Tricks/Glitches/Timesavers topic

[Weegeechan]

I discovered today how to cancel the end lag on most items. 

For example: All you have to do to cancel the end lag on the hammer is, use the hammer and as it's smashing down press the Quick Equip button. It will still have smashed down but cancelled the ending animation. It can even be done so quickly, that there would be no smashing effect.

It works for:
Bow
Bombs (although pretty quick anyways)
Hookshot
Fire Rod
Ice Rod
Sand Rod
Hammer
(It also works for Hint Glasses, but instead will take them off during the 'putting on' animation. So Link will not be wearing them during the animation)

You can also cancel the end lag by using Select and switching out the item with something else, but it's useless as it's not any faster.

[Weegeechan]

I found a new timesaver in Hyrule Castle today!

I found a way use an enemy and a staircase on 5F to get OoB and do a little timesaver.



Similar to the Armos room skip but instead with a soldier, you stand up against the bottom/top staircase (probably depending on what the soldier is closer to at the time) and have them run into you. After you are invinicible and the enemy is running in your body you Tornado Rod. You should get OoB and land on the tiny ledge. I'd like to note that the Soldier should be slightly above you on the staircase for this to work.

After you get on the ledge, run to the very bottom and stand underneath the floor above you. All you need to do is T-rod and you'll clip through the platform above you.



It saves some time over running around the normal way.
 
You can even merge while up there and walk around to the Bomb Soldier platform!  

[Weegeechan]

Well, found another timesaver today, but this time it's a skip for Tower of Hera.

It skips the 4F room and the platform riding section of 5F. To do it you'll need to be on 4F and have the 2nd crow follow you to the end platform.



Tornado Rod around that spot and have the crow hit you at your peak height. Link will glitch and transfer to the floor above him. You'll land on this platform specifically:



For some reason, Link gets transferred to the floor above him if he gets hurt at that height from a crow. You can do it slightly away from that spot and Link will be on 5F but do the falling animation instantly. 

[Anwonu]

Videos! Because it's easier to understand them, and I know Rheault will ask for them later. I don't have one for Hyrule Castle though; I didn't even try it too much =p

ToH skip: http://www.twitch.tv/anwonu/c/4105052
Ice skip: http://www.twitch.tv/anwonu/c/4105033

[Weegeechan]

A few days ago I found a damage technique with the crow to move up floors, but then I found a way to use it with bombs thus finding a new use for Bomb Boosting. It requires you to be in an area where you can fall from floor to floor like ToH. You stand somewhere that is close to the ceiling, place a bomb and t-rod as it's close to exploding. You'll be damaged in the air but also transfer to the floor above you. It can be used to clip through floors and skip some things in ToH.

I was testing it with Nice Bombs the whole time not thinking it would make a difference, but then later found out it did! I didn't know it but, Nice Bombs were making it easier to be hit at a higher point in your Tornado Rod flight. Normal Bombs have a shorter hitbox, so you can't get hit high enough for most of the skips to work. It is still possible to transfer to the next floor with Normal Bombs, but you won't clip through the floor. Out of all of the skips only 2 were possible with Normal Bombs. But even still, here are all the possible spots with Normal Bombs AND Nice Bombs.

NOTE: All locations work with Nice Bombs. This is meant to show what works with Normal Bombs and what only works with Nice Bombs.

Normal Bombs

1F



Although completely useless (only included for completeness), You can clip from 1F to 2F by standing on the chest on the center platform on 1F and performing a Bomb Boost.

3F



Using it on top of the small key platform near the edge, you can clip into 4F in the area pictured. You can even do it near the center of the platform and clip into the wall on 4F. From there you can T-rod up onto the 5F platform to avoid hammering down the Mole.

5F



Using it on either the red or blue pillars in that spot, you'll be clipped into the wall on 5F. From there you can skip the Stalfos fight by simply using the T-Rod and landing on the ledge above you.

NOTE: If you walk towards the Stalfos, their bodies will stay lying on the ground. Walking into one or hitting one with your sword will wake up that specific Stalfos. You can defeat them one by one this way and have the rising platform work and activate the portal like normal. If you walk towards the door after, it will close then re-open really quickly. The mini boss music will also start playing and will be overlapping the normal dungeon music until you leave the actual dungeon. Even more odd is, once the music is overlapping and you walk through the door in 7F, the fanfare music for defeating a mini boss will play. After that, no music will be playing. The entire dungeon will be silent except for the sound effects.

Alternatively, instead of hitting the lying Stalfos, you can walk to the door which will then close and the fight will activate normally.



8F



Throwing a bomb on top of the chest in the room and t-rodding will Bomb Boost you into 9F. It's useless as you can only skip the Flying Tile fight with Nice Bombs by Bomb Boosting into 8F.

Nice Bombs Only

2F



Using it on the platform with the Hardhat Beetles, you can clip into the platform with the small key. There is no void to fall into once inside and you can t-rod on top.

NOTE: Failing to land on 3F and then landing back on 2F causes a graphical glitch where everything on 1F becomes invisible. All you can see is the sky background of the dungeon. This graphical glitch is still achievable with Normal Bombs.



