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Title: Low% SS
Post by: ING-X on March 25, 2010, 08:31:55 PM
Well since this doesn't have a topic I might as well make one...

Low% SS route v1.2

-Intro
-Sword
-Shield
-Forest escape
-Backwalk to Hyrule Castle
-Get 40R from the chains
-Talk to Malon
-Enter Hyrule Castle area, then leave and re-enter
-Talk to Malon for egg
-To Talon
-Push box as far as you can and wait until sunrise
-Wake up Talon
-Push box and jump + jumpslash off of it
-Sidehop past guards
-Get Zelda's Letter + Zelda's Lullaby
-Backwalk to Kakariko
-Cucco collecting for bottle
-Catch bug in Cucco bottle
-Pick up cucco from pen and get ISG from it
-Use cucco dive to enter BotW
-Use OI to drain well
-Skulltula clip for chus
-Exit BotW
-To Graveyard
-Shadow early w/ house hover or superslide teleport
-Get hover boots (let Dead Hand hit you down to 1/2 heart)
-Deathwarp out of Shadow with a chu
-To Lake Hylia
-Go fishing
-Get gold scale and steal rod on the way out
-Get Ruto bottle
-Climb out of water, pause and equip Ruto bottle to C-Right (you will now have Deku Sticks on B)
-Down ZR to Kakariko
-Enter Kakariko (should be night)
-To graveyard
-Reveal bugs and use them to dupe over Zelda's Letter
-Backflip bottle to B with ZL bottle for arrows
-Pull any grave and reveal Poe
-Kill poe with 2 chus and catch him in bottle
-Equip Poe to C-Right and RBA
-Use 3 chus and dump bottle for halfmilk RBA and 31 chus
-Use the bugs you just released to dupe over Ruto bottle
-To Hyrule Field
-Wait until sunrise
-To ToT
-Re-equip sword and DoT skip
-Pull master sword and reverse DoT Skip
-Backwalk to Kakariko
-To Graveyard
-Shadow early
-Backwalk hover over first gap
-Bird statue
-To spinning scythe room
-Jumpslash SB
-Activate boat
-Chu pillar
-Get Boss Key
-Get small key from floormaster room (get extra hearts from the pot)
-To Bongo Bongo
-ISG kill
-Shadow medallion
-Up DMT
-Get magic
-Back to Kakariko the way you came
-Backwalk to GV
-Bridge skip with hover boost + jumpslash
-Go through Hideout (over low wall)
-Old school gate skip
-Across Haunted Wasteland
-Enter spirit
-Block skip w/ hover boots
-Chu crystal switch
-Get small key from right room
-To main room
-Get ZL small key (get chus from lizalfos room on the way)
-Sideflip hover over to adult side
-To IK and mirror shield
-Shine mirror shield on sun symbol to get another small key
-To moving wall room
-Climb moving wall
-Get BK
-Mirror puzzle to lower platform
-Burn the face, jump off to child side
-Get ISG off of barred door and hover back up to platform with 15 chus
-Hover to boss door
-Nabooru Knuckle and Twinrova for spirit medallion
-Back through Haunted Wasteland
-Get thrown out by Gerudo guards and jump into the river
-To Temple of Time
-Light arrows
-To Ganon's Castle
-Get Spirit Trial chus
-Do armos trial skip
-Climb tower and single cycle Dorf
-Escape and kill ganon with shield-dropped chus
-Win

Changes from 1.1:

-Gets bugs for OI before entering BotW (I forgot that in the old route)
-Uses chus to hover back up to platform instead of backtracking all the way back to the mirror puzzle room


Title: Re: Low% SS
Post by: RingRush on March 25, 2010, 10:48:30 PM
Ing claims that you can't enemy megaflip on PAL, so you have to get the Fairy Ocarina.

I then devised a route on PAL that gets one item less than his route, but requires skipping Hover Boots, making the run much harder. Now ing has a choice - play NTSC or not at all :P.

Victory post.


Edit: If you are curious, my route skips Deku Shield, Hover Boots, and Hylian Shield in favor of Gerudo License and Requiem of Spirit. I get Mirror Shield as child, which is possible without Deku Shield through a plethora of tricks (as the only place where shield is absolutely required before is to get to the crystal switch for chus, which he will have already obtained from the well). Reverse DoT skip is accomplished through Requiem of Spirit. This method wouldn't be useful on NTSC, since you could get the Deku Shield to skip Fairy Ocarina, which is the same ammount of items and allows you to grab Hover Boots.


Title: Re: Low% SS
Post by: Lexkeeta on March 26, 2010, 02:15:14 AM
i just noticed that ing's screen name is all caps


Title: Re: Low% SS
Post by: ING-X on March 27, 2010, 02:55:30 AM
That's all fine and dandy ringrush, except that the gate in gerudo's fortress doesn't open automatically when you get gerudo card, meaning that you're stuck out in the middle of the desert :P


Title: Re: Low% SS
Post by: RingRush on March 27, 2010, 04:55:43 PM
Then get Bomb, Bomb Bag, Requiem of Spirit, Minuet of Forest, Bow, Quiver instead of Bottle, Ruto's Bottle, Golden Scale, Hover Boots, Hylian Shield, Deku Stick.

