WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

[smellyfeetyouhave]

The boomerang lock-on thing is known. Not sure about the second one

All right.

Just did a WW dive off of the ledge and flew the deku leaf over.  When I hit a certain spot near the loading zone, the game did what would happen if I fell of the ledge with no windwaker dive, and teleported me back to the castle. So even if there was a spot to land, it still seems to not work.

Edit: I know most of this stuff is probably already known.  If it is known just let me know.  I'm new to Windwaker and speedrunning in general.


Edit 2:  Does the knockback barrier apply under the map? I looked at the picture on the tricks page and it wasn't very clear.  If not, would it be possible in a TAS to drop a bomb off the edge, WW dive under the map, land on the bomb when it explodes, and zombie hover up?

[Pedalpowertoast]

If you get hit by a bomb in the air, you fall down and theres nothing to land on :/

[smellyfeetyouhave]

If you get hit by a bomb in the air, you fall down and theres nothing to land on :/

Yeah, forgot that you had to land on something to do the trick. Still getting a hold of all of these tricks.
I should probably learn the game before I mess with this kind of stuff.

[smellyfeetyouhave]

Not sure if this is useful, but I found a spot to get dry storage on the barrier side of Hyrule.  If you go onto the roof of the castle (via the method to get on the ledge on NTSC), you can WW dive off of the roof and get storage.

[Razor7581]

Not sure if this is useful, but I found a spot to get dry storage on the barrier side of Hyrule.  If you go onto the roof of the castle (via the method to get on the ledge on NTSC), you can WW dive off of the roof and get storage.  Might be useful to someone who knows how to exploit storage properly.  You could probably use bombs to push you off of the lower ledge to get storage as well.

Yes, GlitchesandStuff did some extensive experiments with dives off of the roof quite a while ago before dry storage was discovered. The problem is that even though we can get storage at multiple locations around Hyrule Castle, there is currently no way to exploit the properties of storage that would allow as to go through the barrier, as there are no doors for door cancel and no known ways to replicate the effects of door cancel without a door.

[nekotan]

Sup, everyone. Last night Deadeyesx311 on Twitch told me there was a way to solve Hyrule puzzle with one block. I believed him and spent forever figuring out how it works. This is how it works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71tRWqtIDMs

Storage has no effect on the block placement, it's entirely done by the game itself. This is not faster than vanilla, it's slower by ~10 seconds.

[UYNiko]

I saw someone sent a Zephos skip to Cosmo a moment ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqZvn4daQBs&list=HL1375750765&feature=mh_lolz

I started messing with it and  double storage is not needed, you have a chance of getting the cutscene anyway but is possible to do it with only one storage. I timed it and saves something like 30s or 40s if done perfectly, I did it in the video with second try storage and saved 30+ seconds (too lazy to record it again xD).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ7CHCnAZj0

I tested this a little more with the guy who discover this and looks like depends of your position when you pull the wind waker, I think if the game don't have to change your position you get the skip... there is a chance to get half of the cutscene by the way, Zephos will talk to you once then the cutscene will end and the actor of Zephos will stay, you are free to move if that happen.
If you check the stone too far away you wont be able to get the song at all.

Edit: nevermind, seems to be random.

[Demon9]

I'm gonna test this

[wooferzfg1]

s33y00 retimed a DRC storage route I tested a while ago and found it to be 40-45 seconds faster than the regular tunerless route.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clzLWTBwklU
EDIT (full route): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufmkgdfWgNA

If you miss the jump slash off the block, you can't get back up, but it's very consistent if you get the timing down (s33y00 got it like 10 times in a row while testing this route).

EDIT: jump slash is actually not required, if you just hold up Link will get on the ledge.

The video says 52 seconds, but you need to get crushed under the table later to be able to climb the ladder, and this is about 9 seconds slower. If you miss the storage, you can still get storage with pots instead of climbing the ladder, which isn't too difficult with practice. You also have to pull out the block in the main room all the way out so it stays out when you come back.

[wooferzfg1]

Nice route. Is that part outside reliable or can you fall off quickly?

It's very reliable, can be 100% consistent with practice.

[UYNiko]

I played around with this sometime ago and I can't belive I did not think of going to the left, I feel like an idiot now xD.

By the way you can get storage using one of the vase in the lower level and you don't need the water to get across the lava after the chest storage, you can jump and land in the wall (I think that is what is happening, is kinda hard to tell).

Edit: s33y00 forgot to grab the key in the old route

nevermind

[wooferzfg1]

By the way you can get storage using one of the vase in the lower level and you don't need the water to get across the lava after the chest storage, you can jump and land in the wall

It's faster to do the storage that s33y00 did. If you fail that, however, you can easily go for the pot storage as a backup.

Skipping the vase may be possible, but since storing the chest makes it impossible to see what's going on, it's a lot easier and safer to use the vase, since the lava is pretty much the only thing you can see on the screen.

EDIT: Tried this myself, wasn't too difficult. A bit risky since you can't see much, but definitely consistent and saves a few seconds.

[s33y00]

For those of you thinking it's too risky because of the storage spot, here is the backup strat if you don't get swedish storage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veP6RVZ5wg0

[UYNiko]

Is easier to use the pot on the other side, it will not move too much, I used it yesterday on the race.

http://www.twitch.tv/uyniko/c/2734037

To be honest I don't know if is slower than the swedish storage.

[gymnast86]

Wierd thing happened today. Was battling the mighty Darknuts at the end of the game when i accidentally jumpslashed on of them and it caught on fire
http://www.twitch.tv/gymnast86/c/2735145