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Eumeus14 and I wanted to see if anyone would be interested in a TAS competition since MTA hasn't continued his in so long. Here's the challenge we came up with. Let us know if you would like to join. I'll put more information about deadlines and stuff if enough people want to join.  :)

http://imgur.com/tmA1OQ6 ALSO no goron tunic

Bizhawk savestate: https://www.mediafire.com/?r9da7259mpx2qei (only works for version 1.8.1, sorry)
Mupen savestate: http://www.mediafire.com/download/ejxwq5vypik05ra/Task_1.st

Try to have it done by May 27, 2015

If the due date isn't too short i will probably join this TAS Competition. To be honest i really like the idea of giving a Zelda TAS Competition another try.

Okay. I'll probably set the date to the end of the month. Is May 26-27 good? I'll be out of town on the 28th

me and moronicTAS would love to join but we cant open the download file.
could you reupload it in a rar or zip archive ? we dont know how to extract or open it.

im not sure how to make it a zip file. are you guys using bizhawk or mupen? why won't the file open for you?

here does this work? https://www.mediafire.com/?r9da7259mpx2qei

we are both using mupen im sry for wasting your time
could you upload the mupen savestate instead ?

oh okay sorry. https://www.mediafire.com/?xofzltj6qrrztni here

darb....are we really that dumb xD ? what kinda file is this "task" file...
we cant open it with mupen o.0
how are we supposed to open it xD

You said you wanted a zip file, so i put the state file in a zip file. ._. i'm kinda confused. Why didn't the original state file load for you?

the file you uploaded is not a savefile .... a normal savefile would be .st or st1 and so on :)
we really want to do this tas but we cant open the file
if we select run in mupen and then load as we cant open it it doesnt even show up so my guess is it has to be some other file

Okay. I'm really sorry. I had to have my friend make the mupen save state for me because I use bizhawk, but i'll try to get a working mupen state for you. I've never done a TAS competition before so I'm not familiar with doing this kind of stuff :O

http://www.mediafire.com/download/ejxwq5vypik05ra/Task_1.st here you go! hope this works  ;) ;)

its totaly okay dont worry :)!

my apologies for the faulty mupen state, hopefully it will work now

thx for reuploading im gonna check it out later :)

ok let me know if it doesn't work for some reason

Yes that's enough time for me to participate the competition, i wish you guys good luck and fun, may the best win. :)

:) glad you can join. let me know if one of the savestates doesn't work. We were having trouble earlier

Don't worry everything worked perfectly first try for me, no issues with the .st file for mupen.

I do not know a lot about it yet, but I would love to do this.

I'd love for you to! Don't worry about experience. It would be impressive to me if you just finished this. There's another entrant who doesn't have any TASing experience either so you are up against some fair game.

Is it allowed to change the Item on the B-Button?

as long as it isnt one of the banned items. It can't be any projectile, so no elemental arrows on B

Hey dennis were you planning on BAing boomerang?

I think I'll try to join it :)

Is it a problem if I use Bizhawk 1.9.x ?

I might give it a try if I can get the time. Good thing I know just about nothing about TASing this game Lol.

Cool challenge tho. I look forward to seeing what everyone does.

Amateseru: You can use 1.9.x, but you'll have to get your own save state. If you decide to do that, just make sure that the pillar blocking the loading zone to Death Mountain Crater is pulled out. But for future tasks, I'll provide a savestate from 1.9.x so everyone can use it. I'm sorry for the inconvenience of this task.

Keymakr: That'd be awesome if you could join. So far we have close to 10 entrants/people interested which is beyond my expectations. The more the better. Also, don't worry about inexperience. There are a couple others who are interested who have never TASed either. Also for your first TAS, it's an accomplishment simply to finish a TAS regardless of how unoptimized it is.

No problem for the savestate, I know I just have some trouble with 1.8.1 on my computer, not sure why... But I don't see what block you're talking about ?

you know the block in darunia's room that you have to pull? to open the path to death mountain crater? that one

make sure you pull it out because both the mupen savestate and the bizhawk savestate have it pulled

Oh ok Sure no problem

I should have mentioned it earlier, but mupen users, when you are done with your TAS, send your .st and .m64 file to Eumeus14@gmail.com

and I'll handle the bizhawk people. bradwickliffe@yahoo.com

I am almost done, will problaby submit my TAS tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, and Eumeus please let me know if the TAS file desynch or something, would be annyoing to miss the participation cause of such a reason. ;)

great! we'll let you know if we have problems

I'll be sure to let you know Dennis

Just sent my submission to your emaul Eumeus. Let me know if you have any issues with it or it desyncs or anything.

