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edit: I'll probably give this run a shot once I get a recorder.

MM Low% Route by Jiano (I helped a bit)

First Cycle:
Normal Up to Clock Town
Skip to Night of Final Day
99R in Stock Pot Inn(99R)
Fairy in ECT
Deposit 99R(00R)(99R)
Escape ECT
41R Total in Termina Field/NCT(41R)(99R)
Magic
Deposit 41R(140R)
Moons Tear Skip
Ocarina of Time
SoT

Second Cycle:
*ALWAYS KEEP A C BUTTON EMPTY*
Song of Healing
Withdraw 50R(50R)(90R)
Buy Bomb Bag(20B)(00R)(90R)
Wrong Warp to Woodfall from NCT(7B)
To Deku Palace
Get Sonata of Awakening(4B)
Enter Woodfall Temple
Hover to Bow(0B)
Get Fairy Bow
Get Boss Key
To Odolwa
Odolwa with quickspins
Odolwa's Remains
To the Woods of Mystery
Get Bottle
Song of Time

Third Cycle:
Withdraw 60R(30R)
SoDT
Buy 20 Bombs(20B)
Bottle a Fish next to Scarecrow
Scarecrow Song
Hover into Curiosity Shop(9B)
Bottle Dupe over Deku Mask and empty c, then sell the fish(60R)
Deposit 60R(00R)(90R)
Exit WCT
Superslide to fence/hover over fence/slide to bay(5B)
Hess to Zora Mask(4B)
Pinnacle Rock Eggs
Deposit 3 Eggs
Get bombs/arrows behind observatory(9B)
Enter Pirate's Fortress
Hover gap(5B)
Isg slide to kill pirate(4B)
Skip Cut Scene with bow
Get Hookshot
Recoil flip through barrels(3B)
Get 1st Egg
Angled Jump to 2nd Egg
Get caught twice
Swim to observatory
Deposit 2 Eggs
Grab bombs behind observatory(8B)
Enter Pirate's Fortress
Angled Jump to 3rd Egg
Pirate Battle
Get 4th Egg
Get caught twice
Swim to observatory
Deposit last 2 eggs
Get NWBN
Swim to Zora Cape
Bombs next to Owl(13B)
Open GBT
Save/quit
Bombs next to Owl(18B)
Enter GBT
Hover across first gap(15B)
GBT BK Skip(4B)
Kill Gyorg
Gyrog's Remains
Bombs next to Owl(9B)
Save/quit
Bombs next to Owl(14B)
Save/quit
Bombs next to Owl(19B)
Enter Fairy Fountain(18B)
Wrong Warp to Snowhead(5B)
ISG outside of Cave(4B)
Superslide to Ramp(3B)
Enter Snowhead
To the main room
Bombs in basement 2x(13B)
Hookshot to 2nd Floor
Recoil Flips/Long Jumps to Wizrobe(11B)
Get Fire Arrows
Hookshot to 3rd Floor
Hover to 4th Floor(6B)
Hover to Boss Door(2B)
Boss Key Skip(1B)
Goht with arrows
Superslide to goht
Goht's Remains
Song of Time

Fourth Cycle:
Withdraw 60R(60R)(30R)
Buy 20 Bombs(20B)(00R)
Exit ECT
Superslide to Ikana(19B)
Superslide and hovers over the gates(18B)
Hover onto the wall(15B)
Recoil Flip down(14B)
Superslide to Ikana Canyon(13B)
Up to Ikana Owl
Bombs near Owl(18B)
Ascend Stone Tower(0B)
Bombs next to Owl(5B)
save/quit
Bombs next to Owl(10B)
save/quit
Bombs next to Owl(15B)
save/quit
Bombs next to Owl(20B)
Hover to STT(13B)
First Sun Block Skip(6B)
Small Key
Second Sun Block Skip(1B)
Bombs from Neijoros(11B)
2 Recoil Flips to Garo Master(9B)
Get Light Arrows
Death Warp to entrance
Invert STT(5B)
Light Arrow first sun block
Bomb recoil tp next floor(4B)
Recoil Flip to Eyegore(3B)
Kill Eyegore
Get Boss Key
Hookshot to Eyegore bridge
Enter Boss Door
Twinmold with arrows
Song of Time

Fifth Cycle:
Withdraw 30R
Buy 10 Bombs(10B)
Hover into Clock Tower(5B)
Superslide to Majora(4B)
Kill Majora

You didn't give a list of items, even though you state them during the route... something to think about :)

List of Items(21):
Magic
Ocarina of Time
Hero's Bow
Fire Arrows
Light Arrows
Bombs
Hookshot
Bottle
Deku Mask
Zora Mask
Bomb Bag
Quiver
Song of Time
Song of Healing
Sonata of Awakening
New Wave Bossa Nova
Oath to Order
Odolwa's Remains
GohT's Remains
Gyorg's Remains
Twinmold's Remains

Ok fixed.

