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« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2009, 05:28:11 PM » |
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Yeah, as Ani noted you can always get the shield from the shop. Also, ZFG found a trick to make the magic ISG possible to attempt multiple times, as long as you don't get the jar itself. But yeah, it still sucks.
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« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2009, 04:44:39 AM » |
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The Official Low% Item Ruling Guide v2:
1. Any item that appears in your Item Subscreen counts. (e.g. bottle, megaton hammer, light arrows) 1a. All items in the same slot (even if they are at different times) in your item subscreen count. (e.g. if you get Egg, then Cucco, it counts as two items; the same is true of hookshot and longshot, etc) 1b. Previous items are not assumed in any item. (e.g. if you get Zelda's Letter, you do not automatically get Egg and Cucco) 1c. Transforming an item into a bottle does NOT count as an additional item (e.g. turning Deku Sticks into a bottle with bottle duplication) 1d. Using bottle duplication to get a bottle on an empty slot does NOT count as an additional item
2. An item that appear on your Equipment Subscreen counts. (e.g. quiver, master sword, iron boots) 2a. Kokiri Boots and Tunic do not count, since they are obtained at the start and are never "collected". 2b. All items in the same slot (even if they are at different times) in your item subscreen count. (e.g. if you get Bomb Bag, then Big Bomb Bag, it counts as two items) 2c. As a clarification for 2b, Giant's Knife and Broken's Giant Knife are two different items. 2d. Previous items are not assumed in any item. (e.g. if you get Golden Scale, you do not automatically get Silver Scale)
3. Every Heart Container or Heart Piece counts as one item. 3a. The first three hearts you get do not count, since they are obtained at the start and are never "collected".
4. Any Great Fairy Gift counts as one item. (e.g. Magic, Double Magic, Double Defense)
5. Any wallet upgrade counts as one item. (e.g. Giant's Wallet) 5a. The starting wallet does not count, since it is obtained at the start and is never "collected".
6. Any song learned counts as one item. (e.g. Song of Time, Zelda's Lullaby) 6a. Scarecrow's Song counts as one item.
7. Any Medallion or Spiritual Stone counts as one item. (e.g. Light Medallion, Kokiri Emerald)
8. Gerudo License and Stone of Agony count as one item each.
9. Epona and the cow in Link's house count as one item each.
10. Each Golden Skulltula token collected counts as one item. Any reward from the Gold Skulltula House counts based on the other rules. (e.g. Adult's Wallet counts, silver rupee does not)
11. Ammunition does not count as an item. (e.g. arrows, nuts) 11a. To clarify, ammunition-in-themsleves items, such as Deku Nuts and Deku Sticks, do count as one item when they are first picked up. 11b. Anything caught in a bottle is considered "ammunition" and is not counted as an item. (e.g. bugs, fish, poe) 11c. All types of rupees are classified as ammunition
12. Dungeon items do not count as an item. (e.g. Small Keys, Boss Keys, Dungeon Maps, Compasses)
13. Any item obtained in the fishing pond does not count as an item. (e.g. fishing pole, fisherman's hat, 6 lb fish, sinking lure) 13a. If the item obtained would count under a previous rule, it is still counted. (e.g. Heart Piece, Golden Scale)
14. If an item is lost and then regained, it is not counted again. (e.g. burning a Deku Shield and buying another, getting a hylian shield back from a Like Like)
15. If an item that would count under a previous rule appears on B, it counts as obtaining that item.
16. Deleting an item through RBA or any other means does not remove the item from your count.
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Jiano
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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2009, 04:45:53 AM » |
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Sounds good.
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ING-X
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« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2009, 01:20:16 PM » |
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100% agreed. Looks like this will make everyone happy from the looks of it
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<complex> byan you're doing that thing again <complex> the thing where everything you say is fucking retarded <ethandude> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual cheak this out luxury it might come in helpful when u wright your resime
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« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2009, 06:59:53 PM » |
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Added a note about bottle duping on an empty slot, and added epona and the cow in Link's house as an item.
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Jiano
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« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2009, 10:30:52 PM » |
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-Get to the Anubis and Beamos room and kill all enemies (11 chus)
You don't need to do this since you do it as a kid.
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« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2009, 10:52:57 PM » |
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Route deleted since it probably doesn't save time (though if we can save one more chu it will)
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« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2009, 12:24:03 AM » |
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wait, how is this any different from the other route? I guess i could find out by checking, but I'm way too lazy atm
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<complex> byan you're doing that thing again <complex> the thing where everything you say is fucking retarded <ethandude> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual cheak this out luxury it might come in helpful when u wright your resime
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RingRush
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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2009, 12:40:26 AM » |
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It half milk RBAs, climbs moving wall in spirit without chus, and does a poe superslide warp instead of house hover to get on shadow seam. In turn, it can skip the spirit trial chu chest. Further analysis makes me think this route isn't much faster, and definietly harder.
Edit: I just made some changes to the original route, using some of the extra chus for ESSes (and made it a chu ss warp for shadow early instead of house hover), and I think the first route would now be faster.
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« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2009, 02:53:35 PM » |
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about the first route mega flip ESSes save no time and are just damn hard to do. you know, you have to do a mega flip without Z targetting. it has a 3 frame timing just for speed comparison: backwalking is 13.5 (as adult) and mega flip ESS is 14 so let's say it takes 15 seconds from market to kakariko, a ESS would save 15/27 seconds, so like 0,6 seconds. rolling alone takes 40 frames, which is 0,6 seconds, so the saved time is 0 you also wrote "mega flip ESS in hyrule field on the way to kakariko after escaping the forest". just do a bombchu SS with the bushes to kakariko. saves way more time
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« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2009, 12:13:58 AM » |
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I finally beat Low%. Pause buffering made it quite a bit easier but it was still a bitch.
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« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2009, 12:41:56 AM » |
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Grunz, any ideas for the leftover chus?
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« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2009, 04:22:11 PM » |
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Hey i just thought of something - if having deku sticks on b (but not having them in your inventory) counts as obtaining sticks, then why doesn't the same apply to bombs on c-down when you become adult?
is it because the bombs on c-down are unusable unless you rba an amount of them?
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<complex> byan you're doing that thing again <complex> the thing where everything you say is fucking retarded <ethandude> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual cheak this out luxury it might come in helpful when u wright your resime
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Meow, and... stuff.
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« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2009, 04:40:07 PM » |
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Goddamnit Ing, you know this is just gonna end up with you typing in all caps and saying fuck in the irc Leave it alone :V
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RBA stands for Rare Bird Adventure. We call it that because we need to get the blue cucco in order to use it.
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ING-X
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« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2009, 04:47:48 PM » |
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Goddamnit Ing, you know this is just gonna end up with you typing in all caps and saying fuck in the irc Leave it alone :V
no u
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<complex> byan you're doing that thing again <complex> the thing where everything you say is fucking retarded <ethandude> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual cheak this out luxury it might come in helpful when u wright your resime
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