Sorry if this glitch has been brought up before

[Uberzelda64]

Going back to subject, what actually causes the ocarina on b?

[bluephantom340]

Going back to subject, what actually causes the ocarina on b?

Being swordless, I guess.

[darkeye14]

That's not exactly true; if that was the case, then Ocarina on B with Koume's Archery Game wouldn't work.
It probably has something to do with the B button changing, not becoming swordless. I may be forgetting something, but it seems that every method to get Ocarina on B changes what's on the B button in some shape or form.

[aleckermit]

"razor you are seriously a dumb fucker, just go away and kill yourself"

"Razor you're an idiot."

Jeez guys, ease up. Being a bit harsh don't you think?

[thiefbug]

what would happen if you bottle dupe over the ocarina, after playing SoT? (if possible... i'm a bit confused)

[darkeye14]

If you dupe over the Ocarina, the game thinks it's the First Cycle; Tatl talks to you and tells you what to do, and most of the actors in Termina Field are gone. You're basically stuck until the moon crashes, though, because Skull Kid won't be holding the Ocarina if you enter the Clock Tower; he only holds the Ocarina if your Ocarina slot has a value of FF (Empty).

[Kaztalek]

btw bottle dupe over ocarina then doing ocarina on b for bottle on b doesn't work if that's what you mean.

ocarina on b works the same as deku stick on b in oot; it's just the first value

[thiefbug]

so there'll be the ocarina again on the B button?

maybe it's just like the backflip in OoT, that you can change the value though a little "hint" like backflipping in OoT.

So maybe, while you climb down of Epona, mashing the C and the B Button (maybe exactly the bottle you duped over the ocarina) could change the value.

i don't know, but i think it is possible to change the value, when we're able to bring the B button back to the first (Ocarina) value.

[RingRush]

Stick --> Bottle only works in OoT because you are doing a normal bottle dupe, that just happens to be over the B button. Normal OoT bottle dupes don't work in MM. You would have to find a way to activate the B button in honey and darling (iirc ocarina dupe, like transformation mask dupes, doesn't require a pause) to dupe a bottle over ocarina. Even then it may not work.

Regardless, bottle on B has been tested in MM and it doesn't exactly offer much. In fact, I don't think there is any use to it.

[mzxrules]

Has it been tested in the Jap version though...

[darkeye14]

Yeah, it still does nothing.

Just because Power Crouch Stab works on J MM doesn't mean that every other OoT glitch will.

[thiefbug]

so it's impossible to perform RBA in MM, due to this is the only way to bring the first value onto the B button (is there any other?)

sad =(

[Nightwing]

No. AFAIK, it's impossible to RBA in MM because the B button has it's own offset to use as the pointer for bottles, unlike OoT, which uses the C-right button as the pointer for B bottles. Even if you could get a bottle on B, it would only have the same use as a bottle duped over empty C.

[Kaztalek]

It would work the same as duped bottle over ocarina, actually.