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=> Majora's Mask => Topic started by: Jeville on September 16, 2011, 04:52:43 AM



Title: 2nd Hero max%
Post by: Jeville on September 16, 2011, 04:52:43 AM
It does require game modification, which rules it out automatically. But that is only to begin the game and not during gameplay. It is not used beneficially and is only to access the mode. Can a separated category be made for this? If a formal run of this bizarre mode isn't allowed, it might as well be for fun. It does require us to have the physical game and console, which not all of us have anymore (myself included /sadface). It might be even impossible to set up with an old cartridge (or console?) that's more sensitive to the touch causing a freeze. The 48 Ocarinas is more feasible to do, but we get less from that and is less interesting to watch or do a run of.


Title: Re: 2nd Hero max%
Post by: Enterim on September 16, 2011, 04:43:01 PM
Could you explain this category? I'm not familiar with it.


Title: Re: 2nd Hero max%
Post by: Jeville on September 16, 2011, 05:46:53 PM
Instructions & results (http://www.jaytheham.com/zcw/Majora%27s_Mask_Crooked_Cartridge_-_2nd_Hero).

45-minute video of it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhEU7xjjPJY).

The objective can be to get as many items as you can under the effect.


Title: Re: 2nd Hero max%
Post by: Kaztalek on September 16, 2011, 07:27:41 PM
until theres a way to do this without crooked cartridge its not getting any recognition


Title: Re: 2nd Hero max%
Post by: Jeville on September 16, 2011, 07:36:03 PM
Right. Okay. Forget it then.


Title: Re: 2nd Hero max%
Post by: Kaztalek on September 17, 2011, 03:21:05 AM
its still very interesting and i would be amazed if there were a way to do it legitimately

however considering the "half-write" theory thats probably a no go


Title: Re: 2nd Hero max%
Post by: mzxrules on September 17, 2011, 04:19:42 AM
Isn't there a way to grab a dump of the N64's ram from a console, considering that the ram unit can be swapped out on the console?


Title: Re: 2nd Hero max%
Post by: Jeville on October 17, 2011, 04:39:40 AM
Bump.  :'(

Isn't there a way to grab a dump of the N64's ram from a console, considering that the ram unit can be swapped out on the console?
I'm curious too. Why is this not answered yet?!  :(

In the 2nd Hero video, it shows that the player did not succeed in acquiring the Ocarina (it shows Majora's Mask holding it when he went up as human). This was before it's discovered how you can enter on top the Clock Tower as a Deku Scrub without the flower. So what I want to know is, would the file be saved if the Song of Time is played? I doubt it, because according to Zelda Chaos, saving at the owl statue doesn't save it.

If it does save it, then grabbing the dump of the N64's ram won't be needed. And if it doesn't, it at least allows you to play the rest of the game at ease. Kind of disappointing if Goron and Zora masks aren't obtainable, especially Zora mask unless the entrance to Great Bay Temple is already available.


Title: Re: 2nd Hero max%
Post by: mzxrules on October 17, 2011, 05:30:56 AM
The real reason I want a ram dump is to analyse the data itself, and possibly create a sram file of it.


Title: Re: 2nd Hero max%
Post by: Jeville on October 21, 2011, 06:52:16 AM
Apparently, there was a rom containing a savestate of the 48 Ocarinas glitch here (http://www.zophar.net/savestates/n64/zelda-majoras-mask.html), but the download button takes us to the home page... But if there was a savestate made for that glitch, that should tell us it is possible to create one for 2nd Hero too. Unless how it works is a bit more complicated.


Title: Re: 2nd Hero max%
Post by: darkeye14 on October 21, 2011, 09:46:39 PM
You can create a 48 Ocarina save easily on PJ64. Start up the MM ROM, and then go to "Settings" --> "ROM Settings". For the field "Default Save Type", select "32kbytes SRAM". Now, restart the emulator and make a new file, and you'll be playing a 48 Ocarina file.


Title: Re: 2nd Hero max%
Post by: Jeville on October 22, 2011, 01:42:45 AM
Thanks. I suppose a challenge can be made for that instead of 2nd Hero.