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« on: June 20, 2010, 09:24:21 PM »

[RESERVED FOR LOW% INFORMATION]

So people will stop being like "lolani whuts the route bro" and making me type it out :U

TRIFORCE ROUTE:
Warp to GFI
Set wind SW
Sail S 1 block, shoot down ship, enter building and get chart 1
Sail W 1 block, shoot down gold ship, fish out Chart 2
Sail S 1 block, Hookshot up, do maze shenanigans for ghost chart
Warp to Outset
Savage labyrinth for Chart 3
(If using Tingle Tuner strats and have Song of Passing already, use Tingle pot until 3184+ rupees)
Warp to Windfall
Ms. Mary and Killer Bees shenanigans for Cabana deed
(Optional: get Song of Passing while at windfall for gud Ghost Ship stuff)
Warp to ToG
Sail S 1 block, Enter Cabana, do Sewers for Chart 4
(Play song of passing, open up ghost chart, warp/sail to Ghost ship for chart 5)
(If no Song of Passing, apply it during Night inbetween whatever charts you want)
Warp to DRI
Set wind N
Sail NE, hookshot up, enter hole, give em the business, Chart 6
Warp to FH
Sail NE to Bird Rock
Nifty-ass grapple hook shenaynayguns, chart 7
Warp to SFI
Sail NW, pick up head, More business giving, chart 8
(If not using pro TT and SoP strats, do 101 rupee trick off the pillar in here until 3184+ rupees)

Warp to Tingle Island
Translate Charts, open charts
Warp to Windfall
Sail 1 N, Piece 1
Warp to DRI
Sail 1 N, Piece 2
Warp to FH
Sail E-NE, Piece 3
Warp to GFI, Piece 4
Set wind SE
Sail SE, Piece 5
Sail 1 E, Piece 6
Warp to Outset, Piece 7
Warp to SFI
Sail 1 S, Piece 8
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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2010, 06:23:22 PM »

With Cabana early, we can now get bottle instead of a heart piece (and delivery bag? or do you have to hit the loading zone to get into DRC?).

It should save a lot of time...no long hover to GFI.
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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2011, 02:56:19 PM »

Items Ani Obtained that can be Assigned to X, Y, or Z in Current Low%:
1. Telescope - Obtained in opening cutscene
2. Sail - Necessary for opening triforce charts
3. Wind Waker - Necessary for Conducting wind, obtained in DRI cutscene
4. Grappling Hook - Necessary to defeat Ghoma and obtain the triforce shards
5. Tingle Tuner - Used to heal after Hovers
6. Iron Boots - Necessary to activate switch in Wind Temple
7. Spoils Bag - Obtained as prize first time in Pirate Ship, used for Joy Pendants for Cabana Deed
8. Joy Pendants - Used to get Cabana Deed
9. Delivery Bag - Necessary to holding the Cabana Deed
10. Cabana Deed - Used to enter House on Cabana Island
11. Boomerang - Used to defeat Kalle Demos & Puppet Ganon's first cycle
12. Bow (Fire/Ice Arrows & Light Arrows) [Counts as 3 items] - Necessary to defeat Gohdan, F & I to enter Earth Temple, get Triforce chart (Power Bracelets), to enter and beat Wind Temple (Iron Boots)
13. Hookshot - Necessary to Defeat Molgera
14. Bombs - Used for various hovers
15. Skull Hammer - Used in Earth Temple, currently necessary to get if skipping deku leaf.

Total Item Count:17

Items in Yellow are either impossible to avoid or, currently, absolutely necessary to complete the game.
Items in Blue are necessary for time saving tricks and skipping other items.
Items in Red could be skipped.

Note: Even though the Delivery Bag and Spoils Bag cannot be equipped, I included them because their contents can be.


