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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2010, 08:08:23 PM » |
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well, after trying these bomb hovers as child and realizing how ridiculously hard they are i'm seriously considering splitting segment 10 into 2 segments for the void hover. doing just a few of these bomb hovers in a row is hard enough; asking me to do 9 of them after doing the entire dungeon all in one segment is just too much.
thoughts?
Where exactly would you split the segment?
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I for one think that there are no glitches in OoT. It's just gameshark codes. RBA stands for Rare Bird Adventure. We call it that because we need to get the blue cucco in order to use it.
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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2010, 08:19:06 PM » |
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Where exactly would you split the segment?
basically, right after getting bombs i would hit the switch to raise the platform and save, then next seg i'd ride the platform up and megaflip into the skull, then oob hover, kd, etc.
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« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2010, 11:16:06 PM » |
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I for one think that there are no glitches in OoT. It's just gameshark codes.
RBA stands for Rare Bird Adventure. We call it that because we need to get the blue cucco in order to use it.
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« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2010, 11:30:54 PM » |
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<complex> byan you're doing that thing again <complex> the thing where everything you say is fucking retarded <ethandude> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual cheak this out luxury it might come in helpful when u wright your resime
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« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2010, 02:23:58 AM » |
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Where is ssbmproHRC?
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« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2010, 10:42:04 PM » |
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im right here lol
so the new route is faster by some frames, yes, but i guess its not too much of a deal if go ahead with the old one. i probably start working on it next week again.
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« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2010, 12:28:14 AM » |
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The new route is faster by at least five minutes...more when we incorporate the new well chus and Odd Mush cutscene skip for Forest Temple (we get requiem as child so we can plant bean...but now we already have explosives by the fortress). It is hardly "frames".
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« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2010, 05:47:34 AM » |
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Edit: SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT I, RingRush, hit the wrong button and edited your post instead of posting my own reply :X. If someone still has the page open, can they send me the text so I can restore this post. IIRC, his post talked about how requiem was a long cutscene and TASers found out that collosus is faster as adult. Furthermore, he posted a dummy route of the child section that the TAS would use, and maybe console.
The following is what I responded: Grunz - a while ago we agreed that console should do DC as child for bombs. Furthermore, this makes it so child is slightly faster, or at least equivalent to adult in getting to the collosus. The associated time loss from requiem cutscene, bean planting, bean buying, and playing requiem should more than make up for the faster Spirit Temple.
I didn't realize Odd Mushroom timer warp required a bottle...I thought you could just wait the time down normally. If it requires a bottle, then yes, skip it. If not, I definitely think it would be faster, and give more of a reason for child to head to Gerudo Valley.
The only complication may be day/night cycles. Until someone tests, we can't accurately account for these.
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« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2010, 12:32:41 PM » |
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someone write a new route for this shit
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« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2010, 07:19:02 PM » |
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Yeah this route is way outdated with the new well chus. I might fix it up later...unless I see any new changes or there were other tricks discovered since then, the only changes would be in the child route.
Edit: Oh yeah, SS into tree was also found after this route, and maybe more tricks. I'll evaluate it more closely later.
Edit2: And now that we get chus before desert, it may be worth timing getting the odd mush chest so we can skip the Forest Temple completion cutscene like in 100%. Ah, so many new possibilities!
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« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2010, 07:03:56 AM » |
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Okay, so i've decided to take HRC's place and start this MST segmented run.