Items you start with (kokiri sword and heros shield) shouldn't be counted.

Keese and Beamos hover up to STT FTW

Need to update the route with my Stone Tower trick. Also I didn't subtract a bomb for the deathwarp. Plenty of bombs to waste for inverting if need be:

Cross STT gap with Stop Time
First Sun Block Skip(13B)
Small Key
Second Sun Block Skip(8B)
Bombs from a Neijoro(13B)
2 Recoil Flips to Garo Master(11B)
Get Light Arrows
Death Warp to entrance(10B)
Invert STT(9B)
Light Arrow first sun block
Bomb recoil to next floor(8B)
Recoil Flip to Eyegore(7B)

Aw Blast Mask was finally cut.

So sad.

sounds good. the route looks ok

how do you climb stone tower with 18 bombs? Each gap takes 11 bombs... I guess you can megaflip (but only at the end), but that would mean a megaflip is the equivalent of 4 full backflips? (with 18 bombs, you get 9 per gap. Meaning you do 8 backflips across and 1 megaflip. With just backflips, after your 8th bomb, you'd backflip 3 more times (8+3=11) then backflip onto the platform (3+1=4)

I dont get it

Bomb drop from beamos says hi.

Ha, found a way to do this exact route SS, except we need to grab bombs in STT.  So, go left from the first room, and blow up the bombable wall in front of you.  The boxes hiding behind the crates (there's two of them) will hold 5 bombs every single time (or they did when i tested them).

Now, if anyone's insane enough to try this SS, we know it's possible.

@rr- most bomb drops are in the route, but yea that makes sense and allows for the perfect 22 explosives

@SD2- this isn't oot- everything that isn't a grass bush (snowballs, little blades of grass, pots, crates) will always be the same thing. It's beautiful.

It's possible to cross those gaps with 10 explosives(no megaflips). I tested this route a while back, so I know its doable. I know the first gap takes a lot less because you can start on top of that hookshot platform which cuts a lot of explosives.

Alright gents, I got a question...

How are you supposed to do WW to woodfall with just 20 bombs? I tried it, It seems a little akward. Anyone wanna make a demo vid or something? I wanna record the route to post here, and I'm not recording cycle 1.

why record a route when its much faster and easier to read one

1) I wanna try it
2) you guys don't believe I'm doing anything...

I found a place with free & unlimited (however really slow) internet. I can upload my MM 100% segments later, but in the meantime low% would be fun :p

so how would you do the WW? I guess I should keep wall hovers to a minimum?

The bomb counts were all tested so just go by those. It takes 13 explosives to WW with just bombs looking at the route. I'm not sure if the new FFWW is doable without chus. Probably not.

I believe you do 9 Hovers up, 3 Hovers back, then a megaflip.

how the fuck do you gbt bk skip with only bombs

Ok I was bored as fuck and decided to rewrite this route with new discoveries. HERE IT IS FOLKS:

Segment 1:
-Intro
-Normal up to Clock Town
-Reset to skip text

CYCLE ONE:

Segment 2:
-Evil grandma story twice
-Dance with scarecrow once
-Get rupee from inn
-Deposit 99R(0R)(99R)
-Fairy next to inn
-Escape ECT
-Manipulate 41R from bushes(41R)
-Get magic
-Deposit 41R(0R)(140R)
-Get Song of Time
-Play Song of Time and reset to skip cutscene

CYCLE TWO:

***ALWAYS KEEP ONE C BUTTON EMPTY IN THIS CYCLE***

Segment 3:
-Song of Healing
-Hit SCT Owl
-Save

Segment 4:
-Withdraw 50R(50R)(90R)
-Buy Bomb Bag(20B)(0R)
-Exit West Gate
-HESS to gossip stone near swamp(19B)
-Timestop to skip cutscene
-Superslide to Swamp(18B)
-Hit Swamp Owl
-Save

