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Author Topic: OoT3D: Boss Time Attack  (Read 233514 times)
ZeldaFan
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« Reply #135 on: August 13, 2011, 03:25:07 AM »

5.53 5.50 is possible on Gohma. Another screw up on hops to portal. Consistently getting 5.56-5.63 now, but seriously, can somebody please figure out how to trigger the side hops...this is getting annoying.
I think there's a window of time between the ending of Gohma's death scene and Link regaining movement. Side hopping during that frame of time could make Link side hop before the timer begins again. Or it could be side hopping immediately after the final hit on Gohma, then the game automatically registers your movement as a sidehop as soon as you regain control.

I think it all comes down to luck, really. If you're getting those times and are right next to the portal, I would just play it safe and roll.
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Mike
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« Reply #136 on: August 13, 2011, 04:12:17 AM »

I think there's a window of time between the ending of Gohma's death scene and Link regaining movement. Side hopping during that frame of time could make Link side hop before the timer begins again. Or it could be side hopping immediately after the final hit on Gohma, then the game automatically registers your movement as a sidehop as soon as you regain control.

I think it all comes down to luck, really. If you're getting those times and are right next to the portal, I would just play it safe and roll.

My problem is the best time I've gotten by rolling is .16, but usually it's .36 or more. I am not literally right next to the portal ever. I'm always at least 1 hop distance, usually within 2 hops. So, to get a good time, I need the side hops to happen. Unless, by the video I posted, you can point out something I am doing wrong in terms of spacing. If I could be as close to the portal as say the end of Volvagia or Phantom Ganon's battle, then it's possible to get to the portal in no time or almost no time (maybe .03 ticked on).
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« Reply #137 on: August 13, 2011, 08:13:35 PM »

I deleted my Morpha pic. Here is the new one:
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/52448520110722125848.jpg

Here are also the others:
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/57062420110722125835.jpg
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http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/76007620110722125840.jpg
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http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/36649520110726023442.jpg

I have got 5,93 Gohma and 37,60 KD but no pic yet.
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« Reply #138 on: August 14, 2011, 04:35:25 AM »

PLEASE, for the love of... anything, put thumbnails instead!!!
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« Reply #139 on: August 15, 2011, 10:25:42 PM »

PLEASE, for the love of... anything, put thumbnails instead!!!

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« Reply #140 on: August 17, 2011, 03:33:51 AM »

Almost had 5.56 on Gohma. So frustrated. Several 5.60-5.70s (finishing blow), but no double side hops on any of them to seal the deal. This just needs to happen so I can move on to the next boss already.

This. I'm not getting an understanding how to get the double side hops. I can get 5.50 ~ 5.90 easy, but I lose so much time trying to roll to the portal.
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« Reply #141 on: August 19, 2011, 04:21:47 AM »

5.53 5.50 is possible on Gohma. Another screw up on hops to portal. Consistently getting 5.56-5.63 now, but seriously, can somebody please figure out how to trigger the side hops...this is getting annoying.

At the very least, I've learned that it's not input in between the final strike hitting Ghoma, and her death animation playing. It's all input afterwards. I think it might be pressing the a button at just the right time either during her death animation (like towards the end or something) or right as it ends.
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« Reply #142 on: August 19, 2011, 07:02:43 AM »

At the very least, I've learned that it's not input in between the final strike hitting Ghoma, and her death animation playing. It's all input afterwards. I think it might be pressing the a button at just the right time either during her death animation (like towards the end or something) or right as it ends.

Couldn't you test using home buffering to see when the input start to function?
It is probably a slow and annoying way to test it, but it should atleast tell you when you're suppost to do your inputs.
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« Reply #143 on: August 19, 2011, 05:45:05 PM »

Its the first frame you gain control, since the game hasn't completely taken you out of L targeting yet.  Then the second sidehop has to be the frame before you touch the ground.
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« Reply #144 on: August 26, 2011, 04:15:37 AM »

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« Reply #145 on: August 26, 2011, 08:43:10 AM »

Not a new time, but here is the video of the 5.80 Gohma time. This shows that time can still advance even when pulling off the side hops. I know ZFG pointed out "how" you can do the hops, but it would be nice to have an explanation as to why sometimes time doesn't advance, and others, it does. You can look at my 5.83 video (where time didn't advance) and 5.80 video (where time did advance .04 seconds) for reference.
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« Reply #146 on: August 29, 2011, 04:40:30 PM »

Gohma in 5.76:                           King Dodongo in 37.36            Barinade in 48.13

Phantom Ganon in 49.80            Volvagia in 29.80                      Morpha in 21.73

Bongo Bongo in 12.06              Twinrova in 1:56.96                   Boss Gauntlet 6:24.93
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« Reply #147 on: August 30, 2011, 08:22:27 AM »

nice times. you should try speedrunning the whole game given your skills.
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« Reply #148 on: August 30, 2011, 03:06:02 PM »

Can Someone help me? i have gotten a few times that i think are fast but could someone PLEASE tell me the sort of strategies people use for the bosses to speedrun them because i can't find it ANYWHERE online that doesn't say use the power crouch stab and deku sticks because i know those glitches dont work! i joined this site hoping i could get help in this area but i haven't found anywhere giving hints on how to defeat them in the times that you guys are all setting. Sad  Sad  Sad  Cry
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« Reply #149 on: August 30, 2011, 03:24:06 PM »

Thanks, UchihaSasuke. Smiley
I'm not sure if I can do any run without any good recording device...

Anyways, I just found out yesterday that the game is even more broken.

King Dodongo in 28.10


Can anyone guess how I got that? It is actually a horrible record. I can get near 20 seconds I believe.

Quick_Learner, I haven't gotten that many hints either. However, If you read through this topic you should be able to get a good Gohma, King Dodongo and Bongo Bongo record.
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