any% SS soft resets

[Maxx]

It's pretty obvious how much faster the SS could be with soft resets (Bombchus? Hover Boots?! Meeting Zelda?!?!), and that's just counting the one.  What kind of a route do you think any% SS with resets could have?  Is it the same as any% seg?  What tricks aren't really worth it in SS?  Which forest escape should be used?  Where should savewarping be used aside from the obvious ToT?

Seems like a fast way to start would be Sword/Shield, pokey escape, Peahat SS to LH, Scarecrow, Gold Scale, Ruto's Bottle (show to KZ), then Owl to Castle (or maybe savewarp after KZ?).  Any other ideas for changes from SS?

[Lexkeeta]

didnt i make this thread before of something?

i dont remember

[Maxx]

Yeah, looks like you did.  I was thinking this as an actual category, though, rather than just a casual run.

I'll check out your thread for route ideas.

[Runnerguy2489]

For reference

The two are actually different as Maxx is using as many resets as necessary where Lex planned to use just the one (I think).

[Lexkeeta]

i changed my route a bit actually. ill post it here tomorrow.

and i may do the run if im able to get a cheap s-video and borrow my friends comp

so i guess it wouldnt be casual also cuz i made it harder ... w/e tho

[aleckermit]

I'm game for attempting an SS run for SDA, I have a TV capture device now. I'm not smart with routes so I would need help with the SS route...

[Maxx]

I'm game for attempting an SS run for SDA, I have a TV capture device now. I'm not smart with routes so I would need help with the SS route...

SDA won't accept hard or soft resets in a Single Segment, meaning you need Hover Boots before becoming an adult, so you can reverse DoT skip.  It ends up being quite a bit different than the segmented any%.

Pokey has been working on this category for a while, and the most current discussion and route are in this thread:
http://forums.zeldaspeedruns.com/index.php?topic=7.0

[aleckermit]

Hmmm. Well if noone ends up working on it I'll take it up.

[aleckermit]

Here's a RBA with soft resets route I came up with:


-Get 20 rupees, get Sword and EQUIP
-Get 7 rupees from garden, 5 from behind house, 2 in grass, 5 from jump, 5 from store (44r)
-Buy Shield and EQUIP (4r)
-Get 5 rupees from jump, 1 from grass, 10 from house chests (20r)
-Pokey Escape, get Ocarina
-Backwalk to Hylia, EQUIP Ocarina C-D on the way
-Learn Scarecrow's song
-Go to pond to get Gold scale (0r)
-Dive for Ruto Bottle, Warp to ZD
-EQUIP Bottle C-L
-Show bottle to King Zora
-SAVE RESET

-Pokey Escape
-Go to market bridge
-40 rupees from chains (40r)
-DoT skip
-SAVE RESET

-Go to Kakariko
-Get pocket egg
-Got to graveyard and EQUIP Bottle C-L
-Catch Bugs
-Get Hylian Shield
-Dampe's Grave Race
-EQUIP Hookshot C-L, EQUIP Shield
-SAVE RESET

-Go to Lake Hylia
-Learn Scarecrow song
-Play song to get to fishing pond
-Steal rod (20r)
-Go into water above waterfall, walk left out of water and EQUIP Bugs C-R then C-D (Hookshot, Bugs, Bombs)
-SAVE RESET

-Go passed bridge before Kakariko
-Drop bugs, pick them back up
-Go towards stairs, backflip and do Bottle B
-Wait for daylight, enter Kakariko
-EQUIP Cucco C-D then C-R (Hookshot, Bombs, Cucco)
-Drop B Bugs and catch
-Wake up Talon
-Show cucco to Lady, get Cojiro
-Drop B bugs and catch
-Go to Dampe's Grave and get 15 Bombs
-SS attempt to LW Bridge (14 bombs)
-Pressure Jump (12 Bombs)
-Exchange Cojiro for mushroom
-Go to Goron City Warp, Bomb rocks (11 Bombs)
-Hookshot out of Goron City
-Get a heart from a rock outside of Goron City
-Down DM and enter Kakariko
-Buy 10 arrows (0r)
-Roof trick to old hag, exchange mushroom for potion
-SS attempt to LW Bridge (10 Bombs)
-Pressure jump (8 Bombs)
-Exchange potion for saw
-Warp to Goron City and hookshot out
-Go up DM
-Blow up one rock (7 Bombs)
-SS attempt through falling rocks (6 Bombs)
-Climb to top
-Bomb Fairy wall (5 bombs)
-Drop B Bugs and catch.
-Backflip and play ZL with Bomb for Great Fairy (4 Bombs)
-SAVE RESET

-SS attempt to Gerudo area (3 Bombs)
-EQUIP BUGS C-D
-Bridge Skip
-Exchange Saw for broken knife
-Drop Bugs and do Bottle B and catch
-SAVE RESET

-LIGHT ARROW CUTSCENE
-Go to Ganon's Castle
-Equip Light Arrows C-L
-Trial Skip
-Single-cycle Ganondorf
-Escape
-SS into Ganon (0 Bombs)

WIN

[RingRush]

Reset times do count towards the run.

I'm thinking no fairy might be better, since that saves a fair ammount of time. It is just a matter of confidence in the fighting ability of the runner. I'll look at the rest of the route in detail later...

[aleckermit]

Reset times do count towards the run.

I'm thinking no fairy might be better, since that saves a fair amount of time. It is just a matter of confidence in the fighting ability of the runner. I'll look at the rest of the route in detail later...

In that case I'll definitely do it on N64.... And yeah I agree, I can do without the fairy.

EDIT: I've officially started practicing for this soft reset run, expect it see it within the month of January. Hoping for a sub 1h25m

[aleckermit]

Just to show I'm serious about the run and am working on it, here's a short work-in-progress video. It goes from the start to the ToT in 13m23s. This is the one and only WIP I'll be releasing. Feel free to comment or give suggestions on it. After finishing a few practice runs, I think sub-1:20 is no problem whatsoever.


I compressed it to a very small size(49mb) so it will download fast:

http://www.mediafire.com/?4xwy2jxkyzi

[Runnerguy2489]

Looks good.

[aleckermit]

I just finished a recorded any% SS Soft Reset Run(or Real Time Attack run) in 1:13:28. It's quite flawed but still a decent run. I will be submitting the run here, on the main ZSR site. I'll work on beating it in the future, but I'll submit this for now until someone beats it or if I beat it by a decent margin. The mistakes are pretty funny. The most important thing was it was a blast to play, and the final blow against Ganon was one of the most satisfying feelings ever.

Thanks to all that helped.

EDIT: I've decided to not submit the run and will continue to attempt to improve it. I know I can get a ~1:10 easily. I Just have to be patient. When I re-watched the run I realized how bad it was and how much more I could improve it. It's getting easier every time I attempt it, so I expect a great run within a month or so.

[Runnerguy2489]

Awesome! Can't wait to see it. And lol you beat that segmented 1:14 run.