Supposing I'm right, if you're approaching a patch of 12 bushes with 6 bombs in your bomb bag and simply cut them, you will end up with an average of 9.75 bombs as a result. However, if you drop one bomb before cutting the grass, you will end up with an average of 13.1 bombs. Obviously, this scenario can be extrapolated to more complicated situations where the effect is magnified even greater (Lake Hylia in MST, for example), but this post is getting pretty long, and I don't even know if anyone will be interested in this anyway.


Important things to note about the data:

-The sample size for both averages is equal, and the total is 7200 bushes. Runnerguy probably did more than this, but my results were dramatic enough and consistent enough that I thought this was worth posting. Unless someone is interested in seeing if my results can be replicated, this whole post can be taken with a grain of salt.

-All of the testing was done on a 100% file. This means that each type of drop was available to come out of each bush, but my results still happened. I don't know if the fact that I had the biggest bomb bag changes anything. Also, all things in my inventory including arrows, rupees, hearts and magic were full.

-All of the testing was done at the graveyard with the main set of 12 bushes.

-Almost all cuts to bushes were done with "diagonal slices", by holding Z and pressing right before slashing. I also used crouch stabs and the occasional accidental quick spin.

-I didn't pick up bomb drops when they came out, I made sure to keep that 100% consistent.

-If you notice an error in my math let me know. I'm pretty sure it's right, but I've messed that stuff up before.


Anyway, I just didn't want to do all that running back and forth to get (what I think is) an interesting result just to not say anything. Hopefully someone reads this!

-Pewd

Thanks for your analysis! I always did notice that when I had fewer bombs I got bomb drops more often.

Spirit statue falling damage boost (setup) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjnYCj8Aqac)

Having read the bomb luck analysis by poodleskirt i was inspired to calculate the probability of getting the bomb luck necessary to complete the black gauntlet route for any% assuming poodleskirt's results for the bomb probabilities are correct.

The result i got was a 19.3% chance of success however for those who want to see the maths look here:

(http://)

Medallion cutscene skips with death:
Forest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUn4gbgW3Ec
Water: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lHLyWSwLMw
Shadow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VOP5BTb5Hs
Spirit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ihhNP5SHjU

Fire medallion cutscene skip and skip Minuet of Forest for Low% MST:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHQBgGd18zY

All of these tricks are frame perfect and you have to get far enough away from the blue warp in order to die on the correct frame.
If the screen turns white as the game loads after pressing continue and you start at the start of the temple (except for fire) then you did it right. 1 frame too late and the screen turns white, but the cutscene starts, 1 frame too early and you start at the beginning of the temple without the medallion (no white screen). You have to press continue after dying, save and quit does not work.

This is HUGE, it would mean fire first with bottle (and possibly duped lens just in case because no bow). It would save so much time! Amazing finds!

(http://i.imgur.com/33dxK.gif)

DC as Adult @ night CS Skip to GTG (Abahbob got the same thing at daytime I believe):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u6GNUu2YD4&feature=g-upl&context=G2070e59AUAAAAAAAAAA

light arrow skip, nothing major. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZplcToQsZZE

HOLY.

FUCKING.

SHIT.

Words cannot express how shocked I am right now. Holy fuck.

I have a theory on how to get closer to the end of the credit sequence, and why warping straight into Ganon's collapse sequence crashes the game.

(http://i.imgur.com/gNjvp.jpg)

we did it ya'll

Propose theory -> Don't reveal it
:p

But are we going to time this in some other way then or just .done when the screen goes all white or something?

wtf - awesome
i'll wait for the trick page

edit: what do you need to be able to test stuff? i'd love to try figuring something out
(i had this in the archive thread but realized it was the wrong place)

(http://i.imgur.com/Ij3Sl.png)

DC -> GTG positioning setup for the death wrong warp

http://www.twitch.tv/canoshiz/c/43959

1. stand in the middle of the black line segment as shown (link's heels should be touching the edge of the darkest part of the line)
2. line up the right side of the b button with the bottom right corner of the warp
3. neutral roll
4. turn around 180 and target
5. insta shield drop bomb, neutral roll twice
6. drop fish, catch fish
7. wait a bit, backflip and OI (there might be a pause buffer method available here?)
8. cancel OI a tiny bit after the camera is done panning around link
9. pray

side note: you can't do both the death wrong warp and farore's wind wrong warp in the same run :(

I figured out a way for the Beta Jabu not to crash. Do not make rapid camera movements!

As soon as you get control, hold slightly forward so that the camera don't pan behind link. Now slowly walk forward-right until you're at the stairs. Now to game won't crash for atleast a minute. I havn't been able to get into to a warp point though. might it be something loading close to them?

Also walking to far away seems to make it crash... maybe.

I havn't had time to test this thoroughly so feel free yourselves. Here's some twitch highlights of it:
http://www.twitch.tv/primat91/c/45520
http://www.twitch.tv/primat91/c/45523
http://www.twitch.tv/primat91/c/45527

Can you set a warp point in Beta Jabu? Then try porting there normally.

If you use a FW there then you'll teleport back to the tent. I've been trying to get into jabu but I havn't been able to. Also, it seems like the normal child jabu still is there but is invisible. At least I think I bumped into him...

Btw don't touch the pedestal nor walk past it because you'll either crash or fall into the water (which results in a crash). You can't climb up the fence, you can't go too near the tree stump, the right wall (when looking away) isn't solid and don't look at Jabu.

You can't set a warp point to Beta Jabu because of Reverse Wrong Warping. When you wrong warp, you are still warping with the same scene entrance pointer as if you were just casting Farore's Wind normally. The difference is that cutscene mode silently changes which entrance you really end up in without physically changing the scene entrance pointer.

This gives me a few new theories and questions.

If you death warp from DT->DC, and then go through a door and cast Farore’s Wind, Farore’s wind should take you back to DT, but with the cords of the door you opened in DC. If you respawn in DC, but still have the scene entrance value for DT stored at the top of the SRAM data, is it possible that DT’s scene flags are loaded even though you’re in DC? Is it possible to overwrite DC’s scene flags with DT’s?

