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Who wants to run?

This is just an idea of who we could get to do which games. There is no planned date right now, just as an interest test.

Post the games you would want to run, IF YOU CAN STREAM

Lets see if we can actually fill this up before we actually decide on a date or time

Also tell us if you think the estimated times should be tweaked here and there

These will all be on console

I could possibly run ST, but im not sure how i would stream it

I'd love to be the runner or a backup for oot once i can stream :)

Runner or backup for OoT.  Nothing else currently, but I've been playing other games lately (MM), so if I feel comfortable enough for a backup, I'll let you know.

I can do OoT(backup for RG, Pokey, or Jiano . I have a streaming setup.

MST OoT plz :)

Adventures of Link is something I'd love to do. I just don't know the route or strats and tricks, or if I have to use the walking glitch.

Whoever does oracle of ages will probably have to run oracle of seasons as well and vice versa to truly beat both games.  Someone could beat one of the games and the next runner could use the password that was obtained when the first game was completed.  I'm not sure if it would be faster to use the game link cable though.  I will volunteer to run oracle of ages if the time comes, but I don't currently have anything that can stream videos or a dvd recorder.  So I guess I'll sign up as a backup runner for now.      

I'm willing to run or backup TP, MC, either/both Oracle(s), or LA, assuming I get a new webcam/capture card.

EDIT: Can Blizz really do MC sub 2:20 one try?  OoS looks like a stretch as well.

to ZFG: No.

post better estimates if you know them


please note that nothing on the page is set in stone

I'm able to try OoT again if everyone's ok with it, but I'd pretty much only try if it's a weekend and I'm home. It's good to see others can take it too though. A good estimate is 1:20. I understand giving others a crack at it though since it's so popular, and pretty much anyone can sub 1:30 with a little practice, you just have to know what to do with the RBA steps and then really you can't screw it up by that much.

I'd do MC

who'd do TP?
if Jiano did TP, ZFG should do MM. ZFG is probably really skilled at MM, too, so he is the best choice for it

but I'd say it's probably best to have Jiano for MM, because nobody else can play the shit out of the game like Jiano ;)

What about warp glitches in LA and alttp? Cant those bring down these games to about 10 minutes? Or are they TAS only?

I think there are emulators that have an internet-link-function. So that would be an option.
Let's face it we have to play the handheld games on an emulator anyway. The only other way would be the gameboy player and not many people have one of these.


Oh and can we do the stream on blogtv next time? I don't like that ustream doesn't record the chat with the video. A lot of the runners comments have no context this way.

I'd happily do wind waker again, unless something major came up. Would be nice if we could get backups for this game >_>

Also, if I had a gameboy player and the skills, I would have been willing to backup for aLttP, TMC, Adventures of Link and Zelda 1. Sadly no though. (dont put me up there as possible runner for any of those though lol)
EDIT ^: Oh, and also Links Awakening. forgot about that one :/

NOW what we need to do is organize a 100% 15 game marathon all under 60 hours AMIRITE? ;]

Also in ZFGs favor, I do nominate MST as a special feature after the marathons done? would be supercool to watch

Slowking: Yeah, you are able to do the warp glitches in those games. ALttP is very easy to do it in for example. But if they are used, they should be played through "normally" as well, without warps. So like first warping and then normal playthrough, or vice versa.

I'm talking to Wak now and he seems to be interested, but it's unsure if he has the equipment for it yet. More to that later...

I'd probably join in and stream if I didn't have this damn night vision webcam <_<

Imo we should play every game as fast as possible every way we can, as long as it's not cheating.
If we start with something like that we can also say "Oh but nobody understands OoT RBA, so we can't use it" or "Oh but the Wrong Warp Glitch in MM distorts the game so much, so we can't use it".
We could play these games in full after the marathon, but in it we should shoot for fastest time, to get the most impressive end time. A really good end time weill atrackt a lot of people to the next marathon (I just assume this is going to be a regular thing) and a good single game time might help us to atrackt more viewers during the current marathon.

If we're doing the LA screenwarp, put me purely as a backup then.

My stream quality: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/3198306 (http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/3198306)

Obviously I'll adjust the location of the camera during the actual run.

My father's computer has a webcam (that's all you need to stream, right?), so if I'm allowed to use it, I can be the MM back-up player, since nobody else is. OoT has plenty of spots, so just put me down for MM.

Well my Live Ocarina Run took ~1:50 but I was playing very casually and talking/checking the chat a lot. Plus I had HORRIFIC luck with the DoT Skip(close to 10 minutes killed on it alone, need to practice the pause buffer method). I also had to conger-up a route last minute because I didn't know that the GCN version does RBA differently. I could probably get a ~1:30 if I'm prepared and take it very seriously. People seemed to be very impressed with the quality as well.

It was good practice for me anyway, I'll definitely be ready to run/backup in the marathon coming up(if it happens).

I agree. We should do the glitch to beat it in 5 minutes.

What's the point of having LttP and LA on the roster if we're just gonna play them for 5 minutes then?

Agreed. we should do those seperate/after the run. Same goes with OoT MST (And that's only if ZFG will run it, because nobody else will)

Still. It's a zelda game. That's why its called a zelda marathon.

