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Title: CloudMax's NewGame+ [Bugs] Any% RTA Route Post by: CloudMax on July 18, 2011, 07:13:51 PM NewGame+ is a new category based around a glitch which allows you to start with all items that you can get through BA by creating a new file.
This is because when you either mount onto a horse, or have fishing rod on B (inside the pond), the game stores what item you had on B before doing either of those things, so when you exit the game and create a new savefile it will return that item to the B button of the new file. http://zeldaspeedruns.com/oot3d/ng+/creating-a-ng-file As you can see I have a bracket which says bugs in the route title, that means that I will start my new file with Bugs on B. This will only work if Single Cycle Dorf is possible with MS. Read below the route for more info. Updated July 19, 2011, 12:38:19 AM forum time. •Deku Nuts •Kokiri Sword (Do not equip) •WWT Forest Escape •Ocarina •Bottle Dupe over Deku Nuts •RBA Empty Bottle •40r from chains •Green Potion •Zelda's Lullaby •40r from chains •Goron City •Deku Stick from Jar in Darunias room •Blow up LW rocks with burning Deku Sticks •LW •Saria's Song •Deku Shield •Deku Tree •LW to Goron City •Bracelet •DC •Magic •Owl •Beans •RBA Beans •RBA Bugs •ZD •Fish •Megaflip Clip ZD > LH Warp •Gerudo's Fortress •RBA Green Potion •Put bottle created from last step on II •Odd Mushroom •RBA Odd Mushroom (Keep atleast one bug) •Savewarp •Equip Sword •Navi Dive to Zora's River •KZ Skip •Jabu •Savewarp •OoT •Chain Rupees •Hylian Shield •Din's Fire •DoT •Adult Link •Ganon's Castle •Skip Trials (Megaflip Damage Boost method) •kill dorf single cycle •Din's Fire to keep Master Sword •Kill ganon If you have any questions, just ask. If it isn't possible to single cycle dorf with Master Sword we could always get giant's knife (assuming you can single cycle dorf with it) by taking these skulltulas throughout the route: deku tree vine deku tree wall Dodongo web Crater box Kakariko tree kakariko skulltula house wall kakariko construction bricks kakariko shop house wall Zora's River Tree Jabu web (before boss room) And as adult you go to kakariko and get adults wallet, blow up the secret grotto, kill the 2 redeads and then grab the 200 rupee chest. After that just run to goron city and buy giant's knife, then savewarp. Title: Re: CloudMax's NewGame+ [Bugs] Any% RTA Route Post by: qwerty1605 on July 18, 2011, 07:29:57 PM •Deku Nuts How do you bottle dupe without a bottle?•Kokiri Sword (Do not equip) •WWT Forest Escape •Ocarina •Bottle Dupe over Deku Nuts Title: Re: CloudMax's NewGame+ [Bugs] Any% RTA Route Post by: CloudMax on July 18, 2011, 07:44:17 PM How do you bottle dupe without a bottle? A good question. Until you notice that you start with bottled bugs on B. It took me a while to think of that aswell. Title: Re: CloudMax's NewGame+ [Bugs] Any% RTA Route Post by: mzxrules on July 18, 2011, 08:05:56 PM Bottle Quest!
Title: Re: CloudMax's NewGame+ [Bugs] Any% RTA Route Post by: AniMeowzerz on July 18, 2011, 09:06:15 PM A good question. A good answer.Until you notice that you start with bottled bugs on B. It took me a while to think of that aswell. Until you realize that you very very vaguely hinted towards it and didn't explain in this topic how to do NG+ with bugs in bottle on b or link to the video of it so this route by itself kinda looks bananas. It took me a while to type up this suggestion as well. Title: Re: CloudMax's NewGame+ [Bugs] Any% RTA Route Post by: qwerty1605 on July 18, 2011, 11:09:25 PM Whoops! how could I overlook that.
Title: Re: CloudMax's NewGame+ [Bugs] Any% RTA Route Post by: Majora MIM on July 18, 2011, 11:28:36 PM I love this route. It's really twisted ^^
Getting the odd mushroom as a child and the sheik cs skip has style. Title: Re: CloudMax's NewGame+ [Bugs] Any% RTA Route Post by: SnowMan on July 19, 2011, 02:07:30 AM A good question. Until you notice that you start with bottled bugs on B. It took me a while to think of that aswell. LOL This run is pretty awesome, I'm going to give it a try tonight. Title: Re: CloudMax's NewGame+ [Bugs] Any% RTA Route Post by: ZFG on July 19, 2011, 02:07:57 AM Can you buy potion with a duped bottle in 3D?
And you can probably skip dins and just use bombs for Ganon's first phase. Title: Re: CloudMax's NewGame+ [Bugs] Any% RTA Route Post by: Slowking on July 19, 2011, 03:09:16 AM Well since there are no fixed item slots anymore I would guess the game let's you buy with duped bottle since that might as well be a real one.
Just a guess though. Title: Re: CloudMax's NewGame+ [Bugs] Any% RTA Route Post by: Pcct on July 19, 2011, 05:50:46 AM I was going to test this run and I came as far as buying the green potion. He won't let me because I "need a container to put it in"... Maybe go by kakariko to get cucco bottle before buying the potion?
Edit: Yes, I did dupe it, but as ZFG said, we can't seem to buy items without a real bottle, I don't know if this is news or old news. Looks like cucco-bottle is a must then. Title: Re: CloudMax's NewGame+ [Bugs] Any% RTA Route Post by: SnowMan on July 19, 2011, 05:59:39 AM I was going to test this run and I came as far as buying the green potion. He won't let me because I "need a container to put it in"... Maybe go by kakariko to get cucco bottle before buying the potion? •Bottle Dupe over Deku Nuts Title: Re: CloudMax's NewGame+ [Bugs] Any% RTA Route Post by: ZFG on July 19, 2011, 06:33:50 AM •Bottle Dupe over Deku Nuts You can't buy bottled items without a real bottle.Title: Re: CloudMax's NewGame+ [Bugs] Any% RTA Route Post by: SnowMan on July 19, 2011, 06:45:43 AM You can't buy bottled items without a real bottle. Huh, weird Title: Re: CloudMax's NewGame+ [Bugs] Any% RTA Route Post by: SnowMan on July 19, 2011, 06:58:16 AM Computer was spazzing out, didn't mean to double post.
Title: Re: CloudMax's NewGame+ [Bugs] Any% RTA Route Post by: UchihaSasuke on July 19, 2011, 07:39:40 AM so, is the single cycle required because of the RBA 1 arrow limit?
finding a way to RBA quiver hasn't been more needed than now. Title: Re: CloudMax's NewGame+ [Bugs] Any% RTA Route Post by: CloudMax on July 19, 2011, 08:39:55 AM For those who are confused about how we are suppost to buy a green potion early, watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX9DGB3wSwg Quote [10:46] <@ZFG> wow 3d can get a bottle without getting a bottle :Dso, is the single cycle required because of the RBA 1 arrow limit? finding a way to RBA quiver hasn't been more needed than now. We believe that Sold Out RBA quiver, I've been trying alot to get sold out on II without success. Well since there are no fixed item slots anymore I would guess the game let's you buy with duped bottle since that might as well be a real one. Just a guess though. It is actually partially fixed item slots, it is just that you can move them around now, and if you can use an item or not is not decided by the slot, but the item in the slot. It appears that the game still check after the legit bottle slots, and not if you have any bottle at all. ____ Here is a video of the ZD > LH megaflip clip warp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P5jjM562tk It allows us to skip silver scale :) |