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Author Topic: Majora's Mask 3D Any% Route?  (Read 20090 times)
Jeville
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« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2015, 12:18:44 AM »

Oh, so the significance of Bombchus is enough to dismiss the proposed 50r first cycle route from the other thread.

Deku Flower RI also requires nuts unlocked.

If you do Zora sword instead of Deku, you will not have to fix human Link's B. That doesn't make up for the inability to use nuts without switching? I'm assuming the inferior range isn't a problem.
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« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2015, 12:43:22 AM »

I thought you needed razor/gilded sword to get zora sword? I attempted to get a Zora sword without the razor/gilded sword and never got a sword.
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« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2015, 01:01:48 AM »

Yes, I goofed.

Edit: So how about this for the Powder Keg skip:

1. Save at feather statue in Snowhead Temple.
2. Reset and start a timer.
3. Beat Goht.
4. Soar to Mountain Village.
5. Gibdo mask to a bottle.
6. Catch HSW when timer is at 8:45 minutes.
7. Inverted, etc.
7. Beat Gyorg.
8. Soar to Clock Town and save.
9. Reset and start a timer again.
10. Roll your way to activate Milk Road owl.
11. Soar to Mountain Village.
12. Catch HSW when timer is at 1:25-1:35.
13. Inverted fast. Reset if purple banner shows.
14. Soar to Milk Road and should be no boulder.
15. Epona and so on.

Notes:
8:30-8:40 doesn't work.
Start from outside Snowhead owl if Goht can be beaten too soon from the feather one inside?
0th Day (from steps 12-13) must not be midnight before soaring out. Soaring out will wear off 0th Day but the scene will be of that day temporarily until you reload. If you do step 14 at midnight, you'll be sent to 5th Day (pseudo 1st Day).
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« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2015, 09:44:19 PM »

Just an idea (might be totally stupid):

-normal route until bow
-exit and get gibdo's mask
-get fire arrows
-finish woodfall (maybe start the intern clock here ?)
-wrong warp to goht
-kill goht
-wrong warp to gyorg (powder keg quest)
-kill gyorg
-and then the new route with epona and ww stt

I'm sure it's possible somehow to add the ww to goht to be faster
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« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2015, 10:41:21 PM »

Just an idea (might be totally stupid):

-normal route until bow
-exit and get gibdo's mask
-get fire arrows
-finish woodfall (maybe start the intern clock here ?)
-wrong warp to goht
-kill goht
-wrong warp to gyorg (powder keg quest)
-kill gyorg
-and then the new route with epona and ww stt

I'm sure it's possible somehow to add the ww to goht to be faster

The time you waste to get fire arrows... makes it not worth it. Might as well go up and do the BKS while you,re at it.

The only way IMO Goht WW would be usefull is if we find a BA that allows us to melt Goht with HSW. (More testing needs to be done with the effects of HSW BA...).
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« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2015, 10:52:50 PM »

Yes, I goofed.

Edit: So how about this for the Powder Keg skip:

1. Save at feather statue in Snowhead Temple.
2. Reset and start a timer.
3. Beat Goht.
4. Soar to Mountain Village.
5. Gibdo mask to a bottle.
6. Catch HSW when timer is at 8:45 minutes.
7. Inverted, etc.
7. Beat Gyorg.
8. Soar to Clock Town and save.
9. Reset and start a timer again.
10. Roll your way to activate Milk Road owl.
11. Soar to Mountain Village.
12. Catch HSW when timer is at 1:25-1:35.
13. Inverted fast. Reset if purple banner shows.
14. Soar to Milk Road and should be no boulder.
15. Epona and so on.

Notes:
8:30-8:40 doesn't work.
Start from outside Snowhead owl if Goht can be beaten too soon from the feather one inside?
0th Day (from steps 12-13) must not be midnight before soaring out. Soaring out will wear off 0th Day but the scene will be of that day temporarily until you reload. If you do step 14 at midnight, you'll be sent to 5th Day (pseudo 1st Day).

this is genius. i wrote this route up in a pastebin and took out the savewarp before snowhead to use the savewarp in ikana. idk what HSW time ranges work yet but I am testing them as i type this. http://pastebin.com/dGaFbzwf
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« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2015, 11:13:17 PM »

Yes, I goofed.