Count me in for oot and tww... I might be able too.

Put up Wak for ALttP and FSA to begin with, and we'll see what happens :P.

I hope we can get Greenalink for PH, he'll kick ass at the game. I'm going to practice some Four Swords tomorrow with my run partner, I hope we'll do somewhat good...

Tentative date: sometime in July 2010

Ah come on that's way to late.
Isn't winter brake at the moment? So everybody could practice and we could do it in one or two months. If we wait until July a lot of people will just forget...

If July is too late, how about the end of January/start of Febuary?

Obviously, this probably won't work for everyone, but it's during my exam break.  Apart from that, I probably won't get too many other opportunities.  This will set it up for the 30th/31st of January, but I know that ZFG, Cosmo, etc want to do an impromptu on the 30th, so it might not work even if everyone is available.

IMO this shouldn't be the next marathon we do. This one is huge. Our website for 2D Zelda games is still pretty small (like non-existent). We've got 70% OoT players or more and that's it. I think doing it some time next summer would work out better than trying to do it in a month.

And since we've got so many people who can run OoT, why not do one like this:
1) any% RBA run
2) any% no-RBA
3) MST run
4) 100% run

All OoT. That way more people get a chance to play OoT instead of just being a back up.

If runnerguy isnt going to do OoT then I cold be the runner. If he is then I could be a backup.

I don't know if i read it in this topic or not, but I heard we might use chat commentators? So that the runners can focus purely on the run itself? If I can get a decent microphone by then, I could do some commentating.

USB mics have way better quality than line in microphones, right?

what the fuck is going on with you, aleckermit? :-X

he just said, that he read, that we might use chat commentators and that's no bad idea at all

why are you saying all that shit to bluestarreturns?

I'd actually say, that YOU're filling your time with useless stuff avoiding the real problems in your life ;)
instead of coming here and insulting bluestarreturns, you should go out more often.
I mean, you don't even know bluestarreturns, but you think, you have the right to tell him, that he's a no life and all that stuff

I don't get it :-\

I allready set up a page with a stream for the game, one for the commentator, one for the ZSR IRC and one for the UStream IRC> Don't tell me this aleckermit!  :(

Pretty simple, dont have the stream running in the backround and you won't be distracted by the commentating.


I think commentary is a great idea, and being able to answer the chat makes it all the better

I DID NOT post that! MAJOR apologies to BlueStarReturns, that is ignorant bullshit.  We had a small Christmas party here last night and I had friends over and I know exactly which asshole typed that... I was showing him the ZSR site then we went in the other room and he played with my computer for a while. He's a rude, judgmental asshole all the time.

Again, I DID NOT POST THAT and I'm deleting it immediately.

PS: I'm changing my password just in case.

remember folks, never let some random n00b use your computer when you're away.

Yeah once my friend posted on sda along the lines of calling me a "cock sucker" who likes "little boys" and smells his own farts..... I deleted it immediatly lol <_<

It's okay, alec. I didn't even know about it til after you deleted it. I had an impression though that you don't talk like that anyway while watching your run, so even if I had seen it, I probably would've reacted somewhat like Grunz did. Though I would've just said, "WTF?"

Anyways, if I get a chance to be a commentator, I need to know some things and if I have to buy some things:

- Can you stream with a built-in webcam on a laptop? Or does it have to be a hook-up webcam?
- Where do you get streaming software? Is it free or do you buy it at a store?

I will be new to streaming when doing this, but not to commentating. I have done some commentaries on both of my Youtube Channels. The questions apply to the streaming. If I can get basic answers, I should be able to figure it out easily.

If we decide to use chat commentators, I'd be up for a few shifts. Especially during OoT as it's my favorite Zelda.

I'll check back to see what the decision and the answers are.

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLAAuoOe6bc - This is an update on my youtube channel. It tests my rock band usb mic quality. would this be good enough quality for commentating? I personally think it sounds a lot better than my line-in mic. No longer The Storm Cloud of Skype, perhaps?

I use my computer's built in webcam for streaming.

Also, no software is needed, just make an account on ustream, allow the site access to your camera and mic, and you're good to go.

For streaming the games, though, it's different, right?

I heard you need some kind of AV-to-USB cable or something. I mean, most people would like to see the game and not the tv with the game...

I'm thinking of doing some game streaming in the future, that's why I'm wondering.

Thanks for the answer, SD2!

Well here's the thing BSR: not everyone can afford to grab capture cards to stream games, so webcams are still a good option. You can use your built-in one, there's nothing against it.
P.S. I didnt check the video but it HAS to be better than that bacon-sizzling, electro-storm crap you got going on with yours
I think my ears are still in pain from that ;_;

Anyways, Webcam + a good mic is all you need. Ustream has a little Broadcast window that pops up, you choose the video device, your mic, start streaming, you're good to go. Not complicated at all =)

psst: I got my EasyCap for $13 off eBay (could have got it for 10, kinda got jipped). It doesnt do a bad job at all, so... it might be worth the risk if you really want to stream straight from your console. it might be more of a hassle than its worth of course but it's an option

Thanks, Ani!

