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The route for my LP (Zaccio) Route :D

Segment 1: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mBxu_cqr801:)
Rupee Route
Sword and Shield
Escape Forest
WESS to kakariko
Dive to Bottom of the Well
Go get Chu's(10C)

Segment 2
Let it becouse nighttime
Get Skulltulas (5Skulltulas) (9C)
Get to Gerudo valley useing a Superslide and then ESS (8C)
Cucco Jump
GateSkip
Cross haunted wasteland
Get to spirit temple

Segment 3
Beat child section of Spirit temple and get silver guantlets (14C)

Segment 4
Get to castle before nighttime useing a Superslide (13C)
Get Skulltula from rupee Room (6GS)
Damage from Skulltula and then kill it (7GS)
Damage boost (12C)
Get ZL (11C)
Go do DoT Skip

Segment 5
Go get hookshot
Play Requiem of Spirit
Adult section of Spirit temple (9C)
Get 1 skulltula in process (8GS)

Segment 6
Go to Ganons Caslte get GS (9GS)
Go to Kakariko get GS (10GS)
go and get Adults Wallet
Go get secret grotto Rupees (8C) (200R)
Hover To Shadow Temple (5C)
Go get Hover Boots

Segment 7
Beat rest of Shadow Temple (4C)

Segment 8
LA Cutscene
Go and get 20Chu's from Spirit trail (24C)
Go to Water Temple

Segment 9
MegaHover Across Gap (23C)
BombChu Staircase BK skip (18C)

Segment 10
Go to kokiri Forest
Get damage from Giga Deku Baba
Narrow through Lost woods
Do maze normally
Do minuet CS skip (17C)
Go to Goron City (16C)
Get biggoron Sword
Go up DM (15C)
Get Magic (14C)
Use megaflip to skip Bolero of fire (13C)

Segment 11
Beat Fire Temple (7C)
Play Minuet
Enter Forest Temple

Segment 12
Get key from Stalfoes room
Do acute angle JS
leave Re-enter
MegaJump To Catwalk (6C)
Get Bow
Go do BK skip and then watch CS

Segment 13
Do adult DoT Skip
Prelude CS
Child
Reverse DoT Skip
Get to ZR
Blow up rocks (5C)
Pick up Cucco and do ZL skip
Magesidehop Past King Zora (4C)
Enter JJB

Segment 14
Beat JJB (2C)

Segment 15
Get to DC
blow up rock
Beat DC (0C)

Segment 16
Beat Deku tree
Go adult
go to Ganons Castle

Segment 17
Skip Trails
Beat rest of Ganons Castle


 

The last time this was raced, it was generally agreed upon that Shadow should come before Spirit.

How different would it be if Spirit was first?

I like the sound of it. It would be nice if it was all beaten backwards as an adult since that is now possible. So something like escaping the forest, bottle, well chus, and then DoT skip.

Only because the race was specifically to obtain the stones and medallions in the reverse order that they appear on the file screen. The Light Medallion appears last, then the Shadow Medallion second last, etc.

Also, we hadn't banned entering dungeons out of the reverse order, mostly because some entrants were bad and wouldn't be able to do tricks with bombchu.

Allright.

Tbh i have allways seen Spirit the last temple Even though i know that the shadow medallion matches in the order
I were thinking about that you wouldn't be allowed to go child after pulling the master sword, but then you will have to BA over the Light Arrows CS, which appears after you have beated Spirit and Shadow temple.

But the JJB as adult seems kinda overkill. (but would be cool to find a place to use this trick :D)
and since i wouldn't allow BA (by BA it's both BA and RBA since you would have to get bottle on B which includes you RBA'ing once) So tecnicly if BA were allowed you could just RBA bombs and then all the temple's would be easy as fuck :(

So i would l prefer "No BA"

also if we're takeing which route would be coolest. Shadow vs Spirit first.
Shadow would allow us to have hoverboots first which would well do nothing in spirit other than if you got the hoverboots as child you could go and plant a bean and the bean trick to get mirror shield and which could allow us to skip the silver Guantlets but we need them in forest temple so nothing is skipped.