My first TAS, so i guess it isn't bad. My movement from the skulltula token to the lava is hilariously bad though.

My submission has been filed, I've got a good feeling about this. *poses*

Nothing I did was fast but for not knowing how to record a video in Bizhawk three hours ago I think I did okay.

when is the release ? or when are you guys gonna upload the comparison Video, im so exited :D

Well, it's probably gonna be sometime next week now :(. It was gonna be yesterday, but not everyone had turned in their movies, so I have to wait til I get back in town (I'll be out of town from today til June 3)

Compilation video is uploaded:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkGuo2AIc2E
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ws08Yn5v-c

i saw the task 1. And I want to participate for this competition.

Homerfunky, we will be doing more tasks, so feel free to join :)

That was really fun to do, I'm waiting for the next task :3

I wanna try to join, it looked fun =)) I never done a TAS before though so idk how i can make this.. I can't even do a gainer with TAS controls ;(

@Gabyelnuevo, I can try and help you with it

Aw sweet, they put me first in the video.  Probably because it was the best submission.  I mean, look at how fast those backflip hovers were!

That really wasn't bad for learning how to record a TAS and then doing the whole video in three hours.  If I did angled hovers instead of using hover boots (which would've only taken like ten minutes but I wanted to go to bed) I could've maybe been under a minute.  I don't think I saw anyone else use hover boots for anything, but I like my way of collecting the skull token.  It looked like someone did a 0,0,0 glitch to kill the skull by dropping a bomb in the bottom of GC; I did that on accident once but couldn't reproduce it :-X If you killed the skull that way, you should be able to collect the skull with hover boots out of the HESS, which would look extremely cool.

I'm looking forward to actually putting time into the next task.

Anyone else notice the guys who are hosting the competition just happened to win the first round?

oh sweet! I can't wait to see your next submission. Surely you'll have more time to make the next one. we're gonna make it due june 24. I'll post it hopefully some time today.

Task 2 is here! Here's the challenge:

http://i.imgur.com/JkyLx0e.png NO elemental arrows either, in case you were wondering

Savestates:

Mupen (both U and J states): http://www.mediafire.com/download/ir4nfw5fvjv96ol/Task2.7z
Bizhawk (1.9.4) (J version): https://www.mediafire.com/?6qs5oarfwoj5gqp

This one will be due on June 24, 2015. Let me know if you have questions or problems. Good job everyone who did task 1. I hope to see you all again for task 2!

Bizhawk people: send bk2's to bradwickliffe@yahoo.com
Mupen people: send m64's to Eumeus14@gmail.com

before anyone asks, you can use hookshot, just not longshot

Wow, cool, touchpad, just refresh the window like two seconds before I submit my post, thanks.  What was I saying again.  Bah.

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I've got a couple of random TAS-noob questions here to make sure I'm not doing things wrong (I'm using BizHawk 1.9.4 at the moment):

1) Unlike pause buffering when you push the buttons on the frame you want Link to react to them, when I use frame advance it seems I need to input everything two visual frames early.  Is that normal?  It makes aiming ESSes really annoying.

2) I started on task two last night and my video immediately desyncs.  If I start playing it and press F1 to load save state one it plays perfectly, though.  I made that state just after starting the video and repositioning Link.  Anyone have any good ideas on how to salvage this? I'm thinking about copying the save state, starting a new movie, and opening both movies in a text editor and copying the inputs from the desync'd video over.  The movie's only like six seconds long, though; it wouldn't kill me to try redoing what I did last night and get Link in a better ending position.  But I also doubt this will be the only time ever that I have a video desync on me, so let's ask now.

@TheCowness

1) yes that is normal. even in normal casual gameplay there is a 2 frame input delay; it's just inherent in the game itself. Yeah, it is kind of annoying to deal with, but that's where note taking comes in handy. I like to write down my frame numbers for every input i do so that I can map out what frame I need to make future inputs on, because obviously it is impossible to determine what you need to do just by looking at the screen.

2) i have no idea man :/ I've never heard of that happening.