Farore's Wind I almost can garantee transfers temporary scene flags when you teleport. I wonder if this can be exploited? This would probably have a bigger impact on Master Quest as there are more "Ocarina Block" puzzles.

here's "my" setup for the Water Cutscene skip. I've gotten it a few times in a row using this. I got the general idea from watching pheenoh so most of the credit should go to him.
when you do the sidehop-turn right, sidehop sidehop turn roll backflip(OI) i match up the center of links head with the top-right side of the darkened in T shape that forms the bricks above his head before doing the first sidehop.
Once you have OI and the camera goes back to normal:

first frame sword and shield completely separate buffer bomb + target
first frame bomb is visible hold forward
when bomb is completely blue after the second red flash let go until frame after its fully red again
buffer  right 1 frame to turn in place
buffer target 1 frame, second frame of camera rotation hold forward
dont save, continue
respawn in water temple entrance w/ a nice white flash :)

http://youtu.be/Q1gpIzvcZGg

I recently saw the teleport to the credits and all I can say is... Wow!

You guys are doing excellent with these discoveries and I have been inspired to play again. Keep up the great work :)!

This is what happens when you try warp to beta jabu area on n64:
http://youtu.be/kil9dYLgqqY

Read despriction for more information about that area what I found out on emulator! And somebody need to make video of this on gamecube! :)

There you go Kazooie! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD7jgFKcTbU)

Thanks samura1one! Here is botw as a adult:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMn3SVOMaxQ&feature=youtu.be

EDIT:
Two other videos about WW glitch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WANqkHWlQHg&context=C3d559fbADOEgsToPDskJvTBg7J9KbUuMAg9FCemj6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxwrBcFrqog&context=C3d559fbADOEgsToPDskJvTBg7J9KbUuMAg9FCemj6

New Deku Tree "Boss" Door skip via wrong map warp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYcyokxGthA)

Zombie Walking (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aeq8SLQkXGA)

I don't know if this is old but as I haven't ever heard about it, I'll share it anyways.

I found that it is possible to get a Forward Z-slide from running. I don't think you can get any sort of back-walk speed or side-hop speed Z-slide with nothing to preserve or give link speed (water or damage/recoil, respectively), but it might be possible if you start with shorter button press intervals or something. I have two m64's but I am unable to put them up at the moment, mainly because I can't get Mupen to capture video footage with its AVI recording utility and I don't have an account to a file sharing service... (I don't even have a Youtube account, which I really need to fix...)

On another note, Cutscene Wrong Warping looks like it's underlying reasons for what it does are going to be about as complicated as RBA and BA. Which seems fitting when all three are so far among the most screwed-up glitches in terms of results. BA gives you wacky items, RBA messes up your inventory, and Cutscene WW can teleport Link to really weird places. I'm having trouble imagining what another glitch of such kind would do differently, another such glitch even exists. That glitch is just insane.

I think Mr. Grunz said that skipping Zora Mask or any temple in Majora's Mask would be about as likely as skipping Light Arrows in OoT. Back when he said that, it would have been a totally reasonable statement. Seeing what has just recently happened, however, puts the subject into a rather different perspective......... (But I'm sure that discussion might be best appreciated on the MM forums)

You can and Bloob used it in his any%. ;)

A quick way of entering Deku Tree as adult if you're coming from Lost Woods:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2mhjzUHTU4

This should save some time in the current CS skips MST route.

Dom dood, nice find.

Ok, this isn't a trick, but it really irks me that no one else has realized it and I want to get it out there. So, sue me.

Anyhow, after getting version 1.1 for N64, the first thing I did was go to the Fire Temple to hear the Islamic chanting song. It turns out that the Version Differences page is wrong. The second version of the Fire Temple song is NOT a remix of the Shadow Temple. If whoever wrote the page actually listened to both songs as I did, they would have found that it was... THE FIRE TEMPLE SONG. The percussion for both versions is exactly the same and I do not know how the hell anybody could have made such a mistake. After establishing this fact, I found out two more things about the song.

1: What the page writer calls 'Gregorian-style moans' go to the same tune as the first chant. They also follow the same pattern: fade in, crescendo, fade out. Also, the 'ghostly female voices' replace the second chant, also following the same general tune as the chant it replaces. Considering how lazy we all know Nintendo is about editing, I don't know why anyone would think they would make an ENTIRELY NEW SONG for the Fire Temple.

2: The second thing I found (although this may not be true) is that both chants seem to be gibberish, with one real word. I have tried substituting the three verses that people say are in the song with both chants and none of them sound like what I heard in the actual song. The reason I believe this is because the first chant repeats until the fadeout, in which the one one real word, which I believe is 'Allaho.' Also, remember that this music was made with a computer. I don't know much about synthesizers, but I would think that making words, and getting the computer to pronounce them right, would be very difficult. Althougn these chants seem to be wordless (I can't really tell with the second chant because it overlaps with the first) they do still sound quite stereotypical and were, as stated in the version differences page, probably removed due to possible racism.

Personally, I believe that the Muslim features in the game point towards a possibility that Hyrule's religion (which I like to call 'the Trinity') and culture is reminiscent of the Muslim religion and culture, but we'll never know for sure, since Nintendo never really does provide us with much besides the history of the Triforce.

Sorry for text wall... :P Just had to get that out. Someone please update the V.D. page with the info from point 1. I can't test the second point as I have had gaming priveleges taken away for awhile... :(

You said you are using V1.1, which does have the original Fire Temple music. The versions page says that for V1.2 the fire temple music was changed to a shadow temple remix.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkmeU2ilbJg&feature=related

That video has both so you can compare.

v1.1 did not change the Fire Temple music, did not have green blood, or any of that sort of thing. It only fixes a few glitches (Stealing the Rod with Hover Boots and Swordless Link with Save+Quit are the most well known, but they also fixed Elemental Protection and some other things) and also changes some text (Light Arrow quicktext was apparently removed, and that guy in Kakariko with the crazy formatting was restored to normal). The version differences page is exactly correct in this regard.

The "gibberish" you speak of is Arabic, and it was not made by a computer but rather a human being. It was NOT recorded specifically for OoT, since it appears in Cruis'n World two years prior. We have an entire thread about the chants here (http://forums.zeldaspeedruns.com/index.php?topic=490.0), which includes samples of it in various games and the lyrics to the chant.