the other way around you can get to spirit temple as child and get spirit Chu's and silver guantlets (we will get the well chu's before entering spirit temple since about 35 chu's is needed to complete all the temples in reverse order + this way we could skip hylian shiled and play it cool with mirror shield :D

Anyone else have some idea's why we should do shadow or spirit first? ;P

I always did Spirit first.  It makes the route a bit tougher anyway.  With Shadow first you'll have hovers for silver block.  Spirit first means that you need to get silver gaunts (or do some dumb impossible trick).  To get silver gaunts without sling, you'll either have to do Lizalfos hover or just get 10 GS and carpet chus (or BotW, but I always "ban" it and Ice Cavern).

hm, how do you kill barinade as adult?

You don't.  No rule against going back in time.

I think shadow should be first because that's how it appears on the file select screen.

Heh, this run is SO 2009

Unfortunatly this was abit way to easy.
I just finished it up yesterday. And the only difficult thing about this run was if you skipped BOTW chu's and went to spirit temple
(needing to Dino hover)

so if you should make this difficult for yourself then the least thing you can do is maybe to RTA
or maybe if you were going to JJB as adult. but no current known way to enter JJB with chu's only ( not that i know of i havn't really messed with the trick to enter though + you would have to move King Zora as a child )

It's possible to do this difficult and it's possible do this easy if segmented then it should be insanly easy (Execpt the Boss key skip in Water temple which i succeded doing with 5chu's

But the good thing about this run is that both good, bad and new players you can make it as challangeing as you like yourself :D

I'm really in the mood to play through OoT's dungeons again so I think I'm going to do this as a Let's Play. No-Glitch speedrun is just to hard to define, at least 1 person won't be happy with the way it goes :/.

I'll do a practice playthrough and kinda figure out a route for myself.

uh... wrong topic maybe? ?_?

this is the topic for a reverse dungeon playthrough...

haha, you completly stole my idea! haha :D

Oh sorry for the misunderstanding, I WAS actually referring to this reverse temple route though.

I've already started routing/playing through it, I'll let's play it when I get done.

Here's my route for Reverse Dungeon Order. I routed it while playing through it. This seems to be the best way to do RDO with the least amount of backtracking while using segmenting for easy retries.

RDO route (No BA/RBA, No sub-dungeons)

*spaces represent a save+reset

Sword & Shield
Pokey Escape
Ocarina
To Market, rupees from chains (40r)
GS from pot room (1GS)
GS from tree near Malon (2GS)
ZL

Lake Hylia
Gold Scale (20r)
Ruto Bottle
ZD
Get stick & nuts from pots
Show bottle to KZ
Use main exit to ZR
1 GS from ladder below waterfall (3GS)
Go down river
Buy 1 bean (10r)
1 GS from tree near owl (4GS)
To Kakariko
5 GS’s from town (9GS)
Scoop bugs from graveyard rock
1 GS from graveyard dirt patch (10GS)
Plant bean in dirt patch
Get Adult Wallet
Get maximum rupees from Market chains (200r)

Cucco Jump
Skip Gate
Into wasteland
Carpet Chus (10chus)
Enter Spirit Temple
Talk to Nabooru

Megaflip across gap where Stalfos is (9chus)
Get key
Let Wallmaster take Link back
Up to chu room
Use chu to hit switch (8chus)
Use chu to reveal light (7chus)
Open chu chest (17chus)
Kill beamos in silver rupee room (16chus)
Get Silver Gaunts
Jump down, enter Spirit, exit Spirit
Learn Requiem

DoT Skip
To Kakariko for Hylian Shield & Hookshot
Play Requiem
Enter Spirit Temple

Normal adult Spirit Temple route
Use chu on beamos in anubis room (15chus)
Use chu on rotating-mirror tunnel wall (14chus)
Beat Spirit Temple

Damage boost to graveyard seam (13chus)
Get ISG via Navi
Enter Shadow Temple

Hoverboots
Key from scythe room
JS clip through bars
Use chu to blow up statue’s base (12chus)
Get boss key using redead glitch
Beat Shadow Temple