I'm messing with the route at the time, but i'm haveing some trouble filling out the blanks, i hope some of you out there can help me
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---= Ocarina of Time MST segmented Speedrun =---
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Segment 1: - Pause #1 Just save
Segment 2: - 21 Rupees (21R) - Kokiri sword - Pause #2 Save
Segment 3: - 29 Rupees (50R) - Buy Deku shield (10R) - Buy Deku Stick (0R) - Pause #3 Eguip Sword, Shield and Deku stick - Grunz escape (Pokey escape if to difficult) - Fairy Ocarina - Skip owl - WESS to Kakariko - Gather 4Cuccos - Cucco ISG dive - Enter Well - Pause #4 Save
Segment 4: - Pokey strats past Skulltula - Get Deku stick (2DS) - get 1 key - Actor glitch - Kill Dead hand 1 cycle - skulltula vine clip - Chu's - Pause #5 equip chu's| save
Segment 5: - Exit well - Rest of the Cucco's - Get Cucco bottle - Get bugs under rock - Exit Kakariko - Hylian field - Zora's River - Blow up boulder (9Chu) - Grab Cucco - Buy a bean (89R) - enter Zora's Domine - Break jar for Nuts (5DN) - Break jar for Stick (3DS) - Megasidehop past KZ (8Chu) - Jabu Early - Pause #6 equip Nuts and Bugs| Save
Segment 6: - Chu switch (7Chu) - Ruto CS - Normal to boomerang - Use 2 Nuts boomerang room - Pause #7: equip Boomerang over Nuts| Save / if you chu switch in next segment just save
Segment 7: - Boomerang switch - Chu megaflip to Switch (6Chu) - IO switch - Boomerang switch _ / _ if have spare chu, then Chu switch - Pause #8: equip Nuts, Stick and boomerang - Barrinade pick up HC: (4 hearts) - pause #9: Save
Segment 8: - Pokey escape - Skip owl - Peahat superslide to GV - Cucco jump - Go in fortress - Pause #10: Equip beans| Save
Segment 9: - Gate skip - Backwalk over Quicksand - Cross haunted wasteland - Desert Colosses - Plant bean - Go in Spirit Temple - Leave again - Get requiem - Pause #11 Equip Chu| Save
Segment 10: - Pokey Escape - Peahat superslide to Market - Buy shield (9R) - Enter Castle - Talk to owl - take damage from Skulltula (1 heart left) - Seam walk to Talon - Chu damage boost over moat (5Chu) - Avoid cheating guards - Zelda - ZL cutscene skip (4Chu) - talk to imba - enter Market - to ToT - DoT skip - Adult Cs - Pause #12 Save
this is just a portion of my Route, but i'm haveing some trouble getting to Castle in the last segment becouse it's turned nighttime when i tested my route.
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« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2010, 06:03:30 PM » |
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Okay, so i've decided to take HRC's place and start this MST segmented run.
Cool. I like this category so seeing a run of it would be nice. Segment 3: - 29 Rupees (50R) - Buy Deku shield (10R) - Buy Deku Stick (0R) - Pause #3 Eguip Sword, Shield and Deku stick - Grunz escape (Pokey escape if to difficult) - Fairy Ocarina - Skip owl - WESS to Kakariko - Gather 4Cuccos - Cucco ISG dive - Enter Well - Pause #4 Save
You buy a stick and owl skip; and then get another stick in botw. Do you need 2? You also skip the owl again later (and would have to do it a 3rd time) so I'm not sure it's worth it to get the extra 10 rupees and watch the deku stick text. You may also want to entertain the idea of deku shield from botw if you plan to Grunz escape. I'd at least test it. this is just a portion of my Route, but i'm haveing some trouble getting to Castle in the last segment becouse it's turned nighttime when i tested my route.
It is possible, both with peahat superslide and with a chuslide. If you can spare a chu it might be worth using one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJx7FXJBLqAGood luck! I don't know too much about this route so maybe someone more knowledgeable can work out some other route issues with you.
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runnerguy your such a mother fucker. whats with all this bombchu shit? all everyone who likes this shit is stupid. ur a fucking cheater. u did that the wrong way, thats not how to get past the king zora u cheater. u suck and i wont continue watching all ur shit! videos.