Other Items that are Possible to Skip:
1. Skull Hammer - Skipping would require to get Deku Leaf, wouldn't lower item count
2. Cabana Deed - Skipping would require bottle, but would eliminate need for Delivery bag; lowers item count 
3. Light Arrows - Skipping would require bottle, but if used for skipping Cabana Deed would be worth it. Skipping would also require skipping boomerang, as Puppet Ganon now can't be defeated.
4. Boomerang - Skipping would require bottle, but would be worth it if bottle is used for light arrow and cabana deed skip.
5. Delivery Bag - Skipping requires skipping Cabana Deed; obtaining the bottle, but is worth it

Note: To preserve skipping the delivery bag and the letter to Komali, the bottle in the submarine on the way to Forest Haven would be obtained instead of the one on Dragon Roost for use in holding forest water for storage.

Effect on Previous Item Chart:
1. Telescope - Same
2. Sail - Same
3. Wind Waker - Same
4. Grappling Hook - Same
5. Tingle Tuner - Same
6. Iron Boots - Same
7. Spoils Bag - Same
8. Joy Pendants - Not necessary as we skip the Cabana Deed
9. Delivery Bag - Not necessary as we no longer need it to carry the Cabana Deed
10. Cabana Deed - Skipped by obtaining the bottle
11. Boomerang - Skipped by obtaining the bottle
12 8. Bow (Fire/Ice Arrows & Light Arrows) - Same, Light arrows skipped by obtaining the bottle
9. Bottle - Used to hold forest water so storage can be preformed; allows for multiple other item skips to lower item count
13 10. Hookshot - Same
14 11. Bombs - Same
12. Skull Hammer - Skipped as it is no longer necessary to obtain       
12. Deku Leaf - Required to skip the light arrows and also allows for Trials Skip

Total Item Count: 13

As you can see, we lowered the previous item count by replacing the Delivery Bag, Cabana Deed, and Light Arrows with the bottle and utilizing already necessary to obtain items. The Deku leaf is obtained instead of the skull hammer because it is necessary in accessing the loading zone in order to skip the Light Arrows.

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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2011, 03:20:21 AM »

Responding to a really old post, but how are skull hammer and deku leaf interchangeable for item count? If you skip the leaf, you can't skip light arrows or the hammer. So you can either get the leaf and skip skull hammer & light arrows (2 items), or skip the leaf, and end up getting both skull hammer and light arrows (1 item)
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2011, 04:06:53 AM »

The BOTTLE is used to skip light arrows, it doesn't matter if you have the leaf or not.

The TRIALS however do, so if you skip the leaf, you can't skip the trials
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2011, 07:31:58 AM »

You don't need the leaf to skip the trials do you? You can just hover to clip past the door afaik.
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2011, 05:41:09 PM »

You can't. Even if you could, Tingle can't come in Ganon's Castle, so you'd immediately die and get taken back before the trials.
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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2011, 05:55:30 AM »

What door am I thinking of then? I'm p sure it is the same door even if it ultimately doesn't matter lol.
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2011, 04:30:12 PM »

The BOTTLE is used to skip light arrows, it doesn't matter if you have the leaf or not.

The TRIALS however do, so if you skip the leaf, you can't skip the trials
The BOTTLE is used so you can get past the door, you need the LEAF in order to get to the door behind the wall. HOVERING can't do it cause you'll die and get spawned back in front of the wall
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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2011, 12:28:43 AM »

The BOTTLE is used so you can get past the door, you need the LEAF in order to get to the door behind the wall. HOVERING can't do it cause you'll die and get spawned back in front of the wall
Forgot about that. Will correct the list so the skull hammer is skipped.
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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2011, 08:15:57 PM »

I think I mixed up doors (Trials skip and Light Arrow skip), but I believe the inability to zombie hover past them applies to both, since not only can you not even get to the warp (as far as I know), but both also take you back before the door you aim to get past if you die in the room after said door.
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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2012, 01:26:33 AM »

So I am new to actually registering on the site but I have been following things on here for about a year now. I could have sworn I saw a YouTube video of the low% ending someone did having less items than what's posted here but I could be trippin. Is this still up-to-date even with new tricks being found all the time??
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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2012, 04:55:39 AM »

Currently, this is the minimum as far as I know. In TAS, telescope can be skipped, but there isn't an ending of a TAS. There isn't a special low% ending. And I'm awfully sure there isn't a video with less items unless it uses cheats.
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