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Author Topic: OoT3D: 100% Segmented Discussion [NG+ Saw]  (Read 145410 times)
Nook
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« on: June 07, 2012, 02:05:12 PM »

Separated from our already complete Child 1. In the case of it being slower, we can return to Hammer NG+ discussion.

Segment 1:
- Kokiri Sword
- 30 Rupees [30 Rupees]
- Fairy Ocarina
- Gate Rupees [70 Rupees]
- Weird Egg
- Zelda's Sleepy Song
- Trade for Broken Sword
- Equip Kokiri Sword
- Cucco Empty Bottle
- Impa's House HP [3.25 <3s]
- Sun's Song
- Bugs from Graveyard Entrance
- Saria's Song
- Save and Quit

Segment 2:
- Buy Deku Shield [10 Rupees]
- Goron Bracelet
- Open Cavern
- Over Cavern HP [3.5 <3s]
- Dirt GS [1 Token]
- Enter Cavern
- Save and Quit

Segment 3:
- Dodongo's Cavern 100% [4 Tokens, 4.5 <3s]
- Equip Shield
- To Dodongo's Cavern
- Save and Quit

Segment 4:
- To Death Mountain Trail
- Superslides up to the Great Fairy of Power
- To Death Mountain Crater
- Crate GS [5 Tokens]
- Catch grotto Bugs
- Cliff HP [4.75 <3s]
- Double Magic
- To Goron City
- Big Bomb Bag
- Dancing Jar HP [5 <3s]
- Boulder Room GS [6 Tokens] & Purple Rupee [80 Rupees]
- To Death Mountain Trail
- Alcove GS outside of Kakariko [7 Tokens]
- To Kakariko, Night
- Bazaar Wall GS [8 Tokens]
- Tree GS [9 Tokens]
- Brick Stack GS [10 Tokens]
- House of Skulltula GS [11 Tokens]
- Adult Wallet
- To Zora's River
- Tree GS [12 Tokens]
- Buy 2 Beans [50 Rupees]
- Platform HP [5.25 <3s]
- Cucco/Megaflip HP next to Waterfall [5.5 <3s]
- Make it night
- Jumpslash or bomb ladder for GS [13 Tokens]
- Enter Zora's Domain
- Silver Scale
- Torch HP [5.75 <3s]
- To Lake Hylia
- Drop bugs in Laboratory soil, get GS [14 Tokens]
- Scarecrow's Song
- Bomb GS behind Laboratory, jump for it [15 Tokens]
- Letter Bottle
- Fishing game HP [6 <3s]
- To Zora's River
- Catch Fish
- To Zora's Fountain
- Tree GS [16 Tokens]
- Farore's Wind
- Feed Lord Jabu Jabu the fish
- Enter Inside Lord Jabu Jabu's Belly
- Save & Quit

Segment 5:
- Inside Jabu Jabu's Belly 100% [20 Tokens, 7 <3s]
- To Lost Woods
- Catch 2 Bugs
- Clearing soil GS [21 Tokens]
- Plant a Magic Bean
- Leave and Reenter Lost Woods
- Saria's Song with Skull Kid HP [7.25 <3s]
- Bridge soil GS [22 Tokens]
- Deku Stick Upgrade [10 Rupees]
- Save and Quit

Segment 6:
- Enter Inside the Deku Tree
- Save and Quit

Segment 7:
- Inside the Deku Tree 100% [26 Tokens, 8.25 <3s]
- Save and Quit

Segment 8:
- To Lost Woods
- Slingshot Upgrade 1
- Jam Session HP [8.5 <3s]
- Catch grotto bugs
- To Goron City -> Death Mountain Trail -> Kakariko, Night
- Ladder GS [27 Tokens]
- Roof HP [8.75 <3s]
- Redead Rupee Grotto [60 Rupees]
- To Graveyard
- Dampe's Tour HP [9 <3s]
- Wall GS [28 Tokens]
- Soil GS [29 Tokens]
- To Kakariko
- Enter Bottom of the Well
- Save and Quit

Segment 9:
- Bottom of the Well 100% [32 Tokens, Yellow Rupee $$$]
-Save & Quit

Segment 10:
- To Hyrule Field
- Ocarina of Time
- To Lon Lon Ranch, Night
- Window GS [33 Tokens]
- Tree GS [34 Tokens]
- Corral GS [35 Tokens]
- Fence GS [36 Tokens]
- Crates HP [9.25 <3s]
- To Hyrule Field
- Guardhouse GS [37 Tokens]
- Chest Game HP [9.5 <3s]
- Dog HP [9.75 <3s]
- Bombchu Bowling HP [10 <3s]
- Bombchu Bowling Biggest Bomb Bag (5 Bs!)
- Slingshot Upgrade
- To Hyrule Castle
- Tree GS [38 Tokens]
- Din's Fire
- To Market -> Temple of Time
- Let Ganondorf into the Sacred Realm
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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2012, 10:48:05 PM »

Looks great Tom! Looks like you've tested it as well. Only thing I have to say is that we should get Deku Shield in Cavern

Segment 4 Shocked
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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2012, 10:49:39 PM »

Thanks, after Segment 4 we get a break. I didn't think anyone would oppose the save after DC :} we're getting the Hyrule GSs in trip two when we have the sword. I have thought about the shield, it's cheaper (I believe), it'd shorten the segment, and the trip back through SFM + the other side of the cavern would probably be the same as going through Kokiri.

