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Author Topic: Noob trying to get into MM running  (Read 42301 times)
HiipFire
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« on: May 09, 2012, 11:46:22 PM »

Hey, could anyone introduce into running this game?
Like help me instead of just dumping all the information on me.
Thanks in advance.
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Norkix
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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2012, 12:31:35 AM »

Hey there HiipFire. I'm a fellow rookie (been here since mid-February), but I do have quite a lot of experience with MM. Here's what I did when I first started speedrunning.

First off, choose the version you feel most comfortable with. For me, this was N64, but it may be different for you. I will say that N64 has the advantage of easy HESS (Hyper Extended Super Slide), but it's totally up to you.
Second, practice practice practice for hours before you even start an attempt. Look over the tricks in the run and practice them on a completed file over and over until you get at least a 1 in 3 consistency with them. If you dont know how to do a trick, most of them have a page on ZSR, others can be found on YouTube. Practice is key.
Third, watch previous runs of the route you're going to attempt. This will show you timesavers that may not be told in the route. After learning the timesavers, practice them as well. Timesavers are generally easier to master than tricks, but a few are just as difficult.
When you start the run, it is important to remain calm. Don't worry about the timer, just play through the route. If you're worrying about the timer, you'll start trying to do things too quickly. Believe me, I speak from experience. Speedrunning takes patience and control. If you're getting stressed, take a break and listen to some music or watch something funny to help you calm down. Stress will make you sloppy (again, I speak from experience).

Welcome to ZSR, man. I look forward to seeing your work Smiley
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11:17 <Cosmo>: It's hard to tell what ASAP means with todays sequence breaks
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2012, 12:33:36 AM »

I'm ingx24 and I approve of SamusXLink's post. Smiley
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Kaztalek
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2012, 01:15:09 AM »

just take the inside
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Norkix
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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2012, 02:23:39 AM »

Keeta, what does that even mean? If I don't understand, HiipFire won't either.
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11:17 <Cosmo>: It's hard to tell what ASAP means with todays sequence breaks
HiipFire
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2012, 05:15:34 AM »

Thanks. I'll do that.
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2012, 05:43:13 AM »

Hey there HiipFire. I'm a fellow rookie (been here since mid-February), but I do have quite a lot of experience with MM. Here's what I did when I first started speedrunning.

First off, choose the version you feel most comfortable with. For me, this was N64, but it may be different for you. I will say that N64 has the advantage of easy HESS (Hyper Extended Super Slide), but it's totally up to you.
Second, practice practice practice for hours before you even start an attempt. Look over the tricks in the run and practice them on a completed file over and over until you get at least a 1 in 3 consistency with them. If you dont know how to do a trick, most of them have a page on ZSR, others can be found on YouTube. Practice is key.
Third, watch previous runs of the route you're going to attempt. This will show you timesavers that may not be told in the route. After learning the timesavers, practice them as well. Timesavers are generally easier to master than tricks, but a few are just as difficult.
When you start the run, it is important to remain calm. Don't worry about the timer, just play through the route. If you're worrying about the timer, you'll start trying to do things too quickly. Believe me, I speak from experience. Speedrunning takes patience and control. If you're getting stressed, take a break and listen to some music or watch something funny to help you calm down. Stress will make you sloppy (again, I speak from experience).

Welcome to ZSR, man. I look forward to seeing your work Smiley
In all seriousness, this is an awesome post. Pretty much everything SXL covered are important concepts to remember when speed running any game.
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HiipFire
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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2012, 02:39:05 PM »

I can't seem to be able to pull of ISG, is there something different you have to do on a PAL N64?
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Norkix
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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2012, 03:32:58 PM »

ISG is all about timing. I'm not sure if there's anything special on PAL, (myself playing on NTSC-U) but I find that I can always get it if I press A while Link is bringing the sword back in from the crouch stab. I find that most people trying to do ISG for the first time tend to immediately press A or press A too late.

Hope I helped ^_^

Just a recommendation: you should try to get your hands on an NTSC N64 and copy of the game. Speedrunning on PAL is going to be very difficult. As long as the console/game have been used before, you should be able to get them at a reasonable price.
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HiipFire
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« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2012, 04:56:21 PM »

ISG is all about timing. I'm not sure if there's anything special on PAL, (myself playing on NTSC-U) but I find that I can always get it if I press A while Link is bringing the sword back in from the crouch stab. I find that most people trying to do ISG for the first time tend to immediately press A or press A too late.

Hope I helped ^_^

Just a recommendation: you should try to get your hands on an NTSC N64 and copy of the game. Speedrunning on PAL is going to be very difficult. As long as the console/game have been used before, you should be able to get them at a reasonable price.
How am i supposed to play a NTSC game on a PAL console?
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Norkix
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« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2012, 05:52:46 PM »

Quote from: SamusXLink
get your hands on an NTSC N64 and a copy of the game
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HiipFire
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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2012, 06:29:51 PM »


Sorry didn't read properly, my bad.
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Norkix
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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2012, 02:15:55 AM »

It's fine man, I do that sometimes too. It was just a suggestion anyways. You don't need to, but a lot of the PAL players here have gotten NTSC consoles just for speedrunning. It's still possible to speedrun on PAL.

Good luck with ISG! Smiley
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BottlesFTW
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« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2012, 07:05:24 AM »

If you have a wii, it would be better and cheaper for you to just hack your wii and play ntsc mm on it. Playing on the N64 version will always put you at a disadvantage because of the lag and slower loading times.
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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2012, 08:02:01 AM »

just take the inside
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