Could you check the video out if you have time? I'd kind of like some feedback on how it sounds from those who would be hearing me on the marathon.

So, it's okay to have the tv in the webcam's view? All right.

Of course it is. That's what Jiano had to do for the marathon, there's nothing against it.

Also, I just looked at the video, that is a pretty good mic, it's the same kind as the one I use (though I got mine for a different game). I just set it on a table near my speakers and then I just raise my voice. It'll pick up alot more than you think, you dont need to actually hold it near you lest you are being quiet. Not to mention, Ustream has a volume control for the mic to turn it up and down as necessary, and I think the highest you can put it is 200%.
It's good, no worries, just don't hold it that close to your face. Breathing can distort what you're saying :P

I will keep that in mind.

Should we post what we'd prefer for commentating shift times if we're interested in chat commentating in this topic, too? If so, here's what will work for me:

- If it's a daytime-hours shift, I can be louder but not screaming of course
- If it's nighttime/early morning, I have to be quieter so as not to disturb my roommates.

Either shift will work, but I'd prefer one of the daytime shifts.

Well to be honest with you, I believe someone should only be a commentator if they're a backup runner or know nearly everything about the game exclusively. Cause the most questions are going to be asked about "WTF just happened?" And someone's gotta be there to back it up. I don't know about your knowledge of any of the zelda games, but...

and Shift times, it's kind of hard to say since we don't even have set-in-stone plans or a time roster of any sort. In general, if you can commentate on a game in the daytime, take it. if it's too inconvenient for you, don't do it. Simple enough.

Anyways, with the way things are going for me, I might even be able to backup MM. We'll have to see how well things go but if I get decent enough, I'd be allover that :D

REPLY since I dont want to make another post in this thread:
That's not to say you can't learn stuff before the next marathon, you know ;)

I see...   :(

Uh I would love to comment on MM. I'm not good enough to backup run it but I know basically everything about that game. ^^

See, Ani, I am just like Slowking, but with OoT instead of MM. I'm not good enough to backup run it, but I know what's going on when I see it. Having seen the any% run done enough times (which I assume is what would be done for the marathon), I have picked up on what's being done and how it's done.

I feel the same way as Slowking. If you at least know what's going on in the run, you should be able to commentate. The skill has nothing to do with it, in my opinion. If I were asking a question in the chat, it wouldn't matter to me if the chat commentator had the skills to back it up or not. As long as they know what's going on in the run, I'd accept their input.

Please don't be mad at me for saying this. I just needed to get my opinions out there on the table.

To be honest, whatever's decided will be fine with me. If I don't get to commentate, that's fine. I'll still support the marathons and will participate in the chat. But, I do think that Slowking and I have raised a point...

I think this is something that should be discussed more, but by those who are in charge of planning the marathons.

Uh... commentating is probably the least of our concerns; it's going to be a hell of a lot harder to get runners for all the games and making sure they all show up.

Besides, I don't really see the point... I mean, who wants to watch a run where a guy's saying "Well he's running now. He has to talk to the cucco lady. He got cojiro! Now he's going to RBA again for a bomb bag and quiver. RBA is..."?

Well I think the commentators aren't a bad idea. If we are going to promote the marathon all over the place there are bound to be a lot of questions. So somebody who can answer them would be a good idea... and ofcourse somebody who can yell STFU up when somebody calls "cheater". Ofcourse we would need to device a way in wich we still have the runner and the game audio in there so that the runner can also comment...

But in general: Come on people!

We don't have anything as of yet.

First of all we need a fixed date to start planing. I still vote sometime in spring break.

Then we need a ruling on how LA and ALTTP will be played. With warp glitches or without? That will determine who can run them and how long it takes.
Let's get to work!

Spring break sounds good, but that's different for different people.

I'm just going out on a loop here, but why not do both runs for LA and ALttP?  Both are no longer than 10 minutes when you include credits (shortened version), so if the respective runners are willing to do both, then do them both.  Obviously, we shouldn't force the issue, and can always do the other one at the end with an entirely different runner if need be.

Might as well say my Spring break is from the 15th of March to the 19th of March.

Hmm didn't know spring break is differnet. Your school system is so confusing...

Well I would argue that we should get the best time for the marathon to promote for future marathons or to promote with during the marathon.
So if LA and ALTTP were to played in full it should be after the marathon as a bonus. Likewise the OoT MST run.

I think sometime during summer would be best.  I know its far away but I think we should try to get pages up for every,  or almost every game so if people want to know how to do a trick we can just link them to the site.

We won't have those pages anyway. :D Or are you going to make them? :p And isn't that what the comentator is for?

Well, I have to agree with ZFG on the choice of summer as when the marathon. Personally, as I'm not even in school, I could do it any time, but I realize fully that this is not the case for many of the members and runners here.

But, I also agree with Slowking and wonder: If we just link the people with questions to the site, is there any other reason to have chat commentators? There might be other stuff in the chat that may not pertain to the run but that people might just want explained.

Of course, what's decided is decided. As I've said before, I'll still participate in the marathon's chat regardless of whether we have commentators or not.

So, my vote for the date is sometime in the summer.