The "chants" in v1.2 were made by a computer (or, more accurately, a synthesizer), and are also the exact same choral synths used in the Shadow Temple, which is why the version differences page says it's a "remix". The background percussion and other ambient parts of the Fire Temple track remained intact in v1.2

First off, I knew about most of those differences from the page. Secondly, thank you for explaining the use of the term "Shadow Temple remix." Thirdly, I know that the language is Arabic. The reason I called it gibberish is because I couldn't place the lyrics to any of the chants, therefore I thought that Nintendo had synthesized a gibberish melody that sounded Islamic. Lastly, I listened to both songs extensively (I still have my original 1.2 cart), I didn't just say 'oh, I'm gonna complain about the Fire Temple with no actual proof.' I'm sorry for the misunderstanding; I didn't know that there was an entire page about the song and its lyrics. I'm still confused as to why there are 3 sayings on that page, but only two chants in the song, but hey. Watevs, bro. Peace.

Hi Everyone!

Through my own trials and tribulations I've come across two discoveries while doing Child Dungeons and have found two methods that could be used to help people with specific areas. I'll apologize beforehand for the crappy videos due to my horrible upload speed when I stream.

First, I'll start with the most reliable method

I had a lot of trouble trying out the main megaflip strategies at the waterfall for some reason, and because of my own fooling around I found that this method I discovered works well for me and has room for a large margin of error. Its mostly just a new perspective on performing the megaflip with some visual cues so that the entire process can be buffered.

I have a new setup for the Waterfall Megaflip outside Zora's Domain. It's very easy to follow if you're used to doing normal megaflips. To set it up requires placement of backwalking down the specific spots as show in the videos, (basically, the peak of the tallest brown spot should be somewhere between Link's legs) then taking out a bombchu, and buffering to the normal black frame after the 7th flash. at that point you shield drop your chu, but do not roll. After shield dropping, wait until the bombchu begins to climb up the wall just a little bit, as seen in the video, then begin your roll. At this point you can either mash down and a to do the megaflip or pause buffer it like normal and you should get into the waterfall. There is a lot of room for margin of error, so if you drop the chu a few frames late, you just need to compensate for those frames. For example. If you're trying to pause buffer the frames and you skip over the black frame, continue to shield drop the chu like normal (as seen in the 2nd video), but roll EARLIER, IE, as soon as the chu starts climbing the wall, proceed like normal, and you should get it.

This can be done unbuffered if you have the reflexes.

1st Megaflip: http://www.twitch.tv/tbrx/b/312098546

2nd Megaflip, better viewing angle: http://www.twitch.tv/tbrx/b/312098806

Late-Buffer Megaflip Example: http://www.twitch.tv/tbrx/b/312099507


The second discovery I've come across is that it is possible to backflip into the B1 Web of Deku Tree after doing the Baba Megasidehop. I don't know if this common knowledge or not but I have footage of being able to backflip into the web immediately after being knocked down. Basically, you don't have to grab the ledge to drop through. I still need more time to dissect this thoroughly but I think it's related to the angle and location you perform the Megasidehop from at the top of the tree, as the way I've done it positions me right above the web. I should note I am playing on Virtual Console, if that may have anything to do with it.

Demonstration 1 (Warning, might want to mute speakers, I get a little too excited lol): http://www.twitch.tv/tbrx/b/312100570

Demonstration 2: http://www.twitch.tv/tbrx/b/312101678

Please let me know if I can update any more relevant information to these methods.

If these methods are accepted, I will make  higher quality videos on emulator to be posted to the website, please give me some feedback for my discoveries, thanks!

What I think is most significant is the ability to still buffer the megaflip if you miss the black frame (looking at the 3rd vid there). I reckon that's probably one of the most commonly wasted chus in CD so you've potentially saved people from a lot of excessive resetting (or biri hovering). If you could get a proper quality video showing what it looks like if you hit the 8th red flash for example (a frame late) then I, and I'm sure others, would find that very valuable.

As for the first two videos, from what I can tell, it's still done in two pauses minimum (shield drop + roll) so that's the same as the current standard. You've essentially taken the unbuffered timing (shield drop *wait a second* then roll) and turned it into a buffer, which is perfectly fine - "whatever works for you" is what I always say!

The Deku B1 Megasidehop backflip doesn't surprise me, although I didn't know for certain it was possible. Is there any element of timing the backflip or can you consistently backflip as soon as you land and make it through the web? Depending on how lenient it is with the initial angle of the megasidehop it could be one of those cool little 1 second time savers - it would be interesting to hear back how it goes.

Okay got an HQ video and explain how to pull off the megaflip on a late chu shield drop

http://youtu.be/pw2d3jpi2Ok

I will investigate into the web backflip sometime soon

Edit: an update

I've pretty much figured out how to consistently do the backflip clip. Basically, when you do the Baba Megasidehop, you want to be as far left to the Deku Baba as possible when you perform the Megasidehop. Once you do that, keep pressing Down + A until you either clip through the web, or fail. In the 3rd try you can see how I can fail to clip in the video, but note my positioning when I perform the Megasidehop, it's not as far left as I can possibly be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o4L8Tgj0lE

Edit: Again,

I have a full setup for this trick now as well as a video. Setup is in video description.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAl3Vj8J04M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxrISvOcE3c

"Megaspin". Not serious, but quite fun for those who've never seen it before.

Link normally does that if you hold B down longer, like for the magic "green-sword" Spin Attack. Even if you don't have magic, he'll still do it.

Yea further testing revealed that to be the case. This set up is quicker though for those time critical moments.

I posted this in #zelda, but putting it in the tread incase some people haven't seen it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62tJSb4RI1o&

Recoil from Megaton hammer to skip Fire temple bk

I found a (hopefully!) new OoB spot in Gerudo Valley yesterday evening, over by the shallow pool w/ the log bridge going over it. You have to get on the rock-stump thing under the bridge that holds it up, on the left side of the bridge coming from Hyrule Field. You have to find a spot where when facing at a 45 degree angle to the log (about there, at least) and facing the Hyrule Field exit, either Sidehopping or Backflipping (after turning around to face away from it) towards the log will be canceled immediately because the log is in the way. From there you need to pull out your sword and JS. Link will either clip through the log and end up on the top (and usually promptly fall off), (this was possibility was added as an edit -> ) have something else happen (no clipping), or clip through both the ground and the log and fall into OoB water. Once you are in, some actions may or may not lock the camera.

