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Zmaster91
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« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2013, 08:24:07 pm »

Found a nice time saver in 2-3 that lets us skip the moon orb.  Not the kind of skip we wanted but at least it's something haha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwcaIePoepQ

Come to think of it, you could get the moon orb and use it later when your getting the lamp, might save a few more seconds getting that moon orb.  If that makes any sense...
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Geno
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« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2013, 02:51:53 am »

Wow, that's such a clever skip. I wonder if we could utilize invulnerabilty anywhere else.

I'll try out the jump slash method to skip that one part of 1-1. I think I tried that, but I must not have timed it correctly. 1-1 being so hard would nice in single segments, just so you can get the tough stuff out of the way and reset early Smiley.

Hmm, that does seem like that co-op method would work. If getting both players over is slow, we could always just do it with one person since it's not like you end both players at the other end. Some later level with that skip might require having all 4 links there though. I dunno, it's hard enough to route 1 player ILs, co-op is gonna be a beast to optimize. The ZSR marathon co-op run is gonna be hilariously unoptimal.

Anyway, here are some potential names for our cute little trick:

chasm hover
gap hover
hole hover
chasm skip
gap skip
hole skip

I'm partial to chasm hover. You basically hover your links over a chasm. Pretty simple! gap/hole aren't to my liking since as sergi showed, this trick is possible in the cloud levels, and the sky isn't really a hole or gap imo >_>.

When I first did it in 1-1 I called it wall fucking since the links kind of shiver against the wall. Use your imagination. Obviously there are scenarios where you don't need a wall to do this trick (going right with c right) so that's not the most apt name.

Maybe formation hover? shiver hover? Suggest more if you want!
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Zmaster91
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« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2013, 06:45:04 pm »

I kind of like Formation Hover.  But in that case we might have to label the ones using the wall by saying Wall Formation Hover or something.
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Zmaster91
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« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2013, 06:58:12 pm »

This allows link to walk on air pretty much.  Unfortunately this trick hasn't been useful yet (I've tried so hard, lol).  Maybe someone will find a use for this someday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8jpgQh9IsY&feature=youtu.be

This isn't new, but I just wanted to make it well-known to potential people looking at this game.  Although, I did find a more accessible way of doing the same thing with bombs, so it's not all old news. 

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Geno
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« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2013, 08:00:20 pm »

That's pretty cool, I'll try messing around with it later. By the way, how did you find out about this? Is there some hidden four swords internet resource I don't know about?
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Zmaster91
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« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2013, 08:12:35 pm »

When I first started, I just googled for glitches and found it.  This has the most I know so far (3 lol). 

http://www.jaytheham.com/zcw/Four_Swords_Adventures
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Zmaster91
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« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2013, 02:06:27 am »

I found an actor type glitch in 4-3 yesterday.  Pressing pause between the transition of the scenes causes it I think.  I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF7SGajZ694
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Geno
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« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2013, 02:58:32 am »

Woah what? So the softlock restored your health too? This is so weird. I don't even.

This game didn't seem that broken as of a few months ago. It's weird how many glitches are just popping up in normal gameplay.
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Zmaster91
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« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2013, 03:09:43 am »

I think that is just a heart that dropped from the pot when I broke it, you can see it because the game doesn't load any actors I guess.  At least it gives pausing some potential to break the game.
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Zmaster91
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« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2013, 10:40:39 pm »

Found a use for the formation hover in lost woods.  It skips pretty much everything in the level, but leaves you with very little force gems.  After some routing, I would say this is 30-45 seconds faster optimally. (I've gotten a bad run that was 5:05 compared to the 5:27 on SDA which was pretty well executed.) The skips are really hard to do on the first try consistently.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMXln6fAJDs&feature=youtu.be
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Zmaster91
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« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2013, 05:12:37 am »

Found a nice little time saver in 6-1.  Also, this gives another way to do the floating link glitch and actually makes it useful!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCu1FefI4Gg

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« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2013, 01:48:15 am »

Hey! So my notes will be done very soon! I will work on revising them for the next month and then post shorter, more useful notes with reminders for runners that know that route well. I guess backup strats would be nice to include too, especially for races. I am unsure if the co-op route should be its own route. Anyways, here is the link to my notes: http://pastebin.com/ccaRyYKL
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Geno
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« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2013, 06:08:07 am »

Cool shit. Co-op having its own route makes sense just cause it'd be annoying to read notes for both in the same doc I guess.

By the way, if anyone new wants to discuss some hot four swords action with us, you can pop into the speedrunslive irc at #fsa.
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Zmaster91
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« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2013, 03:10:03 am »

So I found a nice and easy skip for the Pegasus boots in 8-1. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTbkMBM3_Jw

Officially the easiest trick in the game, lol.

Also, I think I found another big skip (~1.5 minutes) in the same level, but I'll have to test it more tomorrow.
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Zmaster91
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« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2013, 05:30:39 pm »

So I have a skip for the end of 8-1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ5oKgKS1kY&feature=youtu.be

Unfortunately I don't know how to really do it.  I've done it once yesterday but I can't replicate it.

Help?  Undecided
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