Once again, this only saves items because you have to grab the Ocarina.

PAL run still harder.


Title: Re: Low% SS
Post by: ING-X on March 27, 2010, 05:11:43 PM
Well good luck getting to spirit chus and mirror shield without a deku stick. You need it for the key that gets you to the room with the chus.


Title: Re: Low% SS
Post by: RingRush on March 27, 2010, 05:18:13 PM
Or you could just silver block skip as child :p.


Title: Re: Low% SS
Post by: ING-X on March 27, 2010, 05:19:03 PM
how would you silver block skip without a deku shield


Title: Re: Low% SS
Post by: RingRush on March 27, 2010, 05:22:52 PM
You get Deku Shield.

In other news I just traded 6 items for 6 items...I can't count.


Edit: However, FW may work instead of Bombs/Bomb Bag to return from desert...I'd need to calculate chu totals for the run however.

Edit2: It is possible...it requires a partial bubble hover (3 or 4 backflip-shields).

Edit3: New idea, get Goron's Ruby instead of Farore's Wind, so you can hover back over the fence after chu bowling.


Title: Re: Low% SS
Post by: ING-X on March 27, 2010, 10:39:16 PM
lol... so i guess the fw route failed because you can't get back past kz after going past him :P


Title: Re: Low% SS
Post by: RingRush on March 28, 2010, 01:15:53 AM
Ing, you can, it just wastes enough chus to require 7-8 bubble hovers in forest temple, which is just too much.

New route should have no chu problems though.


Title: Re: Low% SS
Post by: ING-X on March 28, 2010, 01:37:21 AM
can you do me a favor and post the new pal route so i can see what i'm dealing with if cosmo escape ends up being impossible on pal?


Title: Re: Low% SS
Post by: Elminster on May 19, 2010, 02:25:21 AM
Low% SS route v2.0

-Intro
-Sword
-Shield
-Forest escape
-Backwalk and water ESS to Kakariko
-Cucco collecting for bottle
-Pick up Cucco from pen and get ISG from it
-Use Cucco dive to enter BotW
-Get small key
-Actor replacement glitch
-Kill Dead Hand
-Skulltula clip for chus
-Exit BotW
-To Graveyard
-Shadow early w/ house hover or superslide teleport
-Get hover boots (let Dead Hand hit you down to 1/2 heart)
-Deathwarp out of Shadow with a chu
-Exit Kakariko
-Owl skip with sign
-Backwalk to castle
-Get 40R from the chains
-Enter Hyrule Castle area
-Roll into tree and have the skulltula get you down to one heart
-To Talon
-Bombchu boost to Castle Courtyard
-Sidehop past guards
-Get Zelda's Letter
-Zelda's Lullaby cutscene skip
-To Lake Hylia
-Go fishing
-Get gold scale and steal rod on the way out
-Get Ruto bottle
-Climb out of water, pause and equip Ruto bottle to C-Right (you will now have Deku Sticks on B)
-Down ZR to Kakariko
-Enter Kakariko (should be night)
-To graveyard
-Reveal bugs and use them to dupe over Zelda's Letter
-Backflip bottle to B with ZL bottle for arrows
-Pull any grave and reveal Poe
-Kill poe with 2 chus and catch him in bottle
-Equip Poe to C-Right and RBA
-Use 3 chus and dump bottle for halfmilk RBA and 31 chus
-Use the bugs you just released to dupe over Ruto bottle
-To Hyrule Field
-Wait until sunrise
-To ToT
-Re-equip sword and DoT skip
-Pull master sword and reverse DoT Skip
-Backwalk to Kakariko
-To Graveyard
-Shadow early
-Backwalk hover over first gap
-Bird statue
-To spinning scythe room
-Jumpslash SB
-Activate boat
-Chu pillar
-Get Boss Key
-Get small key from floormaster room (get extra hearts from the pot)
-To Bongo Bongo
-ISG kill
-Shadow medallion
-Up DMT
-Get magic
-Back to Kakariko the way you came
-Backwalk to GV
-Bridge skip with hover boost + jumpslash
-Go through Hideout (over low wall)
-Old school gate skip
-Across Haunted Wasteland
-Enter spirit
-Block skip w/ hover boots
-Chu crystal switch
-Get small key from right room
-To main room
-Get ZL small key (get chus from lizalfos room on the way)
-Sideflip hover over to adult side
-To IK and mirror shield
-Shine mirror shield on sun symbol to get another small key
-To moving wall room
-Climb moving wall
-Get BK
-Mirror puzzle to lower platform
-Burn the face, jump off to child side
-Get ISG off of barred door and hover back up to platform with 15 chus
-Hover to boss door
-Nabooru Knuckle and Twinrova for spirit medallion
-Back through Haunted Wasteland
-Get thrown out by Gerudo guards and jump into the river
-To Temple of Time
-Light arrows
-To Ganon's Castle
-Get Spirit Trial chus
-Do armos trial skip
-Climb tower and single cycle Dorf
-Escape and kill ganon with shield-dropped chus
-Win