I hope this is new, and maybe have some usefulness or something. (I was going to mention walking while talking, but that could be activated from just a water death)
I will post an .m64 once I sign up to a file sharing service, as AVI recording doesn't work for me, and I still need a youtube account anyways. (or someone else could post a video of it on youtube if they want)

EDIT: Well, I promised an .m64, but although I am unable to give that, I can now give a YouTube video, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzhyCZU6Dcc

This is sort of double posting, but it has been a few days already, and this has nothing to do with the post above.
(http://i.imgur.com/GPxF2.jpg)
I don't know if weird slides can go forward and still result in this, but I thought I'd post this. If only I was recording...

I made a compilation video of setups for death cutscene skips in all the temples for young Link. They are similar to previous setups, except the forest temple one which I think is an improved strategy over previous setups. You may notice the video is on youtube. Sadly I cannot edit together twitch highlights so I had to do this. Sadly, the flv files XSplit outputs are difficult to edit, or at least, the editor I used was trashy. If you have suggestions in this regard, please tell me so I can redo this one.
I'll make a similar video for adult Link in the future.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCUdcBnLE5Y

Shadow boat room skulltula as child with boomerang (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q6FrCjbqOA)

I figured out a way to trigger the "mysterious" Hyrule glitch via cheats. 801CA0CC in v1.0 stores what I believe to be the actor count. If you manually set this value to be ~ 0xCF, new actors stop loading completely. When walking around the "forest" near the southern end of Hyrule I'm able to push this number up to the mid 0xA0s as a child, but not quite enough to be able to activate the glitch. To me this suggests that there must be some glitch that causes the actor count to increase when a certain actor is loaded, but not decrease when said actor does not unload.

Edit: I think I know why Jabu Jabu as an Adult doesn't work without hovering underneath the ice. I believe that Nintendo coded this exit so that the game checks to see if Link is walking over a particular polygon before letting you pass rather than try and create some crazy hitbox. When you set the actor count to it's maximum value the ice block is not loaded, and the exit trigger extends a hell of a lot higher up as both an adult and child link.

I found a method to do the fire temple death cs skip without pausebuffering. Basically you memorize a bunch of frames to determine when you are sidehopping, and then compensate for any errors after you land. I did this for both adult and child.
Child: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz8L2Q3DPN8
Adult: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsMLkqjUEa8

People still need to test this on the consoles to see if the frames appear different as some people have reported. However, this may be caused by people not holding Z while dying.

Also, with the power of Nemu64 debugging, I actually looked at some stuff in the code to resolve some mysteries.
First, bushes have a table of 16 slots that determine what they drop. They have a 'special' item drop in their table that is converted based on what the game thinks Link needs. It is processed in this order:
1. If HP <=1, drop a fairy.
2. If HP <= 3, drop 3 hearts.
3. If HP <= 5, drop 1 heart.
4. If Magic Bar is empty, drop magic.
5. If Child?? and Deku Seed Count <= 5, drop deku seeds.
6. If Arrow Count <= 5, drop arrows.
7. If Bomb Count <= 5, drop bombs.

It checks arrow count even if you don't have a bow, in which case nothing will drop (arrows are converted to nothing).

Next, the weird bomb bag (20) thing works as follows. When you already have a bomb bag, it uses the default item handler which put the item on a slot and increases the quantity by 1. The quantity type gets set correctly before the bomb bag slot is checked, so it works fine. The game has a table it uses to lookup the slot an item corresponds to, but it only has values through the trade items. When the table is accessed for the bomb bag (20), the game pulls a value from a list of pointers, namely 8 (this is actually always done, even if you don't have the bomb bag). Then the game thinks the bomb bag goes on that slot so it overwrites chus.

The golden scale was difficult to follow, so I'm less sure on this. However, it seems to be that hold z in water sets a flag (which normally corresponds to Link being in air iirc). The flag causes the game to think you are busy when you are receiving the prize, which causes data to become outdated or something, so you get golden scale as a default.

To this what I have hacked oot with uot. Loading zones works as follow. If set floor collision to have loading zone with uot, like normally square in oot have loading zone flag actived in it. When game makes loading zone it will make pillar from that square up to sky as long there isn't some collision on the way. So if loading zone have *roof* collision on it. Loading pillar stops there. If not then it will go way lot higher. You can see this in some dungeons like fire temple and forest temple loading zones. Loading *pillar* is high because there is no roof collision to loading zones. Hope you get what I mean.

I figured out a new oot glitch skip b1 of deku tree with bomb megaflip requires forest escape and bomb bag

There already (http://zeldaspeedruns.com/oot/dungeon-tricks/deku-tree#deku-baba-mega-sidehop) is a method for skipping b1 of the deku tree that doesn't require bombs.

I know that I found a new METHOD of it

Ok then what is the method?

I'll make a video ok?

For those who missed it, there is a new any% route in the works. r0bd0g and sockfolder came up with the idea of exiting Gohma's lair through the boss door to wrong warp out (after you OI into the warp) and though it's frame-perfect, it takes you to the post-Ganondorf GC collapse scene and then you can beat Ganon as child Link. The tentative route I came up with is: Intro, S&S, aquascape, kak, bottle + bugs, savewarp, deku, gohma, suicide to gohma, re-enter, ww, castle, ganon, .done

You have to die to Gohma on the same frame you kill her, which is actually very easy. Just jumpslash when close to her with either a sword or a stick, as seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyDjjmF9MYM
Jarvitz accidentally did this in a SNB forever ago but it's very consistent.

Wait... Can you kill Ganon with kokiri sword?

No, you kill him with the master sword. Which you can get by either dying during the tower escape, or by picking it up after it gets knocked away during ganon.

Yeh, nevermind, I just watched ZFG's run.

This trick deserves the Palme d'Or du What The Fuck.

I love Link's screams on his last strikes.

Doesn't the stick count as a MS? Can you use c to kill him? I gotta try this :p!

No. But master sword is auto equipped, so doesn't really matter.

damn this is so sick haha. good shit to all of you contributing finding this gamebreaking stuff. also nice run zfg.

but honestly...i seriously believe that some things just shouldnt be discovered...ever! ^^

.    Here is the new method http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BuVjphXu3v
 
Thanks.

