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[gabyelnuevo]

Alright, we're naming it Mask Jump. Someone put the video in the wrong section, so there's already confusion with the name. I'll remove the edits on the Jumpslash Cancel page and put in a new page for Mask Jump.

We were debating with the name of the glitch (some runners and me) and we didn't fully decided but we think that the best name could be JumpSlash Cancelling since, the name itself explains the trick, you cancel the jump slash animation and then Rename the previous jump slash cancel into something else since you really are not cancelling the jump slash, you're just canceling the endlag like you mentioned earlier ;P

[Weegeechan]

I found a really simple timesaver (?) that skips the tiny running cutscene when approaching the owl statue in clock town. All you do is wait to activate the statue instead of doing it in the 1st cycle. You can then just approach it like every other statue in the game.

[Powerstar9]

We were debating with the name of the glitch (some runners and me) and we didn't fully decided but we think that the best name could be JumpSlash Cancelling since, the name itself explains the trick, you cancel the jump slash animation and then Rename the previous jump slash cancel into something else since you really are not cancelling the jump slash, you're just canceling the endlag like you mentioned earlier ;P

Well... Crap. Screwed me over there.
Uhhhhh..... Doggone flabber biscuits, this is such a dilemma. Feel like throwing a Super Smash Bros term here. A-Cancel, J-Cancel..... ??
Welp.

[BigHairyFart]

I feel like Mask Jump suits the trick just fine. It accurately describes what is happening, you are using a mask to jump. It's also short, sweet, and to the point.

[BigHairyFart]

Okay, so I was in Stone Tower, and when I did the ledge clip to get to BK, I targeted a bubble, and it put me into the tunnel with the bubbles, rather than OoB just outside the door.

[gabyelnuevo]

I made this strawpoll, i guess share it with everyone and everyone who reads this, probaly we see who likes what more #OpieOP http://strawpoll.me/3907535

[BigHairyFart]

I really don't see why this is being debated so much. It's just a name.

[The Snarky Lesbian]

Hey there, completely new speedrunner here.

I have a question regarding the rupee farming for the 5000 rupee HP. In Benstephens1000's 100% rupees, it says killing eenos with light arrows. Which Eenos is that referring to? Also, is that really the fastest method?

In my first 100% file I used the Clock Town Shooting Gallery to farm the rupees. Every win after getting the Shooting Gallery HP and the Quiver awards Link with a a gold rupee (200 rupees). Doing that about 28-30 times awards about 5000 rupees. Now, the Shooting Gallery minigame takes about a minute to a minute and 20 seconds to complete. Depending on how well you do, every cycle with getting the rupees and running back to the bank takes about 4-5 minutes. Which is not all that bad.

But you guys are the pros, what do you think about that method?

[benstephens1000]

The eenos are the snowman enemies in North termina field at night. Every eeno that you kill with a light arrow gives you 50 rupees so 10 eenos fills your wallet, and it's fast to get there. Every trip for 500 rupees take about 1:30 which is pretty good honestly. The shooting gallery is definitely not a fast idea at all. It would take around 3 times longer to do it this way! Plus, the gallery isn't open at night which is the best time to do this, so you'd have to ledge clip in every time!

[The Snarky Lesbian]

Okay, that IS a pretty cool strat. A lot faster than my octorok genocide, and the risk of failure is nil.

Nice, thanks a lot!

[BigHairyFart]

Do bubbles still give 50R when killed via light arrow?

[PVZBronyGod]

If you read the post you quoted you'd have a basic understanding of it.

I don't have the savestates to analyse the glitch to confirm, but basically with MM things work like this:

You have 4 byte day counter. The intended day range is 0-4, where 0 is the day before you enter Termina, 1-3 are your main three days, and the 4th day is the Dawn of a New Day. Normally, even if you get into the 4th day, it's impossible to go farther than that since the 4th day rolls over back to the 4th. When you dupe over the Gibdo Mask and store Hot Water in that bottle, it speeds up time crazy fast for some reason, allowing you to shoot past the 4th day.

Now, to determine what day of the week it is, some things will take the current day variable, divide it by 5, then use the remainder to figure out what the current day is, while others use the day variable as is.

So the 5th day glitch is not necessarily glitching to the 5th day, but rather glitching beyond day 4 to where (day variable % 5) == 1, same thing as the New Day wrong warp.

K

[PVZBronyGod]

So i have some more questions...
Giant Link, should it be posted to the Remake Changes page?
How much damage does Giant Link's attacks do?

[Powerstar9]

Should I make a thread on adding/editing pages to the MM3D section on the ZSR website? I think it would be good to make one because there are pages that are lacking in content (mainly the dungeon and boss sections) and we can discuss edits that should be made.

[Pedalpowertoast]

Besides adding/editing, put general guidelines too. (game capitalization, OoT vs. OOT, official names for moves, Jump Attack vs. Jump Slash) the latter which I think should be discussed further.