6F



A Bomb Boost can be done on the ledge you flew up onto so you can clip into 7F. It may or may not be faster than just hammering the Mole.

7F



You can use it on lots of different spots on the blue/red pillars and you'll get clipped into the fairy room that is 8F. This is a perfect opportunity to then restore some of your hearts if you haven't already after doing multiple Bomb Boosts.

NOTE: Failing to land in the fairy room and falling back down to 7F causes the rising platform on 6F to disappear. There will be a black hole where it was and you can actually fall through it and land on 5F. This platform glitch is still achievable with Normal Bombs.



8F



Standing in that area on 8F, you can Bomb Boost into the wall on 9F. From there you can T-Rod onto the ledge above you and skip the Flying Tile fight.

NOTE: Letting all the Tiles die and then walking to the door will make it close and then re-open really quickly.

9F



On the ledge you T-rodded on to, you can then do another Bomb Boost and get on to the cage floor on 10F. This could potentially be faster than switching out to the hammer to hit one of the Moles.

10F



You can do it once up there to skip having to hit all the switches. Instead of having to lower the Mole, you can land on the platform above you.

[KingOfHeart]

Anyone make a video of this yet(speedrun video prefered), it sounds cool... I bet it will look cool to.

[Anwonu]

RIP Ice Ruins. That's what you get for not wanting to be broken for so long Kappa
http://www.twitch.tv/anwonu/c/4113962

[KingOfHeart]

Wow, that's epic crazy.

[Weegeechan]

Just so there is no confusion, I edited my last post will all the updated info on the bomb boosting in ToH. I separated Normal Bomb/Nice Bomb locations and even found some new glitchy thing with it!

[Roadagain]

Nice going, Weegee.

Those Stalfos are fun. If you hit them with something that kills them in one hit (Like a hammer) when they're still down, they'll get up, and then walking at you won't hurt you, and anything, even weapons that deal no damage will kill them.

I have no idea how that would be useful, but it's something to keep in mind, in addition to the semi-Dharkstare skip (Since both do weird things with enemy health)


It's worth noting that I found an alternative way to do this (And it's apparently slightly less exact): You can throw a bomb to a higher platform in some cases, and then T-Rod yourself. You can get the same boost, but it's usable at different places.

For example, it let's us be very, VERY close to getting from 1F to 2F (Maybe Nice Bombs?), and you can get from 10F to 11F without lowering the mole (You can throw your bomb on the mole platform)

EDIT: Yup, Nice Bombs easily skip 1F.

[RheaultWnage]

For those who hadn't seen it yet, this is the new method for the new tricks. (And the new route for ToH if you go for them)

http://www.twitch.tv/anwonu/c/4121934

[Weegeechan]

Messing around some more with the Bomb Boosting in ToH, I found a quicker and a lot safer way to skip floors 3-6. It requires you to only have to do the Bomb Boost on 3F thus making this method less risky.

Start it by doing this Bomb Boost set up:



You'll clip into the wall above you on 4F. From there, t-rod once and you'll land in the wall on 5F.



There is no void up there and you can walk around a certain area. Using the map up there, position yourself here:



(I only used 6F because I found it easier to position myself. You can just use 5F's and it will be the same location).

When walking over to that spot, it's possible to walk too far and clip outside. If you do that accidentally, you'll fall. Luckily though, if you do clip outside, you can quickly walk back where you came from and avoid falling. I wouldn't worry too much about clipping outside as the set up for this is pretty easy.

But anyways, once in that spot you can t-rod and land on 6F on the bottom floor. Quickly T-rod again to land on the top platform because if you take too long, you'll fall into void.



Simply T-rod again and you'll be on 7F.



Sadly, you can't land on the top wall of 7F as you could the others because above you in 8F, there is no floor. BUT, I believe there still is a way to move up the floors from here. You can walk along the inside of the walls in 7F and can walk far enough out of them to clip outside. I have a theory that you could be clipped in a wall and be standing on one of the blue/red pillars against the wall. Shoot at one of the switches to raise the pillar to gain some height OoB. From there, clip to the outside and immediately T-rod to land on the next wall. This could potentially work as 7F is a special floor that is possible to get to 2 different floors (8F,9F).

[RheaultWnage]

Once again very nice find weegee.

I played a bit with it just now and managed to get all the way up to 9F without moving much from that one corner. I'll try to see if I can get further.

EDIT: Made it to 10F. That one is useless unless we are able to get up higher.

EDIT: Anwonu made it to the Big Key chest.

[shadowlink]

Sweet find

[RheaultWnage]

Here's Anwonu's highlight of the new ToH route: http://www.twitch.tv/anwonu/c/4126999

It saves approximately 35-40 seconds over the route with the Crow Skip. He timed different routes (including one that skipped doing the 10F switches room) and this one ended up being the fastest. (One that was clipping back inbound was about the same, but you still had to do the tiles room and.... yeah no Kappa)

With this recent stuff and the trick that Linkshot found to skip part of 1F, it is now possible to beat Tower Of Hera without merging a single time. This means that we can beat ToH before we even enter Eastern Palace.