Segment 5:
-Deku hop to dock
-HESS to woods of mystery(17B)
-HESS to witch(16B)
-Get bottle
-Deku bigocto skip
-Enter Deku Palace
-ISGslide past guards(15B)
-1 Bomb Hover to flower(14B)
-Flower to monkey
-Learn sonata
-To Woodfall (don't learn Song of Soaring)
-SoA to open temple
-Hit Woodfall Owl
-Save

Segment 6:
-Enter temple
-ISG+Hover+Megaflip to torch(12B)
-Get bow
-Jump down to deku flower
-Shoot eye switch and deku flower to miniboss
-Get Boss Key
-Deku flower back to main room
-Light torches
-To Odolwa
-Odolwa with quickspins(11B)
-Song of Time

CYCLE 3:

Segment 7:
-Withdraw 60R(60R)(30R)
-SoDT
-Buy 20 Bombs(20B)(0R)
-Catch fish from trading post
-Hover into Curiosity Shop(9B)
-Bottle dupe over Deku Mask, Empty C, sell fish(60R)
-Deposit 60R(0R)(90R)
-Exit WCT
-ISGslide to fence(8B)
-Staircase over fence(6B)
-HESS to Zora Mask(5B)
-Hit bay owl
-Save

Segment 8:
-To Pinnacle Rock
-Get 3 eggs
-Save at bay owl

Segment 9:
-Deposit eggs
-Bombs+Arrows behind lab(10B)
-To Pirate's Fortress
-Hover+Megaflip gap(7B)
-ISGslide past pirate(6B)
-Cutscene skip with bow
-Recoil flip past barrels for hookshot
-First egg
-Angled jump to second egg
-Get caught twice
-Save at bay owl

Segment 10:
-Deposit 2 eggs
-Bombs+arrows from pots again(11B)
-To Pirate's Fortress
-Hookshot torch
-Next 2 eggs
-Get caught twice
-Save at bay owl

Segment 11:
-Deposit 2 eggs
-NWBN
-Save at bay owl

Segment 12:
-Swim to zora cape
-Bombs next to owl(16B)
-Save

Segment 13:
-Bombs next to owl(20B)
-Frame perfect bullshit cutscene skip
-Save

Segment 14:
-Enter GBT
-Hover gap(17B)
-Ridiculous boss key skip method(6B)
-Gyorg's Remains
-Bombs next to owl(11B)
-Save

Segment 15:
-Bombs next to owl(16B)
-Save

Segment 16:
-Bombs next to owl(20B)
-Open FF(19B)
-Wrong Warp(6B)
-ISG outside cave(5B)
-Superslide behind mountain(4B)
-ISG on ramp(3B)
-Enter temple
-Block skip
-Bombs from basement twice(13B)
-Scarecrow skip
-Long jumps to Wizrobe(11B)
-Wizrobe Cutscene Skip
-Fire Arrows
-Hookshot to top floor, hover and megaflip(8B)
-Hovers and megaflip to boss door(5B)
-Boss key skip(4B)
-Goht with arrows
-HESS to warp(3B)
-Song of Time

CYCLE 4:

Segment 17:
-Withdraw 60R(60R)(30R)
-Buy 20 Bombs(20B)(0R)
-HESS to Ikana access(19B)
-Hover over gates(17B)
-Hover over wall(14B)
-Recoil flip down and superslide to canyon(12B)
-Hit Ikana owl
-Save

Segment 18:
-Bombs from grass(17B)
-HESS to stone tower(16B)
-Climb Stone Tower(0B)
-Bomb drop from pot(5B)
-Hit Stone Tower owl
-Save

Segment 19:
-Bomb drop from pot(10B)
-Save

Segment 20:
-Bomb drop from pot(15B)
-Save

Segment 21:
-Bomb drop from pot(20B)
-Time stop cross gap
-Hover over first sun block(13B)
-Key
-Second sun block(5B)
-Drops from Nejirons(15B)
-Recoil flips to Garo Master(13B)
-Light arrows
-To entrance
-Invert STT(9B)
-Light Arrow sun block
-Recoil to next floor(8B)
-Recoil to Eyegore(7B)
-Get boss key
-Hookshot giant's mask chest
-Twinmold with arrows
-Song of Time

CYCLE 5:

Segment 22:
-Withdraw 30R
-Buy 10 bombs
-Save

Segment 23:
-Hover into clock tower
-Majora
-Realize this run has exactly 23 segments
-Shit bricks

23 isn't significant in this game, though.

