WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion
TrogWW:
Quote from: TrogWW on October 12, 2015, 10:46:28 PM
This is really clever, will look into this more for TAS strats.
Looked a little more into this. You can just use the roll clip escape Gym found and superswim to the end of the water and void out. Much faster than activating some text and waiting to drown.
Even cooler though is that you can store the gossip stone then immediately save warp back to the pirate ship. And because you have the gossip stone you can reenter the pirate ship for bombs.
Too bad you need spoils to do this. Really only useful for like a 100% TAS as far as I can think of.
greatsnake:
Quote from: TrogWW on October 13, 2015, 04:18:18 AM
Looked a little more into this. You can just use the roll clip escape Gym found and superswim to the end of the water and void out. Much faster than activating some text and waiting to drown.
Even cooler though is that you can store the gossip stone then immediately save warp back to the pirate ship. And because you have the gossip stone you can reenter the pirate ship for bombs.
Too bad you need spoils to do this. Really only useful for like a 100% TAS as far as I can think of.
Do you need to store the cutscene before voiding out to respawn at FF1? And do you need to void out, or can you just drown, a more RTA-friendly option? That could skip a lot in RTA runs.
I never thought of reentering the ship after getting gossip stone. Does it warp you to Windfall when you leave?
Also, doesn't this mean that you can skip Nayru's pearl?
TrogWW:
Quote from: greatsnake on October 14, 2015, 12:49:39 AM
Do you need to store the cutscene before voiding out to respawn at FF1? And do you need to void out, or can you just drown, a more RTA-friendly option? That could skip a lot in RTA runs.
I never thought of reentering the ship after getting gossip stone. Does it warp you to Windfall when you leave?
Yup, all you have to do is store the cutscene then void out somehow. Drowning (like in your video) or falling out of the map are both viable options.
After you've voided out you'll spawn at FF1, just grab the gossip stone and save warp. It'll put you back on the pirate ship since you skipped the trigger that changes your respawn point.
Enter the pirate ship and you'll be able to get bombs, and yes, if you leave you'll spawn at Windfall.
Also, as long as you don't beat FF1, your savewarp will always take you back to FF1 pirate ship. Its very possible to just go through the game and get the master sword, then save warp to the FF1 pirate ship to escape Hyrule 1. Pretty cool :)
Unfortunately you will need KoRL at Hyrule 2 (the cutscene will softlock otherwise), so you'll be forced to beat FF1 before you go to FF2.
greatsnake:
Cool, now we can get bombs really early... kind of
gymnast86:
So, for anybody who doesn't know, there was a weird new trick discovered in Wind Waker last week (technically Ace had it happen to him back in January but he assumed it happened because of cheats, however I had it happen on console with no cheats). What this glitch does is set a flag that removes/unloads ALL the song stones in both Earth temple and Wind temple. What's weird about this glitch is that if you perform it, it will not apply to just the file you perform it on, rather it will apply to ALL files that you currently have, or then make. So if you were to start a new game after activating this flag, that new file would not have any song stones blocking the entrances to Earth and Wind temple which means you can easily enter them early. However, if the console is reset, and the game reloaded, the glitch disappears. When this happens, all song stones that have not been broken in game yet will appear back in their proper places.
Activating this flag requires a seemingly precise set of actions. This is a video showing my general route of how I set the flag to make the song stones disappear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdLq4ETq1pM
Other people have been able to activate the flag with slight variations on this general route through Wind temple. The only steps that we currently know of that are absolutely essential are: getting chest storage, and opening the door to the room with the final song stone in Wind temple (the A press). Once you open the door, the flag becomes set and all song stones are gone.
Even though it's possible to enter Earth temple and Wind temple early now, Medli and Makar do not appear in either of their respective temples because that has a separate flag which is dropping them into the loading zone of their respective dungeon (yes that is actually the flag). We messed around in Earth temple a little bit and realized that it is possible to complete the Earth temple without Medli! However, the same cannot be said for Wind temple as Makar is absolutely essential in the third and fourth rooms of the dungeon (planting trees). Also no, fake Makar does not exist unless Makar has already been in the dungeon. Currently this is the only thing stopping us from completely skipping Earth temple (as the only reason for completing Earth temple is to make Makar appear in the waterfall cave).
I encourage anybody interested to mess around with this. If we could find a way to do it in Earth Temple then we could end up skipping the cutscene going into wind temple which could save a little bit of time. Then this trick would be useful for RTA runs.
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