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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2012, 11:09:40 PM »

You know, I just realized this. No one besides you, me, and stabled are going to compete for this WR. Unless someone new to the site becomes interested...

Anyhoo, it turns out I didn't save at all during the segment that I beat the game in my 100% glitchless file, so now I need to get a buttload of Skulltulas, HPs, do Adult Spirit (and get Biggest Quiver so I can do Saw NG+) and then Shadow (always done it in Medallion order Tongue) and beat Ganon AGAIN before I can make a NG+ with Saw. I screwed up my previous 100% file with a Bottle on B save (lost my bombs Shocked), so I want to make sure I've beaten the game so that it doesn't happen again. After I have that done, I'll make a file and catch up to you so I can help.
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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2012, 12:06:29 AM »

Rather than a competition I propose that we do a team run. We would include our item numbers after each segment, and if the time changes we play the sun's song before the end of the segment prior to saving, and the player for the following segment does the same. If it would work I think it would be real fun :]
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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2012, 12:51:25 AM »

I like that, but we all need to be able to record. I can as long as I have permission to use my mom's iPad.

How good are you at text and sidehopping? I have a rhythm figured out for text, but sometimes I don't always get the first few boxes. I'm totally beast at sidehopping though. Grin Superswim will be essential at Lake Hylia and it's pretty easy to do it off a megaflip/megahop. I think you should start it. If anyone knows the technique for 15 second KD, they can take DC, otherwise I'll do it since I'm so boss at hellfire skip. I'm also up for seg 4 if no one else wants it. Smiley

I'm doing Adult Spirit right now. Was practicing my sidehopping on Death Mountain for like a half hour... I think I play this game too much...

EDIT: Forgot to mention this in the other thread: When we do ItDT, we can do the megahop, jump onto the vines and go through the crawlspace. The webs have no collision on the side we come from so we can burn it coming back from the GS.
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« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2012, 06:32:34 PM »

You know, I just realized this. No one besides you, me, and stabled are going to compete for this WR. Unless someone new to the site becomes interested...
Ill probably join too, but i need to finish my ganonless speedrun first unless Tom does it first and i still need a way to record 40 min. Sigh Sad
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« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2012, 10:34:43 PM »

Wow, came together quite consistently with Hammer NG+, with 10 <3s and I think the GS count is about the same as well. Well done, Tom! I'll try to get a near-perfect Hammer run and post that time, then we can start the segment timing and compare times. We may not have to record, although I'd prefer it so I can see everyone's strengths and weaknesses (i.e. who's good/bad at HESSing where they want to go, good/bad at sidehopping, etc.) to help with deciding who does which segment. This is probably faster than Hammer...

EDIT: Hammer can't go to waste, I'll convert it to max% child or something like that. It's just such a timesink and it's fun to boot.

EDIT2: Which Forest Escape? you don't specify.
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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2012, 11:03:59 PM »

I can do all of that as long as I practice the segment. Side hopping is pretty easy, supersliding is as well as long as you practice the area to go through. I do take more of a shining to non-dungeon segments, so I'll offer for any of those that are open more often than not.
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« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2012, 11:20:23 PM »

All right. I'm really good at pretty much everything (including text) except for HESS and ISG. I'm open for anything, but prefer either dungeons (except for IJJB) or long segments. My sidehopping is basically frame-perfect, and I know the game inside and out.

We should all subscribe to each other so we know when people have uploaded new segments. I'll be closing my current YouTube account soon to match my name here, I'll tell you guys when I do.
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« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2012, 02:48:30 AM »

Tom, if you want me to take over routing here so you can work on TWW, I will. I need to find a list of HPs and GSs though...

So, once again we must needs debate on Adult dungeon order. I forget whether or not we planted GY bean, but we need to if that HP is gonna be convenient. I've been trying to get up there with chu boosts to no avail. If we're doing Shadow Early, that HP is a MUST.

Give Broken Sword to Biggoron after Fire, then get Eyeball Frog after Ice Cavern and TSC to Lake Hylia (that's gonna take some practice on my part... Undecided). I guess we ride Epona or bombslide back to Kakariko. I think they're the same speed. DAMN this NG+ rules!

Hopefully TaylorTotFTW will join us as well. Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2012, 02:52:43 AM »

You can stand on the fence and hookshot through the corner of the wall to the box for that heart piece.

ALTHOUGH, if you plan on getting ISG for shadow early, refilling your health right before is silly. Grab it after shadow early.
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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2012, 03:33:28 AM »

Norkix you can take it yes. gamestabled you're right about the trick Greenalink discovered, should have elaborated in the route I guess. There's also a jumpslash clip for Zora's Domain -> Hylia that is much easier than the TSC, CloudMax has a video.
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« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2012, 03:36:54 AM »

Hopefully TaylorTotFTW will join us as well. Smiley

Hell yeah. Just tell me what to do and I'll do it  Grin
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« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2012, 03:54:32 AM »

Tell us your strengths and weaknesses and what kind of segments you're willing to run
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