Indextic brought up a good point; if someone were to do a low% run, they would have to not hit any owls as triggering them is something that is saved when going back in time. As part of 100%, it is required to hit all 10 owls.

This makes segmenting low% impossible, as the best route would have only 2 cycles anyway

Yeah that's one of those things that I think everyone would be okay with over looking.

19 item low% skipped hookshot,bombs,bomb bag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alLSs02XG1Q&feature=plcp

List of Items(19):
Magic
Ocarina of Time
Hero's Bow
Fire Arrows
Light Arrows
Bottle
Deku Mask
Zora Mask
Blast Mask
Quiver
Song of Time
Song of Healing
Sonata of Awakening
New Wave Bossa Nova
Oath to Order
Odolwa's Remains
Goht's Remains
Gyorg's Remains
Twinmold's Remains

How did you get ISG without bombs or chus?

lol, because of a video of you at the moon without those items that no one has skipped yet is going to convince anyone without an explanation? no

i get isg off enemies and pots

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IWovOHrvVk

How long did the completion take? Can't imagine all that hovering with Blast Mask.

still doesn't explain how to get into pirate's fortress

I get all the eggs from pinnacle rock and skip pirate fortress

You only have 2 duped bottles to work with. GL with making that work. You can only get 5 eggs max.

Can you explain in detail how you did this? You could catch eggs in both of your duped bottles, use song of time storage to duplicate the eggs, dump the eggs in the lab, then go get three more eggs (including your real bottle this time) but that is still only 5 eggs. So unless you found a way to keep the eggs in the lab after doing song of time storage, I don't see how this is possible (without more than 2 duplicated bottles).

you have to catch 2 eggs in the duped bottles keeping 1 c button empty. go back in time put your real bottle on 1 of your 2 c buttons, then bottle dupe to empty c let the bird steal your bottle giving you another empty c to bottle dupe over. catch 2 more eggs giving you 4 then you can go back in time and drop off the 4 eggs and catch the last 3.

That sounds like it should work, how about climbing stone tower? What do you get isg off of?

fire keese

Can you make a video of you getting isg off of fire keese? I've tried it before and others have and I haven't seen it done.

Fire keese isg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teMKkjeavwY&feature=youtu.be

cafde and i have been trying to solve this low% and i'm very curious as to your route through stone tower. theoretically it's possible but i want to know what you did, specifically for getting past the two sun blocks

I skip the first sun block with map room early and get the key in the map room then for the second sun block I get isg off the pot and hover once off a boe then blast mask hover. inverted tower i just blast mask recoil flip to the eyegore bridge and get isg off his laser and then bk skip

did you time this run or was it just a playthrough?

just a playthrough i'll do a real run soon

Ummmm... Vid soon please...??? Low% has always been my favorite to watch I love seeing how people find ways around "needed" items or routes

Instead of doing two hovers up to Ikana, It would be faster to fairy fountain wrong warp. We'd get to the fairy fountain using flying Zora off the turtle after GBT. GG timed it and it's 6 minutes faster.

To reset the turtle after GBT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7CETbPo2e0

Get ISG for the FFWW:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay0HWyJHko8

Two hovers? Is the recoil flip not done by hovering off a bombchu to get on the outer edge? But I guess even if that was the case I'd still assume the FFWW to be faster than just the other hover alone, though.

So here's the current route

Majora's Mask Low% (19 items) (English only)
 
 
First Cycle
Mask Salesman cutscene skip
Don't bother with rupees
 
Keep atleast 1 c-button empty at all time
Soh
Play SoDT
NCT
Blast Mask
Tatl isg off great bay fence
Zora Mask
SoT
 
Termina field
Gossip stone time stop
Swamp
Witch Bottle
Deku Palace
Sonata
Woodfall
Deku Baba ISG w/ c-up
Bow Hover
Bow
Boss Key
Odolwa
Oath
SoT
 
ISoT
North exit
Get arrow drop from bushes
Shoot ice
Mountain Village
To snowhead with zora jumpslashes
Lullaby skip w/ blast mask
Once inside play SoDT
2 keys + Fire Arrows
BK Skip
Goht
Back to CT
Dupe over empty c-button, bow and deku mask
Tatl isg off fence
pinnacle rock eggs in duped bottles
SoT
 
SoDT
Get your real bottle stolen by takkuri
Dupe over the next empty c-button
Tatl isg off fence
Get 1 zora egg from pinnacle rock
SoT
 