Oops wrong link lol http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BuVjphXu3vg
Thanks again

That was found ages ago :/

Sorry

It's also important to note that a Ground Jump can get you up there and thus is an easier and more reliable method.

EDIT: Or better yet, do the jumpslash from the top or the deku baba mega sidehop.

Description of video:
"According to ZSR this glitch happens because the web is not loaded by keeping the camera behind link however I have not done that here yet it still works.
I did this on an emulator as unfortunately I don't have my console with me at the moment so this may just be an emulator glitch, something for people to test."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lgiJKZnD64
Might be usefull in any%

That's because it's wrong (sorta). That web clip is used in any%, and it's still unclear what causes the web to load. The only thing that is clear is once the basement is loaded a second time, the web becomes solid.

Discovered some glitches with switches.

In the water temple, in the room where you have to push a block on top of the blue switch to raise the water level, if you game over or save and quit while standing on that switch, the puzzle will automatically complete itself.

Also in the water temple, the eye switch in the main room (second level) sets a perm scene flag when shot. If you shoot it and save quit before the gate shuts, you can hear the eye open when reloading the save. A similar situation occurs with the switch in the dragon's mouth in the whirlpool room.

In Dodongo's Cavern, if you die while standing on the blue switch there, the puzzle will automatically complete itself. It will (of course) reset itself if you exit the dungeon through the main exit.

Edit: More switch related stuff dealing with death wrong warping.

Farore's Wind apparently stores the state in which a room is entered, so normally it shouldn't be possible to store certain temp flags. However,  any temp flags like blue switches or the fire temple's crystal switches will remain set if you die while the switches are set. This will allow you to store certain temp flags that would otherwise be difficult to store.

As stated before, knocking down the ladder in the slingshot room in DT will cause the steps in DC to drop.

Using the SoT to move the ToT block at the north end of the large F1 room in the Fire Temple so that it's closer to the ground should cause the western "twisted corridor" room (next to the block puzzle room) in the Forest Temple to straighten out.

Using the SoT to move the ToT block by the Goron jail cell in the Fire Temple should cause the eastern "twisted corridor" room in the Forest Temple to become twisted.

Found this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujcCA85WyJ4) of early GTG as adult earlier today.  I tested it as child and it works too (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fgMfzCkX48).

I knew that had to be possible! Several months ago, I had tried on console to clip through the door like that because I was sure that had to be possible...

...only thing is, is that I was unable to figure out how. :-[

New to forums, but it seems I post this here. Found an unbuffered method to skip the Water Medallion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7lt5Y_ZKAY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7lt5Y_ZKAY)

Bad audio, but the instructions are in the description.

Great stuff, and welcome

Nice discovery! (and welcome to ZSR)

Nice, but it's still only one frame. I think adapting a pause buffer into this would be better.

I discovered some quirks with fish weights in OoT U.

Fish weight is clearly stored as a floating point number. The conversion of the unit to pounds to suggest that fish weight is in hectograms. To prove this point, a fish that weighs 60 units weighs 13 pounds in U (6.0 kilograms converts to 13.2 pounds). However, the conversion seems to either be bugged or intentionally skewed.

For example, a fish that weighs 30 units is noted to be 3 pounds, but a fish that weighs 75 units is 20 pounds (more than 5 times heavier).

Lol J is by length, whereas U is by weight. That explains a lot.

Lastly, it is possible (in theory, dunno if it ever happens) to catch a fish that weighs "the same", but is heavier than the one you've just caught. This is because the game still uses J version's method of measuring fish behind the scenes.

Hey, this be my first post.
I discovered a pretty consistent setup for the Jump to Deku Tree Basement 2 Ledge trick found by Greenalink. Here's the video with explanation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a6Fh3ZDhjc&lc. I hope people find it useful.

Made a setup for the Door of Time skip that allows you to ignore using C-Up; probably slightly slower than if you get the angle right away, so it's just an alternative.

Video (close your ears): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fepH3forwR0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fepH3forwR0)

EDIT: Sockfolder already found this, derp

R0bd0g discovered that it's possible to reach the file select screen without returning to the hyrule field intro cutscene, and I helped!

To do it, you have to press start when the game starts to fade the screen out of Hyrule Field. You won't be able to hear an audible tone if it worked. Then, press start any time after the next cutscene begins.

With this, I'm 99% confident you can now save warp out of Gohma if you use the Nabooru Demo cutscene as your last cutscene.

I tested on emulator and it worked for Nabooru Demo. Sweet.

I figured out "Beta Quest", and discovered something new with the new title screen glitch.

8011B92F, (Listed in PJ64 as Beta Quest\Set HUD always On/Off) actually stores what state the game is in. There are three states that I know of

00 = Normal Play Mode
01 = Title Screen (Demo) Mode
02 = File Select Mode

When you spam press start when the during the fade out transition at the right time, the game moves on to mode 02 for File Select, but the next scene has already started loading, so you don't immediately end up at the file select screen just yet. As long as the game mode is 02, every time a scene is (re)loaded (unless you're already on the file select screen) it will take you back to the file select screen, which means that instead of pressing start when the next "demo" cutscene plays, you can wait it out instead and still reach the title screen.

Now to "Beta Quest". There are two things that ultimately separate normal wrong warping from "Beta Quest".

The first is this game mode value. When it's set to 01 for the Title Screen/Demo Mode, the game will always attempt to play a cutscene, until it's unset by watching a cutscene. This value is only set on the title screen.

The second factor is the cutscene/entrance offset (8111A5DA). If this value is set between FFF0 and FFFF when a scene is loading, a cutscene (determined by the last digit) plays. When the Play Beta Quest Worlds cheat (8011B9E3) is activated on loading the game, it sets the cutscene/entrance offset to a value between FF00-FF0F, but the game state will be 01 for the Title Screen.

When this occurs, the game sets up as if it were going to play a cutscene (because a cutscene is always played when the game state is 01), but the cutscene fails to play because the cutscene/entrance offset is out of range. However, the last digit of the cutscene/entrance offset still determines which cutscene to play, and affects what the "true" entrance offset ends up being when touching scene entrances.

