What counts as a Wrong Warp?

[Zargaroc]

Is the Trials skip is a type of Wrong warp

[quo]

No you're hitting a loading zone, sorta like deku tree as adult

[Jbop]

I've never liked the "load more than one thing at a time" explanation. There isn't much difference between EPG and Void warp if you backtracked into the "wrong room" and went back to your return point.

Just because they can have similar effects doesn't mean they can't be classified as different glitches based on how they are performed. The "two load zones at once" explanation explains both wrong warp and void warp perfectly, including the odd effects they can have.

[TheWayfaringFox]

0 is correct though, the next cutscene number variable is set the same if you were to travel to the Chamber of Sages as if you weren't. This is actually a different value than what could be interpreted as being null (the value defaults to FFEF on every scene change).

I want to point out that at this time I still don't understand how Chamber of Sages cutscenes are triggered.

I think that 0 was made to maybe distinguish the dungeon clear flag from entering the blue warp another time? If you lock FFEF when the game is loading the blue warp the game does not send you to the cutscenes for the dungeons that I messed with.

[mzxrules]

Just because they can have similar effects doesn't mean they can't be classified as different glitches based on how they are performed. The "two load zones at once" explanation explains both wrong warp and void warp perfectly, including the odd effects they can have.

My point is that we're trying to classify two distinctly different tricks as being the same on the basis that nobody wants to do void warp in runs.

The "two load zones at once" is not a core part of what makes wrong warping work, and thus isn't useful for explaining what we want banned from the no wrong warp category. For example, if you could manipulate the next cutscene value in an RBA way, you would bypass the need to trigger this "two loading zones at once".

[nathanisbored]

Is "overwriting the next_entrance value before it gets pushed to last_entrance" a good enough definition? Or does that still not cover void warp?

What's the simplest definition that covers:
-Blue Warp CS skips
-Cutscene Wrong Warps
-Void Warp
but doesn't count EPG? It needs to be a definition that doesn't use terms like "at the same time" or "at once" or "wrong place" etc, unless you define exactly what those terms mean. This way we don't have to worry about glitches in the future that could corrupt our current definitions (like a way to overwrite the next entrance value with RBA, for example). Apparently I don't understand the logic of scene transitions in this game well enough come up with a definition myself, so I was wondering if someone more knowledgeable could.