ISoT
Tatl isg off fence
Deposit 4 eggs
Pick up the last 3 from pinnacle rock
NWBN
Turtle CS Skip
GBT BK Skip w/ blast mask
Gyorg
Zora shop SoT Storage
 
Flying Zora to FF
FFWW to Ikana
Stone Tower hover w/ blast mask
Map room early
Get Key
Water room
Get 2nd Key
Boe hover for 2nd sunblock
Recoil through updraft room
Light Arrows
Death Warp
Stack up on magic + Arrows
Invert STT
SoDT to night 3
STT BK Skip w/ blast mask
Twinmold
ISoT
Run back to CT
Giant's Cutscene
Majora

wow this is gonna be like a 4 hour run lmao

I have a 3:59:36

i rest my case.

Someone should get the world record in this god awful category so i have an excuse to run it again.

are there any megaflips in it?

We skip bomb bag lol

Found a trick to get to snowhead after FFWW but I just realised it requires two fairies usable on death

- Just found out that it can be done with just one fairy, it's just really precise. I'll try to get a video up at some point, but it requires a lot of buffering, so I can't really do it on emulator.

It's a stupid and hard trick anyway, and the 30 minute hover is probably better

You should upload it anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiAgyxjBEIA

Unsure if it fits into the route, I hope it doesn't because it's dumb

Couldn't you just start the death + pause buffering right away instead of doing the SoDT stuff? That'd make it better I think, and wouldn't require its own cycle.

You don't get far enough before the wind kicks in. You need to play the SoDTs so that you can get that little bit of extra distance

I'm gonna time all this stuff tomorrow.

If it turns out to be faster i'm gonna be so pissed lol

so, made a vid for clock tower early
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy0VnmUFKWc

So here's the new killer route for 19-items (english)


Intro
Mask Salesman CS Skip
Grandma stories to Day 3
Scarecrow to Night 3
Get the stray fairy
Enter North Clock Town (Don't bother with the escape glitch)
Get magic
Gainer to Clock Tower
Get Song of Time
Play Song of Time and reset to skip cutscene


Song of Healing
Song of Double Time
Enter North Clock Town
Obtain Blast Mask
Exit Clock Town
Tatl ISG from Great Bay Fence
Hover over the fence w/ Blast Mask
Obtain Zora Mask
Song of Time


Inverted Song Of Time
Exit Clock Town
To Swamp (Skip the cutscene by doing the gossip stone timestop glitch)
Witch Bottle
To Deku Palace
Obtain Sonata of Awakening
Petrie Jump to skip dragonflies
Talk to Owl and fly across the gap (DO NOT Obtain Song of Soaring!)
Woodfall Temple
Fly across the first room
Damage ISG w/ C-up from Deku Baba
Hover across gap w/ Blast Mask
Obtain Bow
Get the Boss Key
To Odolwa
Kill Odolwa (DO NOT Pick up the Heart Container)
Oath of Order
Catch Fairy by the Woodfall Owl
Fairy Fountain Warp to Snowhead
Lullaby Skip
Enter Snowhead Temple
Obtain 2 small Keys
Kill Wizrobe for Fire Arrows
To the top
Recoil down to the side and get ISG from pots
Hover to Boss Door w/ Blast Mask
Snowhead BK Skip
Kill Goht (DO NOT pick up the Heart Container)
Run back to Clock Town
To Curiosity Shop
Dupe over Empty C-button, Bow and Deku Mask
Exit Clock Town
Tatl ISG from Great Bay Fence
Hover over the fence w/ Blast Mask
To Pinnacle Rock
Put all the Zora Eggs in duplicated Bottles
Song of Time


Song of Double Time
Get your Real Bottle stolen by Takkuri
To Curiosity Shop
Dupe over another empty C-Button
Tatl ISG from Great Bay Fence
Hover over the fence w/ Blast Mask
To Pinnacle Rock
Catch 1 egg in duplicated Bottle
Song of Time