May point out that the chart went down with the site, the page no longer exists.  This is, of course, not true if Cosmo backed it up somewhere.

I believe I have a full backup of /junk/, but until #zelda believes that I didn't hack ZSR I can't do anything really...

Should all of them be SS runs? If so, I can't do one. But if it's segmented, I'm working an Any% WW run.

Marathons are obviously SS runs, that's the main idea of the marathon.
I wonder if I shall rechange some of the LA/OoS/OoA routes to the marathon, as none of them are perfect enough for my test.

You can segment a run of the marathon, if savewarping were faster or whatever, but it obviously needs to be done in one sitting, and the time it takes to reset adds on to the total. Much like the RTA category that has been purposed for OoT.

Then I'd chose SS, I don't know if I can do it but I'll tell you if I can. Unreal could do instead if I can't.

Marcus, it's pretty much been confirmed that I'll be doing SS for the marathon lol. No one else has the balls Deku Nuts :P

I want to do MM D:

By july 2010... man i'll have sub 1:57

true story

So I don't know about you guys but it's just about Spring Break here.

Are we doing this?  When?

oh shit
I totally forgot about this thread OH NO. that means I'm gonna have to play WW when the time comes D:!

We should obviously do this at least :). But when, that's another question...

You guys are already on spring break?  I'm not off for another week and a bit... :(

Anyway, we need to get that chart up again, and then maybe go a bit more indepth with the planning (if we do do this in July).

I'm also thinking we should get viewer opinions on when they would watch it (specific time), what games they would like to watch, and the like so that we can slot the right games in at primetime hours and put the less popular ones on graveyard shift.  We also need to account for Europe and maybe Asia/Australia, so the more input we can get the better.

Oh, and I'll take over MC. :P

My spring break is next week.

We should also do some research for a charity that we would like to help raise money for.

Alright guys, summer is only a few months away and we still have a lot of organizing to do with this.

First, it seems pretty obvious that this widget (http://www.chipin.com/) should be used, I've seen it on nearly every marathon raising money for a charity. It seems easy enough to set up. If we can't put it on the ustream page itself, then we can alter our homepage (we may want to do that anyway) and put it there, and then just link people to www.zeldaspeedruns.com (that may encourage them to check out the site as well). We could put both the stream and this widget on our homepage and then just link everyone to the homepage.

I was looking at some charities and I think the best approach would be to pick one that raises money for children. I like this idea because everyone loves to help kids (which means we raise more money) and lets face it; for all of us to have internet access and play these video games as kids, we are in a pretty fortunate situation. Not all children get to enjoy the things we enjoy. Here (http://www.more4kids.info/652/top-childrens-charities/) is a list of 25 top children's charities, and there are many others as well.

I'm thinking, we can just send a generic email to them, saying something like, "Dear [charity], we are going to be raising money for a gaming marathon and would like to benefit a charity. We have looked into your organization and were wondering if you would like to sponser us. -ZSR Team" or some junk like that. It obviously needs to be worded good but then we just see who we get replies from and pick one. I assume that's how it works, did anyone see/work with SDA when they did their marathon? Or any other marathon?

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Ok, on the gaming side of things, we need to get that page back up with runners and back-up runners, as well as commentators if we are going to do that. If we do commentators I say that person is on a skype call AND can be heard in the main stream, OR we set up a secondary account and have that person face a webcam and then have two streams like SDA did (people are probably gonna ask you to take off your shirt because I've seen that multiple times on marathons so you got to say, "If you donate $10 dollars", haha). The goal of the commentator should pretty much just be to interact with the people chatting, and especially answer questions on some of the tricks and glitches the runner does.

The time this should take place should weigh heavily in favor of the 2D ZELDA GAMERS! This is really critical. We've got probably 10+ people that could do OoT under 1:30 (Actually setting up two streams and having a race would be highly entertaining, imo; the loser then has to drop out and we continue to the next game). How many people can run the Minish Cap? Or Zelda II? We need to work the schedule around these people, and then fill in the gaps with the 3D games where we have more options.

Once we do all this, we are going to want to spread the word. We managed to get around 300 viewers at one point for WW (let's face it, not the most exciting game in the series) for only advertising on one day. Imagine what we could do with a few weeks of advertising. Make threads on gaming boards, post youtube videos, put it on your facebook, etc. It's easy to sell because we can state with confidence that we are the fastest Zelda players out there.

So yeah, discuss things I mentioned and state if you can play games and who's gonna be playing what since I looked over the first page and not everyone who posted there is active anymore.

Obviously I'm willing to do OoT as I'll be home during the summer and will have the webcam stream.

I think focusing on the 2D games seems a little selective.  We need to get some input from those who are going to watch the marathon.  If we do a focus on the 2D games and put the 3D games in less popular time slots, we're going to lose viewers, its as simple as that.

What I'm thinking is we put out a video on each of our youtube channels (just have 1 person make one then everyone uses it), asking for any info that could be relevant to the marathon.  This could be anything from ideal games, to ideal times, dates, etc.  With the info, we can craft a schedule and release it a couple of weeks before the marathon.  Within this, there is still a slight problem, as many of our channels contain only MM/OoT videos, so it's likely well get a ton of votes for those to be shown at prime hours.  We could probably alter the voting and exclude OoT/MM from the vote and just give them a primetime slot right away, but that's something that can probably be discussed later.

