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Author Topic: WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion  (Read 1000721 times)
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« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2009, 07:51:10 am »

If you have no bombs Gohdan may give you some. He's the only reason you need bombs in ToG iirc.

Just to clarify, because I don't fully understand... You damage boost of a shark into the fadeout of Windfall Island during the cursed night and you will appear at one of the corners of the Great Sea, drown and warp to ToG without bombs?

I'm going to test this right now.

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If this can be pulled off in a run, then doesn't that mean you don't need to place the pearls?

EDIT:

I thought the fade-out was on the way to WFI after the cutscene on GFI, but I must have been wrong because there was no fade-out. Where is it then?
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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2009, 03:56:09 pm »

It is on the way there as you thought, but like Sparkle said, sometimes the fadeout doesn't happen. I'd say it's near the lower bottom corner of the quadrant WFI's on.

Yeah, gohdan's the only part you actually need bombs for unless you're doing 100% then you'd need it for one of the walls to get a treasure chart. Wink
I might try to test this out myself too, by swimming into the fadeout rather than damage boosting. that seems like it would be a pain in the ass to set up
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« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2009, 04:40:28 pm »

I've had no luck finding the fade-out spot. I think there's something that i'm missing. I mean in my normal playthroughs I remember getting the fade-out pretty much everytime. So it only makes sense that a direct path from GFI to WFI would activate it. I saved in the quadrent between GFI and WFI so idk if that did anything, but I don't think the fade-out is going to happen.
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« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2009, 06:02:42 am »

The fade out in question happened in TSA's run. Thats the only place I know of that has a fade out. I may have worded it wrong, but the tower is not there, if I remember correctly. It has been a while, but I would really kick myself for noticing, if I'm wrong...

No idea if Gohdan gives you bombs, but yeah it does make sense?  Someone with cheats go test it.
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« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2009, 09:25:14 am »

If there's no ToG, then you need bombs to get the 3rd pearl anyway. I see no reason why ToG would be there at that point though :/

I have had the fadeout in the past, multiple times. I have no idea what triggers it though. I think it's something earlier in the game. Maybe i'll copy what TSA does and see if I get it :/
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« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2009, 01:00:17 am »

Okay, I understand what Sparkle meant now: You get warped to the quadrant. You don't warp inside ToG.
But as you said, you get warped to D4, except ToG's in the quadrant to the right of that lol. You get warped to six-eye reef.

I'll try and get a video of the trick, got it in my first try surprisingly enough Smiley (not damage boosting, but damage boosting INTO it I got on my first try lmao)

EDIT: I cannot get the fadeout to happen when I start from Greatfish Island. I think that might be the problem
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« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2009, 05:16:19 am »

Awesome man. Now go see the insanity that is trying it again.
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« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2009, 09:01:52 pm »

One of these tricks might be useful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szqcnoDD7Wk&feature=player_profilepage

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Windfall Island cutscene skip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgsprfi3RLE

DRC: Jump past sidle ledges:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRSTtOXf1Ew

Forsaken Fortress OoB:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn0k-LL8ZrA

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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2009, 04:40:48 am »

The alternate DRC early boss key is slower then the older Bridge Jump method ZFG found, it looks like. Harder too. But still cool idea, much much easier than Unreal's original method. Awesome still, man.

Moblin SS so you jump off the stairs for Hyrule OoB? Cool idea, sadly that jumping off the stairs may get in the way of Moblin SSing there being faster, even in a TAS.

These are just my initial thoughts...
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« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2009, 08:10:01 am »

Nice finds. I didn't know about that method of DRCBKSC or the FF OoB, although I don't know if it is OoB. I tried to do that right angle jump in DRC and I could never get it either so thanks for the uploads.

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I'm pretty sure I tried to leave FF at that point and was stopped by an invisible wall. Are you using NTSC version of WW?
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« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2009, 01:12:57 pm »

I'm pretty sure I tried to leave FF at that point and was stopped by an invisible wall. Are you using NTSC version of WW?

Yeah I am. why? Do you think that they may have it fixed in other versions?

The alternate DRC early boss key is slower then the older Bridge Jump method ZFG found, it looks like. Harder too. But still cool idea, much much easier than Unreal's original method. Awesome still, man.

I find an easy way to know the timing (at least after you get burned) is, I hold L right away slash my sword ones so it hits the jar then jump slash then run over the the ledge and wait a second (or a little more) then jump off. it seems to work almost 1/3 of the time then.

I've also been trying the Lava cutscene skip seems like it's almost impossible. (I it to work I might just be doing them wrong)

And I guess I'll post this because I didn't post it in my last post.

LoZ WW hyrule path OoB:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgnyrnJfjPo
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« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2009, 07:17:01 pm »

I'm pretty sure escaping FF is NTSC only, but i'll test it eventually just to be sure.

Lava cutscene skip shouldn't be causing any problems. When you enter the room turn the camera very slightly left, then pick up a water pot, throw it and jump as soon as possible to where you threw it. You should notice a short pause, but no actual cutscene.

Cool find with the moblin slide.

EDIT:

Isn't there a glitch where you can throw a deku stick through to another room?
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« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2009, 03:16:58 am »

So I did some more videos... Well that's all.

DRC Jump slash over lava:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAVBpzh7lQY

LoZ WW Skip hookshot to Ganon's castle / Parry glitch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wHQ95Pb13I&feature=channel

Edit:

Door clip / OoB King of Red Lions:
Discovered by MrSparkle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohmgbx3BIVw



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« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2009, 04:39:11 pm »

The "faster" Chu Parry seems only barely faster than the regular one. You have to side-hop, roll, pull out your sword without targetting or you'll hit the wall and waste time, jumpslash, which hits the wall and sends you back far enough for the parry command to appear and even then you don't get much time to react.

Climbing the ladder is the fastest way imo.
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« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2009, 02:05:10 am »

Here is a way to get to even higher heights.

backward/forward Bomb boost:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UGx6qVWqRA

Doing the Backward Bomb Boost is much easier then doing
the forward bomb boost, but you don't go as high.

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Forbidden Woods tentacle maze skip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udoIuvz2L4c
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