Doesn't look like I can fix it, but whatever.  I tried copying over the input list and got an error saying something about the header.  The .bk2 file looks like it's a bunch of files mashed together with a lot of binary data, so I didn't really have high hopes for editing it successfully in Notepad++.  I kinda wanted to redo the beginning anyway so I can look EVEN COOLER but hopefully it doesn't happen again.

it shouldnt happen again. ive never heard of bizhawk doing that

It loos like you didn't see my pm Darb so I'll ask my question here (anyway this may interest some people)

When an ennemy is considered as killed ? I mean let's say I killed a scrub but I'm far enough to it that if I turn the camera it will be unloaded (just like the deku baba in no RBA/WW in the forest temple)... so do we have to wait for the ennemy to completely disappear ?

Edit: also since I'm pretty new in the TAS community, I was wondering if it's possible to have a positive speed of 18 and how to do it ?

@amataseru As long as an enemy has been damaged for the final time, that would count as being killed. As for positive 18 speed, you can do a forward A slide, which is done by shielding damage in a roll, then alternating between Down and neutral every visual frame. This is also how weirdshots work

Ok big thanks for both answers


Edit: well actually... I just can't A-slide, I don't know how to do it and I guess it's possible with a double chu explosion, would it be possible to have at least a pastebin somewhere ?

Also that would be nice if someone has useful values on MHS for Bizhawk 1.9.4 :3 (or if someone knows by how much you have to move the adresses between 1.9.1 and 1.9.4 because I just can't find the good number u_u)

Editedit: Got what I wanted, huge thanks to Andzura http://pastebin.com/48Kwp2fF

Got my submission sent in.  Had another desync tonight that I noticed after I finished, but it was close to the end so whatever.  I probably didn't lose more than half a second from redoing it hastily.  The whole thing's pretty sloppy but it looks so cooooooooooooooooooooooool.  And I think my strategy was really effective.  But WE WILL SEE.

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT FOR BIZHAWK PEOPLE:

Since I have had trouble with almost every person's movie who used BizHawk, I'm going to ask that we all use the same exact settings for next task so that I don't have problems loading it.

Please make sure your settings are as follows:

Core Type:                                                  Pure Interpreter
Rsp Plugin:                                                  Hle
Active Video Plugin:                                      Glide64
Video Resolution (not required, but preferred):  800x600

Glide64 Settings:

Autodetect Microcode (check)
Motion Blur (check)

Do not check anything else.

Make sure ALL of these settings are correct BEFORE you start your movie. You will not be able to change the settings after you start your movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0UJpWAhick TASK 2 IS UP

Task 3 is here: http://imgur.com/J8K7NCe (yes, longshot is allowed)

This will be due on July 20, 2015.

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT FOR BIZHAWK PEOPLE:

Since I have had trouble with almost every person's movie who used BizHawk, I'm going to ask that we all use the same exact settings for this task so that I don't have problems loading it.

Please make sure your settings are as follows:

Core Type:                                                  Pure Interpreter
Rsp Plugin:                                                  Hle
Active Video Plugin:                                      Glide64
Video Resolution (not required, but preferred):  800x600

Glide64 Settings:

Autodetect Microcode (check)
Motion Blur (check)

Do not check anything else.

Make sure ALL of these settings are correct BEFORE you start your movie. You will not be able to change the settings after you start your movie.

Savestates:

We decided to let you have a little fun this time and choose which color of gauntlets you want since you will need strength to lift the rock; there are 6 different colors.

BizHawk states:

Silver: https://www.mediafire.com/?qwkfmdsk8638xwp
Gold: https://www.mediafire.com/?v1mdoww76foy2uq
Black: http://www.mediafire.com/?738840pcvzv3s6n
Green: http://www.mediafire.com/?igxln3fl6sralzd
Blue: http://www.mediafire.com/?bxbgbx4bj6c6tdz
Bronze: http://www.mediafire.com/?v3a31edju1s378w

Mupen states:

Silver: http://www.mediafire.com/?1abfd1aw92n6lin
Gold: http://www.mediafire.com/?cxalj536e2uoe0m
Black: https://www.mediafire.com/?ob5s0w15uma2ja0
Green: https://www.mediafire.com/?599wvm2zw7gaubr
Blue: https://www.mediafire.com/?ra6eu3ldggb5lmo
Bronze: https://www.mediafire.com/?v9vy60h58ib0dp2