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« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2010, 06:05:05 PM » |
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I actually wouldn't suggest going to Spirit as child. With the new hover tricks, it is possible to skip planting the bean and still be faster. Furthermore, the Requiem cutscene lasts around a minute, so skipping that saves time. Last but not least, adult has bombs to superslide around the desert, outweighing any time saved because child has a faster gate skip.
There are more things I would suggest changing in this route, but instead of listing them all, I'm just going to write a route later today. If I'm in IRC and not writing the route, someone bug me until I start.
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« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2010, 03:35:27 AM » |
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- Break jar for Stick (3DS)
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« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2010, 03:59:58 AM » |
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Okay, I retooled the route as follows. Some things that need discussion/timing 1) Hylian Shield from market or graveyard 2) Deku Shield from shop or well 3) Any better places for bomb drops? Better places to add tricks like Superslides?
Before it comes up, I'm fairly certain Forest Temple CS skip is not worth it. The full cutscene is about 3:14, but to CS skip it would require A] Watching the minuet CS, B] Getting a bottle, C] Performing the CS skip trick, D] Getting Sun's Song, E] Doing the trading quest (Odd Mush as child is -not- faster, I thought that over a fair ammount before starting), F] Sacrificing the warp to the Deku Tree after the cutscene. The time loss from all of those combined is just too much.
MST Segmented Route v 5.0 (?) REMINDER: THIS ROUTE IS NOT TESTED FOR DAY/NIGHT CYCLES
Segment 1: Intro Sword + Rupees Save, equip sword
Segment 2: To shop + rupees Shield Pause: Equip Deku Shield WESS escape Fairy Ocarina WESS in Hyrule Field Cucco dive to well Save
Segment 3: Past skulltula with pokey strats Deku Stick from pot Actor glitch Dead Hand + 99 Rupee chest (99 R) Vine clip to Bombchus (10 C) Equip bombchus on C-Right,Save
Segment 4: Exit well To Zora’s River Knock down GS and HESS past rocks Keep on ascendin’ Cucco past waterfall Pot o’ nuts Megasidehop past Fatass (9 C) Jabu early jumpslash Equip Deku Nuts on C-left, Save
Segment 5: Chu first switch (8 C) Ruto Back up to the entry level, using Ruto on switchs To Boomerang Pause, equip boomerang on C-down Bring Ruto back to second room Ruto throw Megaflip after her (7 C) Place Ruto on switch, to next room Chu switch and enter boss room (6 C) Pause, equip Deku Sticks on C-right Stick it to the man (also boomerang it to him) Get HC, take blue warp (4 H) Equip Chu on C-right, Save
Segment 6: WESS escape again Peahat SS to market To castle Damage self thrice with GS Get over the moat with damage boostin’ (5 C) Get past the TSDA clones Lullaby with cutscene skip (4 C) Re-enter market Hylian Shield from bazaar [19 R] To Temple of Time DoT skipz Hit puberty Equip chus on C-down, equip Hylian Shield, Save
Segment 7: To Hyrule Field To Kakariko Village To Graveyard To Hookshot To Chu SS warp to seam (3 C) Equip Hookshot on C-left, Save in Shadow Temple
Segment 8: Hookshot first gap Truth Spinner To Hover Boots Equip Hover Boots, Save
Segment 9: Backwalk hover past the first two gaps Pause, equip Kokiri Boots Acute angle Jslash Boat Small Key & Boss Key Chu Pillar (2 C) Hover Boot across the invisible floor room Get lucky and kill Bongo Bongo + HC (5 H) [Skip this HC if you can 2 cycle Volvagia w/ bk skip using only 8 hearts] Back to Kakriko Up to DM, enter DC Save