With regard to picking a charity, I'm assuming that there would be some outside source that could help us with this.  The Speed Gamers host all kinds of marathons, so I'm sure someone from there could help us with the process.  If that falls through, I imagine Mike from SDA (where we should also advertise/get input) would be able to help us with stuff like that.  Also, we ave players from all over the world, and I assume viewers will be from all over the world, so we should pick an international charity if that's an option.

Apart from that, I agree with everything Runnerguy said.  Let's get the planning done on this and do a good job on this.  Lets not do a 4/20 repeat.

Also, as far as games go, I'm still good for MC, LA, OoA, and OoS.  I'll also do LoZ, AoL, and FSA if it becomes needed.

I can be a backup for Runnerguy, just in case anything happens. I MIGHT be able to do phantom hourglass. I just need to learn hammer early and a few things and I'm good to go.

Good stuff RG.

I agree that we need advertisement WELL in advance and organization needs to be a prime factor. Everyone who has a Youtube account could upload an ad video for it the day of the marathon. I was also wondering if 100% of the proceeds are going to charity or if ZSR is going to keep a small percentage to help run the site?

And I'm up for OoT any% main/backup/race of course and commentating/moderating as well.

we should meet up irl

in an abandoned church

where nobody can hear you scream...

We could have like a mega OoT race with aleck vs. RG vs. ZFG vs. jianobutts vs. me vs. not ing

Fuck guys, I'll start remaking a roster with backup's and narrators. I'm gonna need the FTP pass SOON... I'll re-edit the post when it gets about ready.


EDIT: Alright bitches, I got a little mockup made. Check it out:

http://i.imgur.com/uv5wf.png (http://i.imgur.com/uv5wf.png)

Now please post below to add names/times. When I get unbanned from the irc, and I get FTP access I can setup a little mini-site.


EDIT 2: yeah so I added MM twice. It's fixed now, but I'm not re-uploading the pic. That takes bandwidth. precious bandwidth that I just don't have :(

Where's me for Phantom Hourglass, and backup for OoT?!?!?!? lol

Very good point, I completely overlooked actual primetime slots and # of viewers; that is very important as well. I was just thinking if a date/time doesn't work for someone on something like Zelda II, and we don't have a backup (or backup can't make that day either), then the whole thing falls apart.


I think the closest person to me is Ing. :/

Not ZFG either since he's a nub who can't stream. But yeah, having OoT be a race would be highly entertaining, and it would improve our chances for a good time.

If I can get my friend to practice some Four Swords with me, I'm sure we'll be able to do that one. Only one player will be streamed if so. I guess I could get an extra Game Boy Player and stream both TVs if wanted.
Other games I could do are (As stated in Blizz' picture) ALttP, LA, OoA and OoS. If I practice LoZ a bit I would probably be able to do that as well.

Wak has said that he could do Four Swords Adventure and/or A Link to the Past. But it's unsure if he will have the equipment for it.

I could ask Arctic Eagle (Norweigian Zelda 2 runner, http://speeddemosarchive.com/Zelda2.html) if he is willing to join in for some Zelda 2 action.

Alright so I'm gonna make some edits to the roster, and even upload it to another free hosting site in the mean time.

TO EVERYONE INTERESTED IN THE MARATHON: Practice your left hand games. You don't have to be the best or the fastest, were looking more for consistency (being able to do a trick most times without fucking up, even if it takes longer to do)

Even if the backups aren't used, they are NEEDED because like Runnerguy said, if one game can't be done were boned. I'll edit this once I get the roster up on a free hosting site.

i wish i could help you guys

I think I'm gonna be the TP runner (or if not, the backup).  I could backup OoT but I don't think it matters, since there are enough good (even better) people who would do it.

My roommate could maybe be the backup for ALttP, as he was practicing it a few weeks back.  Tompa is a better choice, though.

As I can't run any zelda games well, I'll volunteer to be a commentator (especially since I have a track record of good commentating). I don't think a stream looking at the commentators would be good, since unlike the SDA run the people talking aren't the zelda speedrunners. A skype voiceover would probably be good. Although, I could stream in between games some entertainment or something...me playing Baten Kaitos? :p (not really :( ). I'm good for 3D games, but we also need people who are pro at 2D games to commentate for those (or at least provide me with a list of tricks and what their purpose is...I've played OoA/OoS/LA/FSA so I can explain everything that isn't an sb pretty easily).

I'm still for the "Get Jijo a Wii so he can play MM any% segmented on it"- charity. :D
... But in all seriousness. How about Child's Play? http://www.childsplaycharity.org/
I like the idea of us gamers being able to relieve childreens suffering with games. And god knows these sick childreen need these games to at least keep a little bit of their childhood alive.
There actually was a woman at PAX East who was also sick a lot as a kid and thus could tell from first hand experience how much it means for these childreen to find some escape in games: http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/pa-the-series/116/

On the gaming side:
I will comment on MM. And I will fight anybody who tries to get in my way. :p

child's play sounds good slowi :)

As an added plus maybe (probably not, but hey it would be worth a try) we could get a small plug from penny arcade in their news, which would incraese our viewers by a lot and with that the money we can raise for charity. And isn't that the main reason we do this?