I'm really glad I was able to reach the 3rd place for the 2nd task, serious gongratz for your TAS, I'm sure the GS gave you trouble to kill  ;)

Anyway I don't know if I will be able to do the 3rd task (holidays% u_u) but I will try :p

Me, I'm really glad my Nayru's Love strats were OP enough to get it banned this time.

savestates not working for me, so I just recproduced it

are the rocks which are blocking the 50 rupee chest stillt there in the savestate or can i remove them first?
what do I have to look for ?

the rocks are still there in the savestate. i just removed them in the picture to show you the chest. so make sure gerudo valley is untouched

So, Brad and I have decided that we're going to ban BA completely in this task and future tasks, hopefully this won't screw up anyone's plan.

:(

ok its fine then. thanks

ba would still be fun on some tasks, but okay :)

aww i'd still like to see you join though nuptup. Ideas don't always work out as planned in a TAS whether it be man-made restrictions or in-game restrictions.

my plaaaaan...

Well, this is tough, i didn't even know you could void out with the ladder x))

You can also void out with a ground clip but that's far away from the ladder #LilZ

Ok I might have time to do the task actually, so just to be sure, when the TAS is considered as over ? last input or 1st black frame when you void out ?

Amataseru, we will most likely time it to first frame of full black

The compilation is up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si10QhkCQ9k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QKFWqIIVo0

Here is Task 4: http://i.imgur.com/yRZDu4T.png
Must be as adult Link, and you can use the keys if you want

Bizhawk 1.9.4 state: https://www.mediafire.com/?p2z5sagbdmtz866
Mupen state: http://www.mediafire.com/download/msxzt2n78taby9x/Task+4.st

Turn in movies by August 10

Bizhawk users reminder again: Please make sure your settings are as follows:

Core Type:                                                  Pure Interpreter
Rsp Plugin:                                                  Hle
Active Video Plugin:                                      Glide64
Video Resolution (not required, but preferred):  800x600

Glide64 Settings:

Autodetect Microcode (check)
Motion Blur (check)

Seems simple enough for my first TAS :)

Two questions though:

1) Does this have to be done as adult link?

2) Can we use the keys, or do we need to have 4 unused keys?

Adult link, and yes you can use the keys

My question is a bit stupid but... When you say No Biggoron sword, can we use the breakable big sword not broken ?(I forgot the name of this sword)

Giant's knife  ;D tho I don't have the answer to your question...

No, can't use giant's knife.

Is the task supposed to be made at gtg or can we collect keys where we want to?

supposed to be gtg, sorry I wasn't able to reply sooner

sorry. i forgot to specify gtg. something is wrong with me

It would be neat if the next TAS was something child related, since the first 4 have all been adult. I plan on joining the next competition, just started TASing a few days ago but it'll still be fun.  ;D

nick, task 5 will be as child. i think you will all like it. MTA came up with it. i'll post it within the next few days

Does that mean he will take part in the competition ? Kreygasm

Also for people who want to see Task4 check out Eumeus' channel and mine since we were unfortunately only 2 to do it :c

I'm hoping to participate, but I don't know many crazy strats. How long do you usually have to complete the task?

i usually give around 20 days

TASK 4 IS HERE:

Since task 4 was a flop, the next task which I am announcing will also be task 4 (the real one hopefully.)

(https://i.gyazo.com/b29478fb62bf0541d28ffa198ba6ce99.png)

Here is the Mupen savestate link: https://www.mediafire.com/?dvi4eoet4bg3ifo
Here is the BizHawk 1.9.4 savestate link: http://www.mediafire.com/?aw8b7mt4ebseuob

IF YOU ARE USING BIZHAWK: Please make sure your settings are as follows:

Core Type:                                                  Pure Interpreter
Rsp Plugin:                                                  Hle
Active Video Plugin:                                      Glide64
Video Resolution (not required, but preferred):  800x600

Glide64 Settings:

Autodetect Microcode (check)
Motion Blur (check)

Do not check anything else.

Make sure ALL of these settings are correct BEFORE you start your movie. You will not be able to change the settings after you start your movie.

This task will be due September 14, 2015.
If you use BizHawk, please send your bk2 to darbmeister30@gmail.com
If you use Mupen, please send your .m64 AND .st to eumeus14@gmail.com

My entry from this task (too bad there weren't enough entries): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kup5PFODFY