WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

[Razor7581]

Going into a scene with the camera locked softlocks the game, as far as I can tell. So superswim is a no-go.

Interesting thing to note.

[Phazon]

Why skip FW with superswim? You could have finished FW long before the forest water expires.

Eh, what do you mean by softlock?

[KlydeStorm]

A softlock is when the game prevents all input, but the game is still running and hasn't crashed.

[Razor7581]

Why skip FW with superswim? You could have finished FW long before the forest water expires.

Eh, what do you mean by softlock?

I'm working with the timer.
EDIT:
Moved the route to any% route disscusion. I will still post updates here, but go there for the full, current, unfinished route.

[Thegargoylevine]

Could these glitches be of any use?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwgTUJhr88Q&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wb4a4kzRfc

[Razor7581]

Could these glitches be of any use?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwgTUJhr88Q&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wb4a4kzRfc

Don't plan on using moblin slide because it requires fire/ice arrows. I don't know about the Tingle Tuner glitch though, but thanks for the help!

[RingRush]

We can and will use the (already known, sorry) moblin slide because the run will get Fire/Ice Arrows. Why? Because you need them to get Power Bracelet and Iron Boots which you need for Earth Temple and Wind Temple respectively. Both of these need to be beaten to dispell the barrier.

Please, please stop treating the game as if barrier skip has already been found. It hasn't, despite many people spending a lot of time on the trick. Maybe it will be found one day, but the chances of that are looking slimmer and slimmer. Even if it is ever found, it is useless talking about it now. As much as you'ld like to believe otherwise, we have no idea what items it will require. I can guarantee you that three years ago, if somebody said "I found a hover glitch," nobody would expect it to involve Tingle Tuner. The point is, when it comes to route discussion, stick with tricks that exist. Tricks that don't exist are impossible to route since we don't know what they require. Oh yeah, and here is the key thing: tricks that do not exist do not exist. Barrier skip is impossible until proven otherwise.

[Razor7581]

We can and will use the (already known, sorry) moblin slide because the run will get Fire/Ice Arrows. Why? Because you need them to get Power Bracelet and Iron Boots which you need for Earth Temple and Wind Temple respectively. Both of these need to be beaten to dispell the barrier.

Please, please stop treating the game as if barrier skip has already been found. It hasn't, despite many people spending a lot of time on the trick. Maybe it will be found one day, but the chances of that are looking slimmer and slimmer. Even if it is ever found, it is useless talking about it now. As much as you'ld like to believe otherwise, we have no idea what items it will require. I can guarantee you that three years ago, if somebody said "I found a hover glitch," nobody would expect it to involve Tingle Tuner. The point is, when it comes to route discussion, stick with tricks that exist. Tricks that don't exist are impossible to route since we don't know what they require. Oh yeah, and here is the key thing: tricks that do not exist do not exist. Barrier skip is impossible until proven otherwise.

Thanks for the input, but I don't need you to tell me how to write the route, RingRush. I'm the one who stepped up in volunteering to write the route and I'll write it in the best, most timely manner for the game.

[AniMeowzerz]

Thanks for the input, but I don't need you to tell me how to write the route, RingRush. I'm the one who stepped up in volunteering to write the route and I'll write it in the best, most timely manner for the game.

Nobody asked for a volunteer sorry bro

[Razor7581]

Nobody asked for a volunteer sorry bro

I know, but nobody else was making a move to volunteer either.

[bluephantom340]

Thanks for the input, but I don't need you to tell me how to write the route, RingRush. I'm the one who stepped up in volunteering to write the route and I'll write it in the best, most timely manner for the game.

So I assume you're gonna show us a barrier skip video? Yeah, I thought so.

[TheFrigz]

Razor, I made an account just for the sake of telling you: don't be stupid.  Don't route something that isn't yet possible for the game.  That would be the equivalent of me routing MM with some sort of "finish the game without beating all four temples" trick.  It's never been done, and until it has, it's a waste of time to try and figure out how the game will be ran should it be discovered.

[Paraxade]

Razor personally I couldn't care less about your routes as long as they're impossible. If you wanna route the theoretical barrier skip route for fun then fine, but if you're going to write off the routes that are actually possible right now then you're just being stupid.

[Razor7581]

Razor personally I couldn't care less about your routes as long as they're impossible. If you wanna route the theoretical barrier skip route for fun then fine, but if you're going to write off the routes that are actually possible right now then you're just being stupid.

Paraxade, I'm not writing any more of the route until I test it and make sure that it is possible and timely. Everything that I have written for the route so far have tested and preformed myself. This is why I won't post the next section, or any section for that matter,  of the route for a while because I'm still testing it at the moment.

[Paraxade]

Why are you saying we aren't getting fire/ice arrows then :/