Wow that sounds perfect. They've got a Mario Marathon on June 25th so maybe we could go some time in July. I suppose the next step would be to actually set up a page that explains who we are, what we are doing, make it nice looking like, etc. The MarioMarathon had a "how to" page (http://www.mariomarathon.com/howto.html) and it looks like we've got a lot of it covered.

After we have a page up and are happy with it, I'd say we email the contact person for Child's Play and see if we can get a blurb on their site linking to our page. From there we'd pretty much have all that stuff out of the way and be able to focus on the games.

hmm we still have the matter to settle how we play games with major sequenz breaks (LA, aLttp, OoT), though. I would propose a compromise.
We do two marathons back to back. One main marathon where we play through all the games as fast as possible and one mini marathon where we play an all temples run of the three games. This way we won't have the fastest time for our real marathon but still have an incentive to be quick in the mini marathon.

Major sequence breaks imo.

So main and mini marathon that are timed seperately?


Oh and btw. I am against making an OoT race in the marathon. It's a marathon and not a race for a reason. A race would be really fun for us, but it would confuse the hell out of the general viewer and we have to think of them first, since we want their money for charity.
We can race OoT all the time (and in fact we do). But the marathon is not the right place to do it.

That.

äääääääääääääääähm guys. It's basically summer.

I put a video in /junk that we need to get on everyone's youtube channels to help with the scheduling process.  A couple people have watched it, but a download link would be great, so we can get that ASAP.

Also, I'm on holidays for the last week of July.

I can't really help with the speedrunning part of any of this. If anybody needs help organizing this, though, drop me a line.

http://www.filefront.com/16475647/zsr_youtubechoosegames.wmv/ (http://www.filefront.com/16475647/zsr_youtubechoosegames.wmv/)

The video I made for those that can't find it.

Edit: Upload away.  Also, post a link of the vids here so I can go through the videos and look at the responses posted in the comments.

Hopefully, I should have a mark I schedule up next week sometime.

Guys, what's up with the lack of Link's crossbow training?

Does that even count? We also didn't consider the CD-i games, but do you honestly want that?

Spinoff games obviously don't count for shit. Wheres my tetra's trackers and tingle's rosy rupee speedruns? :P

FINE I'll do my own one game marathon of link's crossbow training  :P

Oh my god, I am back and I couldn't have picked a worse time.

I really want to help with this marathon, yet I lack internet in my apartment. Yeah, I just got myself an apartment, it's sweet!

However, the sad part is I'm low on money. No job means managing money more.

I was originally going to be a commentator, but I'm gonna have to drop out of that unless I can afford internet by then.

If you guys need any other help though, I'll see what I can do.

I haven't been keeping up with this marathon enough, so I don't know if OoT is being done in more than 1 way or not.... I'll be glad to back-up or do a run if I'm available on the date.

Is RG the main Any% guy at this moment, or are you guiys doing single-segment with Pokey or what?

Either way, if I can't do a run I'll be glad to be a chat mod or help in any other way such as advertising on youtube or whatever you guys need.

Turns out, if I'm lucky, I can leech off of other Wi-Fi signals in my building. So, it should help until I can get internet. I wouldn't mind being a chat mod. I know how to deal with chat stuff and it'd be kind of fun.

I'd say a bunch of the ZSR guys will definitely have mod status during the chat, so you could probably have that :P

I'll be the first to say I won't let the power go to my head. Just let me know if a signup for chat mods goes up or I can just keep checking here. Either way, I can't wait for this marathon. It will be the most epic of all things epic!

Bit of an update. The marathon is getting closer to being prepared.

THINGS THAT STILL NEED TO BE DONE:

- 4 Swords Adventures Player
- Player bio's
- Timeslots
- Pick a charity
- Advertise (after the rest has been decided)

A list of Zelda and/or speedrunning related sites:
(I have no idea how active some of these are, I just scraped affiliate lists)

Nearly all of these places have forums, and this is just Zelda-related sites for the most part. ANY WEBSITE THAT DISCUSSES VIDEO GAMES SHOULD BE ADVERTISED TO imo.

Well, that's shit that needs to get done. (Except advertising, that's later.)

I'll do FSA if no one else volunteers.

Also, I'm working on my bio right now.  You'll get it soon.

I can do FSA too.

Guys, I'm making the schedule tonight.  Anyone that hasnt voted for their top 4 games (not including OoT or MM) should PM me sometime TODAY.

All I ask is don't make PH and ST back to back.

Everyone needs to stream a playthrough of the game they plan on running for the marathon. We need to make sure people have a stable connection/good enough quality to stream, and are actually good at the game.