Changes from 1.2:

-Uses the new method for well chus that doesn't require Zelda's Lullaby, allows us to skip Weird Egg and Chicken


Title: Re: Low% SS
Post by: ING-X on May 08, 2011, 06:53:16 PM
Does anyone know what this route would be like nowadays with newer discoveries?


Title: Re: Low% SS
Post by: Majora MIM on May 08, 2011, 07:39:01 PM
What is that thing you can't do on PAL?


Title: Re: Low% SS
Post by: ING-X on May 08, 2011, 07:45:36 PM
PAL version can't megaflip off of damage sources that don't do constant damage (e.g. bombs do constant damage, while nuts from deku scrubs do not). Therefore, forest escape old school method to skip fairy ocarina if impossible on PAL.

tl;dr pal sux


Title: Re: Low% SS
Post by: Majora MIM on May 08, 2011, 07:49:24 PM
Then buy a GC version.

It works on PAL GC.


Title: Re: Low% SS
Post by: ING-X on May 08, 2011, 08:53:50 PM
I have an NTSC N64 version.


Title: Re: Low% SS
Post by: Steve on May 08, 2011, 10:35:54 PM
Here's the route I've been testing. Child section is day/night tested. Feel free to make suggestions on it, there's a lot of optional tricks to save chus but I tried to put the safest tricks in there. Getting lullaby before going to hylia is about the same time, and day/night works out but you still have to take the time to rba, get the poe, etc

Sword and shield

lost woods forest escape

to kakariko

4 cuccoos then cutscene dive to enter well

well chus+99 rupee chest (10c)(99r)

to graveyard, superslide teleport to enter shadow early (9c)

megaflip across gap, dead hand, hover boots, death warp out (7c)

to hyrule field

hess or superslide using grass to hylia (6c)

enter fishing pond, get gold scale, and steal rod (79r)

ruto bottle

owl to market and grab 20 rupees from chains (99r) (if you have full hearts take damage from the fall, if you have half a heart make sure you
don't)

buy hylian shield and head to castle(19r)

rba ruto's bottle for 1 arrow and dupe bugs over letter while waiting for day, take damage from GS so you have 1/2 a heart

megaflip and enter castle (5c)

cheating guards, letter, lullaby cs skip (4c)

grab 40 rupees from chains (59r)

buy poe from shop and half milk rba chus, re-equip sword (31c)(39r)

DoT skip, cutscene, reverse DoT skip

to kakariko, enter graveyard

house hover to seam, enter shadow (26c)

head through normally, ocarina items for boat, get isg off stalfos (try to avoid killing them, they drop deku nuts) chu pillar (25c)

boss key, small key from room with invisible ceiling master, (drink poe if needed for health, can grab another after shadow is done)

bongo isg strats, shadow medallion

grab another poe if needed, head up death mountain for magic, through goron city, megaflip to bridge, enter hyrule field (21c)

either head straight to GV (magic jar isg route) or fishing pond to steal rod (iron bar isg route)

recoil slide or megaflip slide across bridge (if you stole rod, half milk rba chus now) (21c or 31c)

make way to top of the fortress for low wall skip, lws, old school gate skip or easier megajump gate skip (19c/29c)

navigate desert, enter spirit temple

silver block skip, chu switch on ceiling (18/28c)

silver rupee boulder room, small key, up to statue room

ocarina items for small key, enter lizalfos room

chu switch for 10 chu chest, deathwarp with lizalfos (27/37c)

silver block skip, back to statue room, use small key

one chu to kill beamos (26/36c), mirror shield, small key

to moving wall room, optional 1 chu to kill a beamos (25/35c)

boss key, mirror puzzle (24/34c)

shine light, lure magic jar if doing that route

if doing magic jar route, 10 hovers to boss door, if iron bars drop down, get isg, and do 27-28 hovers up (most likely will have to shield drop a chu to land in the head since you'd most likely be over a slippery surface) (14/6c)

knuckle and twinrova, spirit medallion

cross desert in reverse, get caught by guards at the gate

jump down in the river or go back across like you did the first time (13/5c)

to temple of time, LA cutscene, to ganon's castle

route 2 needs to grab spirit trial chus (do one hover off armos statue, take hover boots off and backflip), route 1 could grab them, takes 10 hits but it's kind of easy to miss the tail sometimes

make way up tower, equipping light arrows at some point, don't choke on dorf, escape

shield drop chus on ganon's tail, win