MM: Trick Research & Discovery Thread

[RingRush]

That actually is called "Black Wind" (when in reference to essing) and is used by a few runners. Some still prefer hessing on an N64 controller though.

[ING-X]

Black wind is completely useless in Majora's Mask, as it does not let you change ESS angles viably, completely eliminating all use that ESS has in the game in the first place. Also, from what I understand, black wind doesn't work properly in MM anyway because of the way the controls work.

On a slightly related note: ESS angle change is only useful if you can control when you change the angle. In fact, automatic ESS angle change is the reason that HESS on VC (even with an N64 controller) is not feasible in a single segment run - it happens way too much at times when you least want it to happen.

[BottlesFTW]

An easy way to do the new Great Bay Temple Boss Key Skip discovered by MrGrunz:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUti7UuIEwU

[Shattered_]

Hi guys,

I'm not sure if this is useful or if it's been posted before, but you can use the zora swimming/jump thing to clip through the fence in ikana castle @ this location (and subsequently get up on the balcony):

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/339/sttdive.png/

if it proves to be useful i can make a video out of it, otherwise not really worth the time

[Kaztalek]

There are ways to get over the fence through swimming, but I've never heard of clipping through. I'd like to see.

[Shattered_]

it's not really "clipping" per se, it's more of just trying to jump out of the water and at one point i jumped out, hit the rail, and went sliding up over the rail rather than getting knocked back

i'm not much of the recording kind of person (see my post count) but i lurk pretty regularly and keep up and get into it when i get interested, but i've never really recorded anything and i no longer have the savestate for STT, but if someone can hook me up with a savestate and a reliable method for recording i can give it a shot

i did try reproducing it (not extensively..like 5 times) and didn't have success. if it was much much more useful i'd be more inclined to, but yeah, i was kind of just putting this out there as "if it's really useful, i can point it out and someone more interested in this than me can expand on it"

[Kaztalek]

This is useful, but we do know about it and know how to get it consistently. I will add it to the STT page when I get it around to it.

Basically to get it consistently, you go in the water, in the corner by the sunblock, and c-up to look at the post you bounce off of. Then just hold A and press B once getting on the fence to get over.

Pretty nice to find yourself, keep it up.

[mzxrules]

I think I did something here new.
1)go to a ledge near water
2)get close to the ledge and make Link's back face the water
3)put down a bomb
4)change into deku link
5)shield (MAKE SURE YOU ARE FACING THE BOMB!)
deku link should rocket backwards at high speeds into the water

Sounds like a water super slide.

[Razor7581]

I think I did something here new.
1)go to a ledge near water
2)get close to the ledge and make Link's back face the water
3)put down a bomb
4)change into deku link
5)shield (MAKE SURE YOU ARE FACING THE BOMB!)
deku link should rocket backwards at high speeds into the water

Sorry bro, that's old stuff.

[qwerty1605]

So I was battling Gecko in GBT and I was swallowed by the goop stuff and he attacked me. I was mashing random buttons and when I got out I was hovering in mid air I didn't have ISG or anything either. SO I tried to backflip to get out of it. Link grunted as if doing a backflip but stood in place. I then shot an arrow and link froze the only button that works is the pause button and you can still navigate the pause menu. The battle continues but Gecko's attacks always miss. Has this happened to anyone else? If so, is there a way to get out of it?

[Kaztalek]

that sounds amazing, as that pretty much describes what happens during the like like glitch

any ideas on how to recreate?

[qwerty1605]

I might be able to, I was just mashing random buttons.

EDIT: I figured it out I just held an Ice Arrow in my bow until I was "swallowed"' and mashed random buttons but I don't think the button mashing did anything. When I got stuck in the air I was in mid roll, probaboly from mashing the a button after I was released.

[Kaztalek]

I still can't get this.. how did you do it again exactly

like was the bow out in z target mode or first person, at what point, where aiming, etc

[Masterluigisw]

I have no idea if this is new or old, but I found out how to seemwalk on the mountains at Snowhead. I found out how to do it on both sides but this is most likely already discovered, just thought I would drop this in here just in case. 

[Kaztalek]

ya the one on the right is old, havent heard of the left tho