WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

[GlitchesAndStuff]

I have seen a shitload of tricks in OoT and MM that were considered TAS only. Sooner or later some runners could do all of them consistntly on console... well maybe except the Tektite hover in OoT, but that's really the only one console runners can't do.

Even if a barriere skip found by TASing would only have a one frame window, it would still be viable, since it would be at the beginning of a segment.

I agree with this.

Anyway, I've found a way to get onto the side wall of the bridge where the barrier is, without zombie hovering or dying. you can't hang off either side though so no chance of hang clip. I'll have a video up soon.

[Slowking]

I agree with this.

Anyway, I've found a way to get onto the side wall of the bridge where the barrier is, without zombie hovering or dying. you can't hang off either side though so no chance of hang clip. I'll have a video up soon.

hmm but maybe you can do something with forest water clip in there... probably not but maybe.

[GlitchesAndStuff]

Anyway, I've found a way to get onto the side wall of the bridge where the barrier is, without zombie hovering or dying. you can't hang off either side though so no chance of hang clip. I'll have a video up soon.

and here's the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7nXt-WbZJI
needs double magic

[Razor]

and here's the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7nXt-WbZJI
needs double magic

Interesting find, though for the most optimized barrier skip, we won't have the hookshot. Anyway, I found a new forest water glitch yesterday. I'll try to put a video up soon, but windows movie maker is glitching up. Does anyone know what to do when it says there is no camera attached, but it is and it's turned on? I can't figure it out.

[NOKAUBURE]

so, if we skip the first barrier, there are a 2nd barrier, and then a 3rd barrier?! lmao 3 barriers, nintendo is very crazy 

[Phazon]

Screw optimisation. If you need the Hookshot to get behind the barrier then use it. It's a million times better than nothing.

By the way I noticed yesterday that under the bridge outside HC, there is an object you can target with your Boomerang, which you can't hit because the bridge is in the way. I don't know what's down there that the Boomerang is targetting. It's probably nothing interesting, but I'm kinda curious.

[KlydeStorm]

so, if we skip the first barrier, there are a 2nd barrier, and then a 3rd barrier?! lmao 3 barriers, nintendo is very crazy 

No, there's only 2. Wall and damage.

[GlitchesAndStuff]

Okay Guys I think I can get barrier skip. It's a TAS only and it'll be really hard to pull off if I ever do. I need a savestate on dolphin to test. I need one at hyrule just after you have the triforce of courage (so It has hookshot).

[Phazon]

What's the plan?

[Razor]

Okay Guys I think I can get barrier skip. It's a TAS only and it'll be really hard to pull off if I ever do. I need a savestate on dolphin to test. I need one at hyrule just after you have the triforce of courage (so It has hookshot).

I'd like to see what you plan to do because it sounds interesting. Excuse my statements, but even if you do get it to work--which would be great--it would be useful only as a guiding idea. First of all, if it's after we get the ToC then it's next to useless for skipping only the darknut battle. Also, if it's TAS only then we get to wastefully sped more time seeing if it is console-possible. Never the less, I'd like to see what you're planning to do so that I can work with it. Good work, though!

[GlitchesAndStuff]

I'd like to see what you plan to do because it sounds interesting. Excuse my statements, but even if you do get it to work--which would be great--it would be useful only as a guiding idea. First of all, if it's after we get the ToC then it's next to useless for skipping only the darknut battle. Also, if it's TAS only then we get to wastefully sped more time seeing if it is console-possible. Never the less, I'd like to see what you're planning to do so that I can work with it. Good work, though!

Okay, so. After getting on the side wall and past the damage barrier (with wind waker), I wind waker dived off the edge and then after falling for a while I canceled it and took out my leaf and I got past the barrier.

so, I got past the barrier...
the problem was that I was miles down under the ground...

but I recently found out that you can use the wind waker with 0 hearts if you mash it after knockback. So if I can lose my last heart with knockback and fly back into an un-exploded bomb, and ge out the wind waker, I could possibly pull out the wind waker and dive off the edge with 0 hearts. After I have fell for a while I can cancel the wind waker and start hovering up to ganon's castle entrance.

so if you want to try then please, do.

[Razor]

Okay, so. After getting on the side wall and past the damage barrier (with wind waker), I wind waker dived off the edge and then after falling for a while I canceled it and took out my leaf and I got past the barrier.

so, I got past the barrier...
the problem was that I was miles down under the ground...

but I recently found out that you can use the wind waker with 0 hearts if you mash it after knockback. So if I can lose my last heart with knockback and fly back into an un-exploded bomb, and ge out the wind waker, I could possibly pull out the wind waker and dive off the edge with 0 hearts. After I have fell for a while I can cancel the wind waker and start hovering up to ganon's castle entrance.

so if you want to try then please, do.

Sounds interesting, however, it also sounds incredibly difficult. We'd have to hope that when link dies upon entering GT that he is not warped back out to before the barrier. I would still love to see a video of this, and hope that with some work, we can optimize it even more.

[Slowking]

but I recently found out that you can use the wind waker with 0 hearts if you mash it after knockback. So if I can lose my last heart with knockback and fly back into an un-exploded bomb, and ge out the wind waker, I could possibly pull out the wind waker and dive off the edge with 0 hearts. After I have fell for a while I can cancel the wind waker and start hovering up to ganon's castle entrance.

so if you want to try then please, do.

Hmm you can use a bomb to push you off ledges to make WW dive easier. Don't you take damage while doing that? If so just let the bomb push you off while having WW out, fall far enough to be outside the damage barriere (shouldn't be that low the invisible wall is the one thats high) and then start zombie hover...

On the other hand. If we can start WW dive while being dead we could die at korl, zombie hover to the bridge, ww dive down and continue zombie hovering. That would skip the hookshot and would make H1 -> GT possible... but it would be insanely hard.

Sounds interesting, however, it also sounds incredibly difficult. We'd have to hope that when link dies upon entering GT that he is not warped back out to before the barrier. I would still love to see a video of this, and hope that with some work, we can optimize it even more.

If you get into GTs loading zone you are golden.

[Dashiamo]

Hope it works, I'd love to test it but I only have a file at hyrule 1. If it works then all we need to do is get on the side during hyrule 1/2. Maybe I'll try to find a way of doing that without hookshot and double magic.

[Razor]

Hmm you can use a bomb to push you off ledges to make WW dive easier. Don't you take damage while doing that? If so just let the bomb push you off while having WW out, fall far enough to be outside the damage barriere (shouldn't be that low the invisible wall is the one thats high) and then start zombie hover...

On the other hand. If we can start WW dive while being dead we could die at korl, zombie hover to the bridge, ww dive down and continue zombie hovering. That would skip the hookshot and would make H1 -> GT possible... but it would be insanely hard.
If you get into GTs loading zone you are golden.

Either way it would be insanely difficult. But if it works it's worth it.