Navi Dive to ZD from Lake Hylia, discovered by Kosmicd12 set up discovered by me.
http://www.twitch.tv/ducky1994/b/321901389

Haven't bothered until now to post this, but I do not know if this has happened to anyone else:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFw2wD1D-Zg

Only the start button works.

That looks like what happens when you use the Fishing Rod outside of the Fishing Pond, but you're still inside the pond. Weird...

I've not seen this before in reg OoT, but this has been known to work in 3DS for awhile now.

New Mirror Room Puzzle Skip setup:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu0JvF8gilw

Found by sva  :)

Found a way to get double magic as a child using a bomb and the ocarina

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CPuhMDTZuA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CPuhMDTZuA)

No clue if this has already been found, I can't find it anywhere else so I guess not

Looks new to me, cool find.

How consistent can you get this working? I sometimes have trouble with the sidehopping method, so if this method is very consistent I might start using it instead.

EDIT: I tried it a lot and it's pretty consistent so far. Nice work!

Useless Unloaded Forest Temple Room (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_adtt3EUKM&feature=plcp) I dunno, I thought it was weird.

lmao

So as Poodleskirt worked on his adult chu slide to get into shadow, we realized there were variable number of frames Link would still side roll after shield dropping a chu. After much effort, I figured out the cause, and it is quite odd.

As most know, after you backflip, Link will roll to the side. If you hold shield out after landing and wait a bit, Link will instead roll forward. Basically the cause of this is after a certain number of frames, the game corrects Link's 'movement direction' to be the way he is actually facing, to simplify things. The number of frame you get depend on Link's 'walk animation timer'.

What is this timer you ask? Well, since Link's animation changes speed depending on how fast he moves, the game needs to keep track of where Link is in his gait (e.g. left foot down and stepping forward with the right) so that the animation will be seemless. This timer is basically the measure of this. It is used during the walking animations and importantly, in Link's Z+R shuffle animation. Most of the time, the timer is reset at the start of the animation. However, for the Z+R animation, it just continues from the previous value.

The animation timer runs in a cycle from 0 to 29 (float). The speed it runs depends on Link's walking speed. For Z+R, it ticks 1.5 per frame. Now finally for the important part. When the timer is in the range 4.5-12.5 and 18.5-27.5, the game corrects Link's movement direction. That is, the sideroll stops working. So if your timer was 5 when you backflipped, you will have 1 (or 2? I need to check.) frames to side roll after shield dropping the chu. This is obviously bad. If you tap forward/backward for one frame, the timer will be ~0.8. This will give 4 frames I believe to side roll after the shield drop.

As a final incidental fact, I found the timer changes with Link's walk while holding out the spin attack. When he stops in this animation, the timer is actually set to 0 exactly. However, this isn't really useful to the chu slide setup.

(http://blog.ancientlasers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Mind-Blown.jpg)

Good work.

Poodleskirt's ganondoor with no buffering video here (http://www.twitch.tv/poodleskirt/b/323432556). Gonna try and figure this out myself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLQgXnTny7g
Don't know what causes it. I was playing on VC

Here's a method for Song of Time skip in the Forest Trial of MQ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YSInwesFG4

There's probably a better way than this but it was all I could do to get it to work at all.

Setup for ice cavern HP without blue fire http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRUQzX6xUVw

Probably old but...
Obtaining the Gerudo's Fortress Heart Piece without ISG. (Uses a Megaslide...I think that's what it's called, right?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UY9ihTxOYw

More useless junk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0s-i6Y3uso&feature=youtu.be

New trick - A slide OoB hookshot (or other 1st person items) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFY1VomW7m0

current uses:

Ice arrows as adult with 0 keys (in the above video)
Fire Temple boss key early http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH4R2nCRxzk
Water Temple vortex room GS without SoT (useful for max% adult) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r-8P5vp3-c
New Method for Zora's Fountain GS w/o silver gauntlets (requires longshot) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz1hISqbz4M
GS in grotto near GV without dins (requires longshot)
Deku 1st web skip as adult

I just tried to test out the above trick and this happened: http://youtu.be/GeGei4xBXY0  :P

I know the colors are all wrong but it's because Windows Movie Maker (which i used to compress it because before hand it lagged unbearably) can play but not reformat the codec I used for some reason.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH4R2nCRxzk

Here's a 5 boss route I typed up. I know it doesn't really belong here but I thought that posting it here would let more people be able to find it.


http://pastebin.com/9qK7Bec4

So what happens if you don't hookshot anything at that point? Do you fall or do you clip back in bounds?

The thing I discovered was my first good attempt to try the trick to see if you could cancel it to fall.

Only the camera is altered, not link's position.

Messing around with grottos and thinking about wrong warping, I think I've discovered some crazy ass shit.

Just so I don't forget, here's three fairly important addresses found with MHS.

8011B94A is the last "proper" entrance point
8011B966 is the return point for a grotto or special return point (warp songs use this value)
801DA2B8 is the next entrance to load when hitting an exit.

Ok it's like this: When you enter a grotto, a return entrance index is stored in 11B966 to determine where the hell you should end up when you eventually leave. What I've discovered is that when dying and quitting, the value is retained, meaning that if we can enter a grotto in a non-conventional manner and leave it, we can end up at that last entrance point. Furthermore, we can also use warp songs to change which entrance we end up at.

Basically what this means is that in theory you should be able to play Nocturne/Requiem on one file, then wrong warp to a grotto on the second file, and leave it proper to warp to the Nocturne/Requiem spot.

There is one hitch though: when I tested this out via a series of codes, the return coordinates did not match up with the proper warp song coordinates. Will try to figure out why soon.

Sounds pretty cool to me.

Unfortunately... there's no known in-bounds fwww to a grotto.

The exit for getting caught by a guard (not the first time when the cutscene plays) in Gerudo Fortress hasn't been tested, though, and should lead to grottos. One thing though is that when people tested getting caught before, for some reason it took them to the jail cell, which it shouldn't have unless there's something weird about the way getting caught works (or maybe they just messed up the timing or something). The other ww to the grottos is Kak->Shooting Gallery, but it's apparently OoB...

I was going to ask if MM behaves the same way, until I realize we don't get the quitting option on a death. :\

http://www.twitch.tv/everalert/b/331426672

This started happening to me when I pressure jump. Is this new/does anyone know how to make it consistent?

It's just timing the jump well, and that's the best timing you can get.

