OoT / MQ Trick Research & Discovery Thread

[qwerty1605]

r0bd0g do this in MST get mirror shield before this stuff. DC --> Deku boss room, Deku ---> Spirit Boss Room----> ??

[Jbop]

Random thing: It should be possible to timer WW from DC to the Deku Boss room, so you could FWWW using FW on C.

Would there by any chance be an easy way to FWWW to the credits from the Deku or Shadow boss rooms? (EDIT: woops, hehehe) And I guess you'd have to set FW in a dungeon.....

[qwerty1605]

well you can use the eyeball frog to warp to the credits from fire. This would be useful on 1.0/1.1 (n64 pls). Nobody has found a setup for it though and I'm pretty sure it would require the goron tunic.

[Jbop]

well you can use the eyeball frog to warp to the credits from fire. This would be useful on 1.0/1.1 (n64 pls). Nobody has found a setup for it though and I'm pretty sure it would require the goron tunic.

Yeah, I just wanted to see if there might be a way to FWWW to the credits with FW on C like r0bd0g described, but I don't believe it would work . Btw, there actually is a decent setup for the eyeball frog timer warp to credits. It's used in any% no doors .

[r0bd0g]

It should be possible to warp to the credits with FW on C. While doing Remote Control Epona, you can also use restricted items in the same way, so you can cast FW not only in dungeons but at most entrances to areas where you can use Epona. There are multiple ways to reach the credits like this. One of the more convenient ones that I see at first glace is Hyrule Field->Lake Hylia.

There's also some interesting stuff that you can warp to with FW on C like Saria's Song (Serenade->Lake Hylia) and Child Hyrule Castle (Thieves' Hideout Entrance 2->Gerudo Fortress). Possibly you could learn the Nocturne of Shadow (Street->Hyrule Field), if you can learn it from a Wrong Warp like they do on 3DS (I don't know if that's been tested on normal OoT b/c everybody always RBA's the song before WW testing).

[Jbop]

Great! I'm gonna try this just for the heck of it lol.

[r0bd0g]

Nobody's ever done the DC->Gohma warp. You'll have to make your own set-up. It's done by bottle-duping over your trade item and timer CS skipping DC. If it crashes, you will want to try different prior cutscenes. Could it be faster than BA Ganonless or Fire Temple Ganonless? IDK.

Somebody make Ganonless a legit category.

[Jbop]

Could it be faster than BA Ganonless or Fire Temple Ganonless? IDK.
Somebody make Ganonless a legit category.

This is exactly what I was thinking lol

[Kimimaru]

So how would you start the WW with FW on C? Would it go something like:

-WW to dungeon with FW on B
-WW to another place using that dungeon's blue warp?

[Jbop]

So how would you start the WW with FW on C? Would it go something like:

-WW to dungeon with FW on B
-WW to another place using that dungeon's blue warp?

You would most likely use a trade item timer WW from DC to warp you to the Deku boss room, where you would then be able to use FW on C to FWWW.

[Kimimaru]

Okay, cool. I can't see this having a use in any % though since it takes too long to set up and you can get the same result in less time. I only see it having a use in a niche category like Any % No Ganondoor or something.

[Jbop]

Well, I got the DC->Deku warp (http://youtu.be/AF4RqaT31lU). Now to try the FWWW to the credits

EDIT: It works! I got it a couple times: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wwiavf9Gisk)
I also think I found a pretty consistent setup for Adult Timer WW's/Cutscene skips, but I have to look into it a bit more.

[nathanisbored]

For "Ganonless", skipping getting the bottle wouldn't be any faster would it? You could use bomb OI instead of bottle OI if you are going to be getting a trade item anyway, right? I guess you wouldn't be able to dupe over the adult trade slot either...

[r0bd0g]

Can't use trade items in boss rooms. Maybe Ruto's letter could be used as adult, IDK.

[nathanisbored]

Can't use trade items in boss rooms. Maybe Ruto's letter could be used as adult, IDK.

I'd love to see a way to accomplish bottleless+ganonless for fun lol

Edit: Actually, you could use a spell like Din's Fire or Nayru's Love to accomplish this. Not much point, but it's silly to know that the bottle isn't even required for ganonless anymore, considering how big a role it played when ganonless was first found.