Segment 10: Blow up first wall (1 C) Jump to first switch Chu staircase (0 C) Pause, equip bombs on C-down To Bomb bag (20 B) Bomb eyes (18 B) Enter mouth Jump to block, push it into hole Bomb floor above KD (17 B) Two-cycle KD (15 B) Goron’s Ruby, get HC (6 H) Up DM to magic (use seam + superslide, use Ocarina bomb trick while blowing up rock before fountain) (12 B) Megaflip down, Bolero CS skip (10 B) Megaflip again, head to Goron City (9 B) Hookshot up, blow up rocks (Ocarina trick to take 5.5 H damage) (8 B) Through Lost Woods, megaflip or HESS somewhere (7 B) GJ to of maze (6 B) Minuet CS skip (5 B) Play Minuet Hookshot up to Forest Save
Segment 11: Typical Forest route to bow (someone flesh this out, I’m lazy) (2 B) Save
Segment 12: BK skip Phanton Gantom Get Heart Container and blue warp (7 H) SS clip into Deku tree (1 B) Equip Deku Nuts on C-right, Save
Segment 13: Hook to the top Jump down + jslash reflection + web clip Kill all scrubs Now that you are an adult, show Gohma your nuts HC and blue warp (8 H) Save
Segment 14: Exit market SS to Hylia (0 B) One spinslash, 3 bomb drops (15 B) House clip and to Water Equip Hover Boots, Bow on C-right, Save
Segment 15: Hoverslide to far edge (14 B) Water BK skp (9 B) Morfaaa Heart Container and Water Medallin (9 H) Superswim to Fire Arrows (8 B) Superswim back to shore (7 B) Three bomb drops from grass (20 B) To field SS --> ESS to desert (19 B) Hoverslide across bridge (18 B) To GV Save in fortress
Segment 16: Get caught, Hoverslide gateskip (17 B) Through the desert (add in an ESS somewhere(16 B) Hover up to Seam outside of Spirit Temple (3 B) Hookshot up to Silver Gauntlets chest SS across to Mirror Shield (2 B) Pause, equip Fire Arrows on C-right and Mirror Shield Anubis + Beamos room [bomb drop from beamos] (6 B) Hookshot clip face (5 B) Spirit BK skip (2 B) Twinrova + no HC Equip Ocarina on C-right, Save
Segment 17: Play Bolero Bomb drop from rocks outside temple (7 B) Enter Fire Temple Darunia small key Save
Segment 18: Small keys in lava room (5 B) Ride that block Bomb push through wall (4 B) Small key from nearby jail, climb up wall Small key from other upper jail SS through fire wall room (3 B) Blow up door in front of flare dancer, break one bomb pot while waiting (7 B) Kill Flare Dancer Up to Megaton Hammer Pause, equip Megaton Hammer on C-right, bow on C-left Fire Temple BK skip (3 B) Two cycle Volvagia Fire Medallion and save
Segment 19: Light Arrow CS Rainbow Bridge CS Equip Fire Arrows on C-left, Save
Segment 20: To Forest Trial Light torchs w/ fire arrows Pause, Equip Light Arrows on C-left, Hookshot on C-down Silver rupee room Destroy forest barrier To Water Trial Hookshot clip freezard Bow clip second red ice Destroy water barrier Pause, Equip Fire Arrows C-left To Shadow Trial Fire arrow the torch, hit switch Hookshot chest, Golden Gauntlets Second part of Shadow w/o lens Pause, Equip Light Arrows C-left, Bombs C-Down, Ocarina C-Right Destroy shadow barrier To Fire Trial Collect rupees Superslide w/ hover boots to get to end (2 B) Destroy fire barrier To Light Trial Get keys, ZL Pause, Equip Hookshot on C-Right Silver rupees Destroy light barrier To Spirit Trial Rupees in first room Chu chest, Equip Chus on C-Right, Fire Arrows on C-left, chu switch Burn web w/ fire arrows Equip Light Arrows on C-left, Deku Nuts on C-right Destroy spirit barrier Enter upper castle and save
Segment 21: Various enemy samplings SS up spiral staircase (1 B) LA SKIPZ (or use LA) Crumbling castle SS into Ganon to keep MS (0 B) Prepare for the finishing blow and... Game crash, internal battery runs dry, hahahahahahahahaha
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