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What do you think?

As far as I remember, Navi only tells you to go to the desert after you've beaten the Shadow Temple. Also, the Nocturne of Shadow cutscene in Kakariko starts after you've beaten the Forest, Fire, and Water Temples. In this cutscene, evil escapes from the well and goes to the Shadow Temple. You then learn the Nocturne of Shadow immediately after. So the game is basically pushing you to beat Shadow immediately after getting the Lens of Truth from the well. Then after you beat Shadow, Navi tells you to go to the desert (correct me if I'm wrong). Also, Nintendo's official walkthrough of the game tells you to do Spirit last: http://www.zelda.com/ocarina/walkthru.html

So I'm a "Spirit is last" guy.

The arguments that the "Shadow is last" guys have is:
1. The Shadow Medallion is after Spirit Medallion on the quest screen and file select screen.
2. After beating Shadow, Impa says "Soon you will meet Zelda face to face" (although soon is a pretty broad term, which could easily be refering to "after the next temple").
3. You need to meet more game requirements to enter Shadow than you do in order to enter Spirit.
4. Ice Arrows are effective on Bongo Bongo's hands (although they also work on Gerudo's, which implies leftover programming).
5. Blinking dots of map tell you to go to the desert after beating water.

There's also the fact that ice arrows work on Bongo Bongo. I still always thought of Spirit last though.

Yeah that's a good point. Then again, the Ice Arrows also work on the Gerudo... which has no use in the final programming.

I think the developers were kind of indecisive about which dungeon to make last until the end of developement, as well as when the player should get Ice Arrows.

Oh god I accidently misclicked on the "Remove Poll" button  :-\

But the results were overwhelmingly in favor of Spirit Temple

It was:
5 Spirit
1 Shadow

If you want to vote just leave a comment.

THANKS COSMO.

another argument in favor of shadow last: The blinking dots on the map screen point you toward the desert immediately after beating water temple.

I personally think shadow WAS the last dungeon until very late in development, but they decided to make spirit last at the last minute.

In my opinion, the intended last dungeon of Ocarina of Time is Inside Ganon's Castle.

Ahahaha. Funny guy.

spirit is last, it is the best temple and everyone knows you save the best for last

Shadow because the file select screen says so.

I could go into a big thing about why I think it could be either one of them, and how there is now intended last dungeon and its a choice, but I'll say for Reverse Dungeon Order, (I'm assuming that is why you ask.) just do spirit first.

Shadow last. Always did Spirit before it. Even in the original post in this topic, there's way more compelling evidence in favour of this than the alternative.

As a child, I always beat Shadow before Spirit. Thinking about it now, I think the game designers gave you the choice of which dungeon to beat first. But if I had to guess, I'd go with Shadow, then Spirit..