Inverted Song of Time
Tatl ISG from Great Bay Fence
Hover over the fence w/ Blast Mask
Deposit 4 Eggs
To Pinnacle Rock
Get the remaining 3
New Wave Bossa Nova
To Zora Cape
Catch A Fairy
Turtle CS Skip
Great Bay Temple
Catch A Fairy
To Main Room
ISG from pots
Great Bay Temple BK Skip
Kill Gyorg (DO NOT pick up the Heart Container)
To Zora Shop
Song of Time Storage
Back to zora cape
Flying Zora to Fairy Fountain
Fairy Fountain Warp to Ikana
To Stone Tower
Get ISG from fire keese
Hover up Stone Tower w/ Blast Mask
Enter Stone Tower Temple
Map Room Early w/ Blast Mask
Kill Armos w/ Blast Mask
Obtain small Key
Up the Stairs
Open locked door and make it to the other side for another key
Swim through opening and open locked door
Sunblock Hover w/ Boes and Blast Mask
Updraft Room w/ Recoil Flips
Garo Master and Obtain Light Arrows
Death Warp to Entrance
Refill on magic and arrows
Invert Stone Tower Temple
Song of Time Storage
2nd updraft room
Get ISG from Hiploop
Stone Tower BK Skip
Kill Twinmold with Song of Time Storage


Clock Tower Hover w/ Blast Mask
Oath of Order for Giants
Majora
.Done

Sub 3:25 should be possible with this one

found a new, faster way for the lullaby skip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9wyXfSGUhY

saves about 5 mins to hovering all the way up.

slower than GNSs method but well, not as hard

inverting ST would be faster with the old any% method i suppose

just blast mask recoil flip over, find the angle, sidehop and shoot while falling (shouldnt be a prob with a setup+buffered)

like here at 7:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEFZCxnBiNM



the only thing is, i tried it a couple of times but can't really find the right angle/position to be able to shoot it

Two things.


1. Flying Zora does not work on JP.

2. There's a ladder missing inside Great Bay which makes the BK skip slow as hell.

English is still faster.

climb turtle with 3 hovers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCIQ-JhTyu4

we don't have to bother about the cs skip, and less hovering, hurray for low% \o/

Found this neat timesaver in Great Bay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViDdiiVwYnQ

17 items now then? waiting for confirmation on trick, whether it works on console or not.

Confirmed to work on console, However..


- Where do we store SoT in Snowhead?
- How is Majora going to go down?

edit: We should discuss a route in #mm when you're not busy

ent found a neat spot to store SoT in snowhead, maybe ill make a vid of it tomorrow.

majora without arrows could be tough, but its doable

What can be worrying is the game does occasionally crashes on you with the white screen when you transform in the midst of going to 0th Day (it did on PJ64 as well as VC). If why it does this is not figured out, or if it does it by random, the run is a bit of a gamble.

Random crashes? lovely.

It's not random, it's just if you put on the mask too late. It's not really that hard to learn the timing, it's pretty lenient. You can also get the graphics to explode on VC, not sure what frame was used but I've never seen that on emu so it might be the equivalent of the crash, but only happens in certain areas maybe?

Video of the texture mess: http://www.twitch.tv/mmfruit/c/3095802

The video runs too slow for the current PC I'm on, but from what I could see, the texture mess is the same that I experienced from Laundry Pool and South Clock Town. It stopped working for me when I deleted the file and it's what I couldn't replicate on a new copied file. I personally liked the texture mess from Zora mask and I never got to see FD's.

In your video where you showed off Deku using Hookshot, I noticed a possible difference between emu and VC. On VC, some areas will have the HS chains invisible, and in some they don't. In areas that don't (i.e. West Clock Town), the doors will become invisible when you take out the HS but they are still solid (and still follows schedule). Transforming makes the doors visible again. On emu, HS chains are visible in probably all areas, since you showed that they are in West Clock Town. I'm curious to try this on locked dungeon doors if the HS chains are invisible in one of the temples, but I don't think it will have an effect (and HS is skipped so lol).

so here's the route for snowhead temple http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hucWq4Y674

pastebin (stole some parts from gns, sorry) http://pastebin.com/vijsNR49



edit: made a new vid

having a hot spring water would roughly save 4 minutes in snowhead temple, and its a detour of about 1:30 to get it, if we don't do a FFWW..

I made 2 possible routes, the first one of which I think is faster: http://pastebin.com/BUraf025
 
alternate route, I think a little slower, but Lullaby skip is very early in the run and stone tower is earlier too: http://pastebin.com/J66e5dYu


pastebin that lists differences between the 2 versions: http://pastebin.com/UcvN4K8E

i made the newest route: http://pastebin.com/2nksxfcp
please try it.

new snowhead route is hard. if you hate it, you should get hot spring water after blast mask.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy27xdoq440

not sure if much faster with getting the boss key, but maybe