Edit: So how about this for the Powder Keg skip:

1. Save at feather statue in Snowhead Temple.
2. Reset and start a timer.
3. Beat Goht.
4. Soar to Mountain Village.
5. Gibdo mask to a bottle.
6. Catch HSW when timer is at 8:45 minutes.
7. Inverted, etc.
7. Beat Gyorg.
8. Soar to Clock Town and save.
9. Reset and start a timer again.
10. Roll your way to activate Milk Road owl.
11. Soar to Mountain Village.
12. Catch HSW when timer is at 1:25-1:35.
13. Inverted fast. Reset if purple banner shows.
14. Soar to Milk Road and should be no boulder.
15. Epona and so on.

Notes:
8:30-8:40 doesn't work.
Start from outside Snowhead owl if Goht can be beaten too soon from the feather one inside?
0th Day (from steps 12-13) must not be midnight before soaring out. Soaring out will wear off 0th Day but the scene will be of that day temporarily until you reload. If you do step 14 at midnight, you'll be sent to 5th Day (pseudo 1st Day).

Not sure if steps 14 and 15 would work... the 0day glitch.... to my knowledge, Epona needs to be done first day.
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« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2015, 12:26:48 AM »

this is genius. i wrote this route up in a pastebin and took out the savewarp before snowhead to use the savewarp in ikana. idk what HSW time ranges work yet but I am testing them as i type this. http://pastebin.com/dGaFbzwf
Awesome. Good luck with finding a time range for it and I'll try to find different times that work as well.

Not sure if steps 14 and 15 would work... the 0day glitch.... to my knowledge, Epona needs to be done first day.
After leaving the grotto, you're not on 0th Day anymore. You'll be on 1st Day with 0th Day's scene.

The sad thing is that I already mentioned the lack of need for the keg on the first page of the research thread, although it was before Epona became relevant. I didn't bring it up sooner after she's needed as I thought I read there's already a way to bypass the boulder with mentions of Down A that I didn't bother to look up. I'm sorry it's finally came up with this late lol. :\
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« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2015, 09:47:11 PM »

Awesome. Good luck with finding a time range for it and I'll try to find different times that work as well.
After leaving the grotto, you're not on 0th Day anymore. You'll be on 1st Day with 0th Day's scene.

The sad thing is that I already mentioned the lack of need for the keg on the first page of the research thread, although it was before Epona became relevant. I didn't bring it up sooner after she's needed as I thought I read there's already a way to bypass the boulder with mentions of Down A that I didn't bother to look up. I'm sorry it's finally came up with this late lol. :\

Wow man... nice find, then everyone who was getting the power key looks dumb now. Tongue HSW is getting ridiculous. Thanks Grezzo. x)

So I guess Gamestabled route is the OP version now? (aka basic sva route + powerkey skip)

Now that well use Action swap to melt Goht and use Goht WW... can someone make the new route?
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« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2015, 08:31:46 PM »

New route with fire arrow skip:

http://pastebin.com/x0JLQSau
Proof read please. Thanks.
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« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2015, 08:40:49 PM »

http://pastebin.com/Wjzc6v9C this one by SVA is a lot better. theres no reason to get lullaby anymore so Im not really sure why you left that in the route.
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« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2015, 08:44:14 PM »

http://pastebin.com/Wjzc6v9C this one by SVA is a lot better. theres no reason to get lullaby anymore so Im not really sure why you left that in the route.

Cause I didnt read it over mistake.
it was basically sva's old one but since he made a new one... perfect.  Smiley
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« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2015, 07:12:10 AM »

I don't know if it'd save much or any time, but if you don't dupe stick, you can use it to light the torch in woodfall with Tatl swap, if you stand on the deku flower nearby it's at the right height.
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