Lol, if you come from the Deku Tree, a Giant Deku Baba will get caught on the stuff hanging from the side and dismember itself

Discovered how to skip the prescription, thanks to Jarvitz's video.

Get ANY Adult Trade Item, then when you get Zora's Armor perform collection delay (the last dialog box is the one where he says Tunic in red) with the hookshot. Aim slightly up and hold Z.

I'm not sure what you mean. Isn't the item before the prescription an Adult trade item? Should King Zora be unthawed before doing this, and how do you do the Hookshot collection delay?

Any Adult Trade item as in you can stick a bottle in there.

Bad news. I'm very confident that this glitch is a 1.0/1.1 exclusive. In 1.0, there's a frame where the map, the C-Items, and Navi icon appear before disappearing completely. In 1.2, all three appear at the same time that item collection occurs. Thus, collection delay is most likely impossible.

This is correct. This trick is NTSC 1.0, 1.1, and NTSC-J 1.0 only. I don't know about PAL yet. No official VC releases will work.

Is there a video of this?

R.I.P

100% Segmented Team Run


Quick someone make a unofficial N64 save manager that saves backup data from actual N64 carts and not the Controller Pak data.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzGr-WpZBOs

Yeah, we're discontinuing it because the VC route would be slower. It was pretty much dead when wrong warp was found, anyway. We just tried to save it by modifying a few segments, but now it's impossible to save.

original vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_3Jt0vR5Lw

More Wrong warping crazies.

Aparently, sva discovered that it's possible to Ganondoor wrong warp as an adult from a save warp a month ago by simply pausing the game.

Looked into it myself and I discovered that you can do the same as a child by backtracking to Link's house and pressing start there.

Basically, when you pause the game on certain maps, you can overwrite a important portion of the intro cutscene, causing it to not play. I do not know why it acts differently for child link.

Edit: Forgot to say which wrong warp.

I'm lost. What did sva do? Pause the game after savewarping then did a wrong warp of some kind?

I don't understand it either.

So, does this mean that if you missed the double kill on gohma and you have to savewarp, you can just go to link's house, pause, then do ganondoor?

If your last cutscene was the title screen and you pause the game in gohmas room, the wrong warp will work as adult.  I actually discovered this on accident a while ago too when I was starting 100%, messed up the route and did the WW after a savewarp and it still worked.

What about as a child, then?  Would backtracking to link's house and then WWing work?  Or pausing in gohma's room?  I'm more interested in the child ganondoor.

Someone figured out how to put Kokiri Sword as an adult on B by playing one of the minigames, then attempting to put one of the "minigame" items on B.

It works like this: When you play a minigame or ride Epona, your B item is pushed into a temp B slot (8011B9B2 on 1.0). This value remains until you dim the B button, or die.

Something interesting about Kiddy Capers. While in this state, you can't steal the rod and convert it into a stick like you would normally do, because the temp slot changes to FF (Empty Item) whenever the B button dims. You can get a stick on B by starting the Bombchu Bowling alley or Shooting Gallery, leaving, jumping into the river in front of castle town, and starting another game of Bombchu Bowling or Shooting Gallery before finally pausing the game. It seems almost as if that these minigames check for a Sword item that may already exists in the temp B slot before overwriting them. 

Another thing I noticed was that it was possible to get a copy of Sling/Chus/Fishing rod into the temp B slot, allowing you to pause the game without them disappearing from B. This makes it possible to save the game with them on B, but loading the file will blank the B button. Perhaps there is some way to manipulate this between files...

To push Sling or Chus into the temp B slot, perform Kiddy Capers to put Sling/Chus on B, then steal the fishing rod. To put the fishing rod on the temp B slot, just reverse the process. If you can get from the Fishing Pond to the Temple of Time (not sure if c buttons are disabled), you should be able to get to ToT and put Sling/Chus on B with the RBA setup up top.

Oh man...

Exodus discovered that if you perform collection delay when you would normally get the Eyeball Frog, you'll get the Zora Tunic instead.

Simply pull a bomb to activate Collection Delay, turn around, and throw the bomb to end it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1mEtmAUGPs

Edit: Did a little testing with other items...
You can get the collection delay with the Hookshot by aiming down towards the floor before cancelling with A to collect. Also you can show the prescription again to get the tunic as well.

However, both methods disable King Zora's speak option, so you'll have to reload him to get the Eyeball Frog again.

The normal collection delay (with a bomb) doesn't disable his speak option as long as you don't get too far away from him.

Sockfolder discovered that the cutscene pointer value for meeting the three "Meeting the Great Deku Tree" dialogs change depending on where you enter the scene, and that it's affected by reloading the Great Deku Tree map multiple times.

I played around with this and so far I've been able to get different cutscene pointers from pulling/setting the Master Sword. I was able to change the cutscene pointer by dropping the fish while the Master Sword chamber wasn't loaded, then stepping in while the fish was still flopping around

pull
801F3C50 <- From ToT exterior, dot skipping, pulling
801EF870 <- Immediately after dropping
801EF6B0 <- Fish

drop
801F4100 <- From ToT exterior, dot skipping droping
801EFD20 <- Immediately after pulling
801EFB60 <- Fish

"Adult" Wrong Warping

Probably impossible to encounter in the game proper, but with certain impossible entrance index values, you can wrong warp as adult link.

For example, 007D is Adult Night for Castle Courtyard as a child, but it takes you to Lot's of Pots as an adult, as there is a +2 modifier to the entrance index value

I don't quite understand, sorry. Doesn't Adult Link have even more WW options because of Farore's Wind?

EDIT: I found a frame buffered BOTW vine clip that works better for me than the others. Check it out: http://www.twitch.tv/kimimaru4000/b/338035493

Bufferless Vine Clip- http://www.twitch.tv/xana_anax/c/1727351 (http://www.twitch.tv/xana_anax/c/1727351)

Basically, if you pull out your sword before grabbing back onto the vines, you get more than 1 frame to clip through. the only hard part is timing the initial drop- too early, you won't clip, too late, the skulltula won't spin. I originally found this trying to clip off the GS in deku b1.