... You sneaky devil. this is so I have to play wind waker once before the marathon isn't it?
ISNT IT e_e

I might DQ myself from the marathon by streaming my 100% playthrough of MM this weekend.

guays ->http://www.ustream.tv/channel/zerogx<-
enter now. zph

MARATHON SCHEDULE
V0.2

**starts Fri at 9PM EST
9:00PM - 10:45PM LTTP
10:45PM - 3:45AM ORACLES
---------------
3:45AM - 7:45AM PH
7:45AM - 2:35PM ST
2:35PM - 7:20PM TP
7:20PM - 8:20PM LOZ
8:20PM - 10:30PM MM
10:30PM - 12:10AM LA
---------------
12:10AM - 1:20AM AOL
1:20AM - 1:50AM FS
1:50AM - 5:20AM FSA
5:20AM - 7:45AM TMC
7:45AM - 3:15PM WW
3:15PM - 4:35PM OOT
4:35PM - 9:00PM races

**all times are EST

Er my mistake. Can you make it so I wont wake up super early OR stay up all night? :/

There's only so much I can do...

And besides, I don't quite follow.  You'll have to elaborate a bit, what times are you looking to play at?

So it's split up into Friday, Saturday and Sunday? Sweet.

That should work for me to help with the chat. I plan on viewing the whole marathon anyway, so the order of games is okay for me. OoT is an epic way to finish the marathon!

What are the dates again?

EDIT: Never mind. I checked the other topic. I've got that weekend marked down on my calendar.

12am(morning) to 11 pm. PST

That schedule sounds good to me (I can wing it)

EDIT: Also, I did a playthrough on stream today, for like, 11 hours wireless.
I think I'm good to go for stream consistency

Haha wow, I gotta get up at 5AM to play TMC? Well, I figured this would happen. Ah well.

I need to setup a proper streaming setup, because right now it's:

Me, Laptop, Dazzle, Wii and TV upstairs

Computer, Router downstairs

I don't get the best connection that way :I Should I move my tv downstairs for test-streams?

We'd lose an entire day of primetime watching, I can't do that.

Makes sense. As said by others as well, the schedule looks fine and it probably shouldn't be changed.

Well then. Let's keep the V2 schedule.

Sorry to bring this up again, but I haven't received a definitive answer yet:

I'd like to be a chat mod for the marathon (the internet's up and working and I'll be getting my own soon anyway) and I don't know what's required to do so. Do I just show up in the IRC during the marathon or how are we going to do this? I just know I'll be bored if I can't help with the marathon in some way (I may not be able to donate due to limited income.).

Thanks for any answers!

What's your ustream name, I'll add you to the permamod list

Haha sorry BSR, I just gave everyone who was running permamod on /channel/zsr-marathon... You weren't online when I scanned the channel for familiar faces :P


Also, my question from my post on the last page still stands.

BlueStar81089.

But if Blizz is being serious, I guess it's too late. Guess there's no point in me watching now  :P

EDIT: I misunderstood Blizz's post. I thought he was saying that I couldn't be a mod when he was only saying that he didn't see me when he first assigned the mods to the channel.

Thanks for adding me, Ani!

Also, what will our chat rules be? We should discuss these so that we're not kicking people just because we feel like it.

Here's the rules that the Speed Gamers here as an example but we can change something if we're okay with it:

- Do not post the same thing repeatedly
- Do not type in all Caps
-Do not make very long posts
-Do not swear
-Be respectful
- Never give out or ask for any personal information

I'd definitely like being a mod for the chat. My Ustream name is the same name that I use on the forums.
This may be unnecessary with Ustream's auto-censor, unless we'd want to ban all forms of cursing outright. I'd be fine with that decision, but the commentators would have to live up to that same ruling if we banned all swearing.

I say we just try to make it kid-friendly for the charity's sake. Acting mature, at least in terms of language, seems to work well for The Speed Gamers, plus it helps bring in donations. People aren't going to want to donate if they see people cussing like sailors.

I ,personally, swear like this in offline life, but when it comes down to what we're doing this for (the charity), it's probably best to talk normally. We can express ourselves differently. God, I feel sappy after saying that, but I'm sure most will agree.

Also, I posted this on the SDA topic that SD2 made, but I'll ask it here, too:

I notice that the games each have their own time slot. My question deals with completing each game before the time slot is up. Are we going to be strict with the schedule or are we just going to play it by ear? If a game is not completed before the next game is scheduled to start, I think we should put the previous game on hold and start the next one. This could work as long as we don't have this happen for each game.

I ultimately think that the runners will do fine getting the games done on time, but we should make a backup plan, just in case.

I thought we had decided on childsplay....

I thought we intended to start on a friday so peoplecan find us at work.Nobody is going to work at 9PM. It's the worst slot to start a marathon on, imo. It's called deathslot for TV shows for a reason.

And I still think we should play LA and ALttP with warpglitches.We want a great time to attractmore viewers. We can play them in full after the main marathon is through.

That's not how marathon works. In a marathon one game should be played after the other. The shedule is just a guideline. So if we are 3 hours in front of the shedule on day 3 that's just the way it is... we could slide games around to keep more popular games in arimetime slotbut that's about it.

Central time would be one hour behind this, right? I'm just asking because I'm in Central time and I want to make sure I start watching at the right time. Anybody who's also in Central time or who knows the time difference, please answer.

