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Author Topic: OoT / MQ Trick Research & Discovery Thread  (Read 974278 times)
p4fn2w
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« Reply #960 on: March 14, 2015, 07:07:13 pm »

Aw, had my hopes up... thanks for quick reply though Smiley
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rubixmagic
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« Reply #961 on: April 04, 2015, 06:15:50 am »

So in ganondorf transforming into Gannon cutscene, when superaliding I found that it is possible to save a pause. Please look at the ending of my latest run. I am really not advertising myself I just really want to make some dedication to my fav game. So I held r during most of the cutscene, then I let go almost a sec after navi was done talking to me. 4 seconds is a lot.
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« Reply #962 on: April 04, 2015, 11:31:59 am »

I'm confused, how does this save a pause?
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« Reply #963 on: April 10, 2015, 03:36:17 am »

Some new and easy setups for existing tricks I've discovered:

- Different spot to cross the Haunted Wasteland quicksand using backwalks, as child or adult, without Hovers or Longshot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn_C8BoZi8c

- Crossing the Haunted Wasteland without Lens, while backwalking, without using the map or the color of the sand: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNlUGceMyHk

- Blowing up the bird statue at the end of the Shadow Temple with a chu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmNeXbINSWk
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rubixmagic
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« Reply #964 on: April 12, 2015, 04:40:59 am »

Doesn't it save the pause to have to re-equip the master sword. So this way it is already equiped. When I paused out of habit the pause screen was a bit weird though.
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mzxrules
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« Reply #965 on: May 29, 2015, 01:57:49 am »

Some notes on how zoning out works in Ocarina of Time

At 8011B934 (8011A5D0 + 0x1364) there is a signed 32bit variable that denotes the type of zone out that occurred. Here are a few values I've found so far:

-3Warp SongResets Temp Flags. Uses Respawn type 2's entrance index for loading the next entrance
-2?Preserves Temp Flags. Set when entering a loading zone in tower collapse/playing the sun's song/game over and continuing
-1?Preserves Temp Flags. Warps you back to your last entrance index
0Standard ExitResets Temp Flags
1Standard Out of BoundsReverts to last checkpoint. Preserves Temp Flags. This is the zoneout that occurs with tower collapse void warp
2Grotto ReturnTemp Flags reset
3Return to Farore's WindTemp Flags restored from Farore's Wind data

Values greater than 0 are interesting because they each have their own set of return coordinates when the game reloads.

I now have an educated on how void warp works in tower collapse as well. Void warp works by "touching" an exit on the same frame as you "void out" by falling 300 or 400 units (forget which). What i think happens next is that the game processes the routine for touching the exit first, which causes the next entrance index variable to be changed,  and zoneout type to be set to -2. Then, when the void out is processed, the zoneout type is changed to 1, overriding the normal coordinates for the entrance. One small gap in this theory is that I don't know why the entrance index doesn't change as well.

Edit: someone messed around with zone outs and it helped me re-discover a thing Acryte found. Basically, when you play a warp song, it overwrites zoneout 2's entrance index, rather than writing directly into the next entrance index variable. This means that if you were to play a warp song and wrong warp into a grotto, leaving it would put you somewhere in the scene you'd warp to. You would have to set things up first by entering a grotto though because by default Link's spawn parameter will be set to 0, causing him to be completely invisible and uncontrollable.
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« Reply #966 on: July 09, 2015, 04:10:46 am »

Finally figured out how the Chamber of Sages works:

You're simply sent to scene setup 0, where the 5 sages you rescue when completing a dungeon are loaded. Address 8011B9E5 (NTSC 1.0) is set beforehand to values 0-4, which determines the sage that appears. Wrong Warping doesn't occur because you're not going into a proper cutscene setup.

Values:

0 = Saria
1 = Darunia
2 = Ruto
3 = Nabooru
4 = Impa
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Quote from:  Leigh Rogers
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This is art because the music is classical music, and the graphics are done with a pen. The story is something about a woman. I could not understand much of this to be honest, which makes it even more likely to be an art.
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« Reply #967 on: August 03, 2015, 06:22:40 pm »

Found this today

https://youtu.be/mVMUYqu5gRM

I haven't seen this used in runs before? A tiny timesaver when transitioning between catching a GS and warping/sun song as Child. Haven't explored this too much beyond trying FW, which only queues the input so it would only save frames, but I don't see why not to go for it during a 100% run or something. If this has already been discovered is there a reason not to try go for it or w/e?


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« Reply #968 on: August 06, 2015, 11:08:44 pm »

People do that for skulltula duping with warp songs or suns song
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Amateseru
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« Reply #969 on: September 20, 2015, 11:57:31 am »

I got Fire arrows as child https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmNyuy4fGxM&feature=youtu.be&a

Also almost found a way to FW dive in GC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QswT6XThPQA&feature=youtu.be&a that could lead to all dungeon no door apparently
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SpookyScary
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« Reply #970 on: October 07, 2015, 02:24:59 am »

I just got into speed running (very minor glitches at the moment) and I am very interested in the glitch that Jodenstone showed off at SGDQ2015 with the deku nut.  I would like to know a lot more about how the glitch worked and if it can be applied somewhere else to potentially get a bottle with bugs (or fish) already in it instead of having to make a trip out of the tree to get a bug.
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« Reply #971 on: October 08, 2015, 01:35:36 pm »

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iC55h-oy3NAIW739yNQ8Cg9QNpDGTyVRys_NLHpnG_o/edit#gid=0 Here is the gdoc about GIM. The col "chest to hump" and "get item" are the most important and tell you what you can get depending on the chest you humped, for example if you want Ice Arrow you need to touch a chest with 20 bombchus inside (of course there is only one chest with 20 chus in the game and there is no water around so... heh)
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« Reply #972 on: October 24, 2015, 04:38:20 am »

Here is a new method for obtaining bottom of the well bombchus early using an ocarina dive out of a hover:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPZctq_hMEk
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SavageWizzrobe
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« Reply #973 on: October 24, 2015, 04:47:22 pm »

Hey guys. I may have found something when I was messing around one day that could be useful for max% child and probably works on OoT3D since it doesn't rely on ISG. I found a real-time setup for megaflipping over the rocks in front of the Fire Temple from the DMC Heart Piece as child. It may allow for new routing possibilities.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuSrYCt4JB4
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« Reply #974 on: November 27, 2015, 03:37:27 pm »

RTA setup for timerless deku to shadow void warp:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ3e2SjQV3s
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