Fire Wrong Warp with 4-7 seconds remaining - discovered by PoodleSkirt - http://www.twitch.tv/xana_anax/c/1734241 (http://www.twitch.tv/xana_anax/c/1734241)

set up for clip for mito skip (not the skip itself) - http://www.twitch.tv/xana_anax/c/1734237 (http://www.twitch.tv/xana_anax/c/1734237)

two sidehops, neutral roll, three sidehops, two jumpslashes, untarget and hold right. At least its a clip, now if only mito skip were consistent...

now this is useless, but for anyone who wonders what volvagia looks like underground - http://www.twitch.tv/xana_anax/c/1734123 (http://www.twitch.tv/xana_anax/c/1734123)

Found something pretty neat.

Basically when you unload rooms using big sliding doors and cutscenes (such as unloading DC main room), if you open the door at the right time, you will be inside the door frame but the door will still be up. Since you are inside the door and between areas, you can create your own last entrance point. Depending on what direction and speed you leave this doorframe, link's entrance red arrow will be in the direction and location of you when you left the door frame. So you can have your last entrance from that door to be in any direction from that door and the same spot you were when the door closed. If you fall out of bounds (I used the ladder nearby to fall oob) you will respawn at that new red arrow in that direction.

Now that sounds completely pointless right? Well it turns out link can walk through ANYTHING during this entrance walking animation. That's right, you can walk through solid walls, doors, you name it. Now the only problem is this animation is very short (1-2 seconds) so you can only walk through things very close to the door. So that's how to walk through solid walls in OoT lol. Seems to be extremely limited because I think it only works in spots where you can do actor glitch and with big sliding doors (I can only think of DC and Spirit).

video: http://youtu.be/TnoX6af1sPk

EDIT: Here are two cool uses for it:
New Spirit boss Key Skip - http://youtu.be/27k7znvHYzs (without nayru's love: http://youtu.be/6B-aNC3RoGw)
DC Longshot Shortcut - http://youtu.be/-16a9gZfjXI

This glitch has accidentally happened to a few people (including me) when doing spirit actor glitch, and then falling off the statue, so you clip oob with the armos as a backup to respawn up top, which this happens and you walk out of bounds and are screwed xD. It's funny it hasn't been looked into more until now.

Wow, that's pretty cool! I hope we can find some more uses for it.

I bet there are more uses for this in MQ, since there are more opportunities for actor glitches. Like it might work with the doors in Jabu-Jabu.

HESS without water.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O79f9VpMUqo

Glad to see this game isn't completely sucked dry of new glitches yet.

Did anyone try this on console yet? I think it's worth practicing. If I ever get around to mastering it, it might be even easier for me overall than normal superslides because the roll distances for adult/child Link throw me off.

I can do it buffered and some people can get them unbuffered, JBop1626 for instance: video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIEw7SDzFVA).

I'm not sure how useful this trick is. It's the same speed as a normal super slide right?

It's not very hard on console, but it's next to useless. It's the same speed as super slide and doesn't allow for any new clips (at least, no one has found any).

Wouldn't it be faster since you don't lose any speed when turning? I can imagine it'll also save a good number of Bombs if done properly.

It also allows you to essentially superslide with bombchus :)

Correct me if I'm wrong but normally if you lose your shield in the Ganon's Tower Collapse the game crashes right?

Well for some reason this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt8grwnAYoo) happened yesterday on stream and I have no idea why.

Sometimes it doesn't crash.

I discovered a new wrong warp AND a new glitch.

I figured out that you can wrong warp to Jabu Jabu's Boss Room without soft locking by having the Requiem cutscene as your last cutscene. It's pretty interesting because the area doesn't use a

The glitch I discovered is this: When you wrong warp to a scene that normally doesn't play cutscenes, if you had any c-buttons that had useable items on them, you can equip other items that would normally be unusable and use them until you load a new scene.

In fact, this works with other cutscenes like the Ruto Cutscene; however because you have no control you can't see it normally.

So now is Megaton Hammer as a Child legit :)?

Unfortunately no. You're limited to whatever items you can already equip to the C buttons.

What do you mean by this then:


Can you also maybe give an example so I can understand how this glitch works?

I assume he means something like the ocarina or a trade item in a boss room.

RG used it in the AGDQ run to pull the ocarina immediately after ganondoor.

Random thing: It should be possible to timer WW from DC to the Deku Boss room, so you could FWWW using FW on C.

r0bd0g do this in MST :P get mirror shield before this stuff. DC --> Deku boss room, Deku ---> Spirit Boss Room----> ?????

Would there by any chance be an easy way to FWWW to the credits from the Deku or Shadow boss rooms? :P (EDIT: woops, hehehe) And I guess you'd have to set FW in a dungeon.....

well you can use the eyeball frog to warp to the credits from fire. This would be useful on 1.0/1.1 (n64 pls). Nobody has found a setup for it though and I'm pretty sure it would require the goron tunic.

Yeah, I just wanted to see if there might be a way to FWWW to the credits with FW on C like r0bd0g described, but I don't believe it would work :(. Btw, there actually is a decent setup for the eyeball frog timer warp to credits. It's used in any% no doors ;).

It should be possible to warp to the credits with FW on C. While doing Remote Control Epona, you can also use restricted items in the same way, so you can cast FW not only in dungeons but at most entrances to areas where you can use Epona. There are multiple ways to reach the credits like this. One of the more convenient ones that I see at first glace is Hyrule Field->Lake Hylia.

There's also some interesting stuff that you can warp to with FW on C like Saria's Song (Serenade->Lake Hylia) and Child Hyrule Castle (Thieves' Hideout Entrance 2->Gerudo Fortress). Possibly you could learn the Nocturne of Shadow (Street->Hyrule Field), if you can learn it from a Wrong Warp like they do on 3DS (I don't know if that's been tested on normal OoT b/c everybody always RBA's the song before WW testing).

Great! I'm gonna try this just for the heck of it lol.

Nobody's ever done the DC->Gohma warp. You'll have to make your own set-up. It's done by bottle-duping over your trade item and timer CS skipping DC. If it crashes, you will want to try different prior cutscenes. Could it be faster than BA Ganonless or Fire Temple Ganonless? IDK.

Somebody make Ganonless a legit category.

This is exactly what I was thinking lol ;D

So how would you start the WW with FW on C? Would it go something like:

-WW to dungeon with FW on B
-WW to another place using that dungeon's blue warp?