Get Light Arrows

To Lake Hylia, get fish from hole on the way
JS into Lakeside Laboratory
Enter Water Temple

Bottle dive to Ruto
Lower water
Sidehop to 2nd floor
Blow up wall and get key (11chus)
Clip OOB using torch in main room
To dragon head room
Hit dragon switch (10chus)
To next room, get key

Enter room near spike enemies on bottom floor
Use hoverboots to get past spikes
In boulder room, hover-roll to hallway on left
Jump from side hall into deep water
Get BK

Contortion hover to boss room (6chus)
Beat Water Temple

To Goron City
Get Goron Tunic from “Link” the Goron
Buy Giant’s Knife
Skip Bolero of Fire with hover boots
Enter Fire Temple

Normal route Fire Temple
Blow up wall for key (5chus)
Blow up floor (4chus)
Blow up fake door (3chus)
Beat Fire Temple

To Lost Woods
Enter Forest

Get 3 keys
Get bow
BK Skip
Beat Forest Temple

DoT Skip with GK & hoverboots

LW warp to ZR
Enter ZD
Enter JJB

Hit first switch (2chus)
Get boomerang
Megaflip to boss room (1chu)
Beat JJB

To DoT
DoT Skip
To LW
Enter GC via warp (0chus) *Skips Kakariko cutscene
Enter DC

Get bombs
Beat DC
Up to great fairy
Get magic

Play Minuet of Forest
Enter Deku Tree as adult

Use arrow and torch to burn second web
Beat Deku Tree

To Ganon’s Gastle
Trial skip
Win

You enter Spirit Temple as a child but you don't beat it and I thought you said once you enter it you must beat it.

No I said I can't enter any of the dungeons out of reverse order. I go to the Spirit Temple as a kid and beat the child section, then I re-enter it as adult after doing through the Door of Time. I don't enter any other dungeons until after Spirit is beaten.

wow, this takes me back. When I first came to SDA, I got interested in testing ideas for OoT because I wanted to beat the game in reverse order and awaken all the sages backwards and then dispel the barriers backwards to see if I could get the triforce (LOOOOOL). Eventually we found enough tricks to do it, that's the awesome part. So yea, this was what I was most interested in doing when I first came to SDA, and pretty much got me into glitching the game. That and fierce started finding tricks so I was like, "I'm gonna find some too". But yea, this was my idea back in the day. Kinda like when I got all 150 pokemon in my red version into the hall of fame to MAKE SURE that you couldn't get mew from that one dude in celadon or wherever it was.

Good idea, LinuzDk. And I'll be sure to follow your playthrough, aleckermit!

Haha sounds really good. I'm pretty sure it's been possible ever since we discovered DoT skip :)
And yeah i remember getting all the pokemons in Blue :D (No mew though)
Seems like you have some pretty wierd theories haha


actually the reason why i did this was becouse i wanted to do a playthough of it. and as it seems now it's going to be a LP aswell.
actually Aleckermit i have no idea what so ever why you didn't allow Sub dungeons.
I've allready done some segments and i got BOTW chu's in first segment and i will make the run more for showing of how muchs actually possible in Ocarina of time these days. it's also possible to do Water temple boss key skip with 5 chu's (just did it today :D)

I will start my LP on my channel "Zaccio"

To me, sub dungeons break the reverse order rule since they have their own intended order as well.

Also, the way I'm beating Water Temple should be more entertaining than the BK Skip way (I'll be bottle diving, getting a key early, OOB clipping to the boss key, and contortion hovering).

Instead of contortion Hovering just use http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7Xp3Ub-Fhc
I dunno if that way to get across gaps are new but certently much easier that original chu mega hover method.

I just started now and im doing live commentary and the run in segments so i can't edit or anything. It might get annoying to do live commentary at some point if i keep failing the segments but atleast the run is not that difficult :D

I'm glad that our runs are not going to be exactly the same :D

Love it so far, and you're a good commentator. Can't wait until the next part.