WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

[Matti]

Tunerless boss key skip for the Wind Temple: http://www.twitch.tv/ittammatti/b/333933256

Other than the storage spot it's not too hard, though there's lots of places where if you fall you have to reset to get out. To get through the door frames pillars you need to be walking at a certain speed.

[Nook]

Nice! And the idea was turned down when brought up :>

[Demon9]

I was testing the wind temple BK skip with storage some weeks ago but didn't find it that much faster and it was alot more risky, so I just ignored it. That route you got there though looks really interesting! The problem could be that the leafing part across the wind room might easily screw you up, risk VS time I guess

[Matti]

Some people in IRC seemed interested in the alternate way to get bombs early I found: http://www.twitch.tv/ittammatti/b/334017300

In order for this to work you need to have double storage, and drown within the initial cutscene's trigger area while the island is half loaded (part grey and part loaded). If you drown while the island is still in it's lowest LOD state (fully grey) then KoRL's cutscene isn't there to be stored. If the island fully loads before you drown then Quill comes in and softlocks you.

After you've done this, the remaining cutscene is still there making going back to Greatfish tricky. If you just go back to the island then the game softlocks; you can't store the rest of the cutscene. In order to get to or around the island, the only ways I've found is to grind up against the island and then drown or savewarp (reseting you on the beach).

The cutscene is also still there after coming back from Hyrule 2. I haven't actually tried to get the Greatfish shard on a file on which I've done this, though I don't see why it would be any different.

[Demon9]

This method is very interesting, alot easier to do! I will do some testing with it and it's later effects on greatfish.

[Abahbob]

Finally finished a spreadsheet of superswim velocity.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmVhHgQ1lALLdC0zMVV5b1paU1lEM1JpOTZTQ1p6a1E#gid=0

A picture of a scatter plot shows slightly more information imo. Each point is one frame: http://i.imgur.com/5jg1b.png

This is one air gauge starting from the frame you stop moving after jumping into the water.

[Razor7581]

Stumbled on something interesting today. If you get dry storage inside forest haven (on the right of the second water fall is a ledge you can hang off and get storage off of) and talk to the deku tree, the cutscene of the lily pad rising gets bugged up and so does your camera--which has no real uses except that if you try to back flip you do a gainer. Link also walks very slowly, all attacks are shortened, and you can't pause or use any items besides the sword. Might make a video sometime in the future.

[Razor7581]

Graphical Glitch & Dry Storage Spot in Forest Haven:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64StQrglSdE

[Demon9]

That's pretty wacky lol

[nathanisbored]

Is it possible to enter a lading zone at the same time the Game Over save/continue screen pops up? I know you can do death storage and fall to cancel death, but what if you choose continue as the game loads a new area, or would that even be possible? And what happens if you undo storage (by activating a cutscene such as the wind waker) after cancelling death but before the save/continue options pop up? Does it still just give you 3 hearts without reloading? It seems like this would be hard to test, but what if it's a potential wrong warp or something?

[Yashichidsf]

Death storage? I've never even heard of that. In fact, I'm fairly certain I've tried to store the death cutscene and it didn't work. Where did you hear of any of this?

[nathanisbored]

Death storage? I've never even heard of that. In fact, I'm fairly certain I've tried to store the death cutscene and it didn't work. Where did you hear of any of this?

This is what I was referring to:
http://youtu.be/eCzApHRaOFE

[nathanisbored]

Also, can you play Wind's Requiem in Hyrule? Because when you store Wind's Requiem, it allows you to move while the wind direction compass thingie is on the screen. Then if you change the wind in midair, it will cause a cutscene, but link will keep falling. If you could play that song in Hyrule, maybe you can use it jump through the barrier, though I don't think you can change the wind in Hyrule

I have noticed some other weird effects with Wind's Requiem storage, like if you change the wind while Link is swimming, he spazzes out in the water (at first I thought he was charging a superswim, but he didn't actually move). Wind's Requiem storage should be investigated more, but I supposed that would go in the storage discussion thread.

[Acryte]

No FW SS? You guys are too good man :) I'm glad WW is finally getting destroyed. Oh and sup, longtime hehe.

[Abahbob]

No FW SS? You guys are too good man I'm glad WW is finally getting destroyed. Oh and sup, longtime hehe.

Holy shit welcome back. Yeah, WW is finally getting destroyed a bit. Not quite there yet though.

Also, some real superswim data: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmVhHgQ1lALLdExsMTdrTDJTUnRpZFU1ajVHVGdTMFE#gid=0