MST Route Discussion

[benstephens1000]

Well if that shortcut that I linked works then water temple will only take 3 keys without hover boots or iron boots. I think that would save a ton of time if masteredIt certainly would have helped me a lot last night.

Is there a way to get from the part of the water temple where you come in (3rd floor South area) to the central area of the top floor without megaflipping? I'm sure there is and it's completely obvious, but I always megaflip because I can't find any other way to get there. Jumping just doesn't work and there aren't any hookshot points that will keep you on the 3rd floor.

Does anyone know what happens if you say no to Saria during the 2 wrong warp cutscenes? I'm guessing not much, but I was going to try it out in my run just to check, and I seem to have forgotten to.

I have an idea regarding wrong warps. I haven't tested it yet, but it probably won't work. If it does work... well let's just say it could be quite spectacular. More info to come later today once I've done some testing.

[Pedalpowertoast]

Ben, ill try it out unless you already did.

[benstephens1000]

I'm going to try it out later today, so you don't have to although you may if you like. If it works it could change the whole route. I already have some pretty nifty ideas...

[Pedalpowertoast]

Yea im gonna try it out. Could you tell me some of those nifty ideas?

[benstephens1000]

I will share my ideas if the WW works.

[Pedalpowertoast]

Ben, what was that warp again? I did saria->kokiri. Not sure if too early or late...it crashed *sigh* we need to test another one

[benstephens1000]

Well that's unfortunate. Deep in my mind I was expecting a crash... I just feel that watching the Saria cut scene three times wastes time. I just wish there was something more productive we could do. I'm gonna give it a test just to be sure, but in the meantime I'll keep looking for alternatives. Sigh...

[TaylorTotFTW]

It may not feel like it's faster, but the creation cutscene, on console, is 4:50, and Saria's song twice is 3:40 on console.

What warp are you tlaking about pedalpower? saria-->kokiri? what does that even mean? The warps are links treehouse-->kokiri for deku and kokiri-->lost woods for DC.

Always look at the route for up to date strats, Ben. Hope you can get a good run in today.

[Pedalpowertoast]

Ben had an idea of using saria->kokiri to get to nocturne cutscene early in one of his posts, but he edited it out for some reason (probably to get credit to himself) I saw it and tried it out. Im pretty sure I got it right but it crashed Then again some of the warps are changed...does r0bd0g or something like that have an alternative and how does he know what happens with the warp or is it just luck?

[TaylorTotFTW]

That is puzzling... I'll ask r0bd0g about it, but for now try out the kakiriko-->hyrule field warp which supposedly warps to nocturne as well.

[Pedalpowertoast]

Ok, thanks. In DC or Deku?

[TaylorTotFTW]

They both work.

[Pedalpowertoast]

Ill try deku first then DC. Just got bracelet.

[benstephens1000]

I was also going to try the kakiriko -> field warp... If none of the Nocturne warps work,  I've thought of some alternate warps. Still need to fine tune those ideas and test them as well before I say anything for sure.

[gamestabled]

Also does anyone think this could work? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AytrjxrYIec

Pretty sure I mentioned this way back when we first talked about the water temple, if I didnt I knew about it at least

Also warping to the nocturne cutscene is pointless, you dont get the song. Dont even bother trying.
Wrong warping to cutscenes where you get an item never gives you the item, with two exceptions. One being Sarias song (useless), the other I cant remember but it was also useless iirc. WHEEEEEW NOCTURNE EARLY!!!!

Im confident that watching sarias an extra two times is faster than emerald once, taylortot's timings line up with that.