Thanks!

I'm Central Time. 4:00pm EST = 3:00pm CST.

Slowi:

We can't start the marathon any earlier, or we put Ocarina of Time in a terrible timeslot.  And I don't know about you, but I'd prefer to go out with a bang instead of with some game that nobody wants to watch.  We could start later, but we go too late and we lose viewers in EST and AST timezones.

I know Tompa plans on doing both a glitched run and a regular run with his aLttP timeslot (if he still runs them), but LA is so damn luckbased it'll be pretty much impossible to do a decent run.  You go a frame late on one screenwarp and you're done, simple as that.  I could do attempts after the marathon, but it'll likely take well over an hour to pull out a completed run, let alone a good one.

Just FYI: my testrun for the LA screenwarping run took over 100 attempts to finish because I would die to the boss, get stuck trying to screenwarp, or messing up some other screenwarp, causing the final boss to not play the way I want it to.

Slowi:

In the first place, I wasn't talking about being ahead of schedule. I was talking about being behind schedule. If one game is taking too long to finish due to problems outside our control (stream going out, connections dropping, etc), we'll never get to the next game. We have to stay on time or else we won't make our 48-hour goal. Not to be rude, but I really wish you would've read what I wrote more carefully.

Of course, if we finish a game early, then we move on. It's a good thing if that happens. I'm just saying that we should allow for inconveniences that might happen.

That is, in fact, what you said:


Regardless, I would say deal with those issues as they come. The person running the next game should be prepared to play both early and late.

In my opinion, things I see as important still:
1) Getting a charity to accept us (hopefully Child's Play)
2) Means having the site be organized completely; the charity is probably going to want to check us out and they don't want to see pages that aren't complete.
3) Testing people's streams to make sure all technical aspects are fine, as well as finalizing backups, commentators, and stuff (Zelda II still needs a runner I think).
4) Practice...

Oops. You're right, RG. Sorry about that! I guess I made a mistake in my typing and apologies to Slowi if I came across as being rude.

I agree with your other points as well. There's still a lot to be done before the 9th-11th.

Can you guys translate the V2 marathon times to PST?

Subtract 3 hours you nub.

We need to contact a charity ASAP and then ADVERTISE A LOT.  Like email Kotaku, Penny Arcade, Joystiq, or whoever else.  Everyone who likes gaming should know about this before it happens.

Considering that no one else wanted to do this, I mocked up the letter that we would send to the charities. It's a little rough around the edges, and my writing is a bit rusty from not having to write essays for a while, but it should be a good starting point:

Dear [Charity],

We here at ZeldaSpeedRuns are going to be raising money in a gaming marathon and would like to benefit a charity. We have looked into your organization and were wondering if you would like to sponsor us. We will be speedrunning the entire Zelda series for 48 hours straight, and we expect to finish well within the established timeframe. The marathon will begin at 9 PM EST on Friday, July 9th, and will end at 9PM EST on Sunday, July 11th.

This is not the first time that ZSR has done a marathon; we have previously completed the four 3D Zelda games in less than 20 hours [Don’t we have the videos saved somewhere? We should link to them if we do]. We have also taken great care not to schedule our marathon haphazardly; by using the results of a Youtube poll [should we provide the link?], we have carefully constructed an itinerary that will maximize the number of viewers and, consequentially, maximize the number of donations. [I remember someone saying something about the highest donator choosing the file name for the next game or the last game we play or something like that. If there are any definite details on that, include it here.]

As you should be able to see, we are taking this marathon very seriously, and we would deeply appreciate your cooperation. If you would like more information on the marathon, visit http://marathon.zeldaspeedruns.com/ [BLIZZ, FINISH THESE PAGES]; if you have any additional questions, [insert some way for them to contact us]. With your help, we can make this an entertaining and beneficial experience for all.

With regards,
The ZSR Team

Zelda Series* perhaps?

Just letting you guys know that I have some good news.

I will be setting up my internet account with the local phone company either sometime this week or early next week, so I should be set for the marathon and able to help with the chat. Thing is, I haven't heard back from Ani with word if he's added me as a mod yet or not. No worry, I can be very patient.

If there's anything else that you guys think I could do to help with the marathon (like make a promotion video, as I'll be downloading my recording stuff once I get my own internet), let me know here or send me a PM and I'll see what I can do.

Let's keep up the good work, guys!

Well if we don't meet the goal we don't meet the goal. Cutting out parts of games would be cheating.


Btw. what does it really matter with what game we end? It's important with what game we start and when. We are doing this for charity,which means atracting as much people as possible. Not giving them a bang at the end. You can't start this marathon in the death slot.

I'm sorry, why don't you make the schedule then?

Just ignore Slowking, SD2. He's just bitching and moaning to get a rise out of you. I, and many others, think you did fine with the schedule and that there's no need to make changes. I say we go with the schedule as planned but, in regards to what you told Slowi, I feel if someone doesn't like it, they should either try to make a better one or just shut up and accept it.

I was giving you facts. Fact is nobody but us will tune in on a friday evening. But if you don't want to listen to me that's your problem.

To say it in german: Macht doch euren Scheiß alleine!