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Title: ganonless route?
Post by: geraggh34 on February 22, 2014, 02:43:07 PM
hi guys, i have currently ran my first any% ganondoor any% no rba no rw, and mst. I've been using tokyboi and runnerguys tutorial videos to help me with the route

does anyone have any ganonless guide/tutorial video i could get a link to?

trying to continue these runs as much as possible and every category :)


Title: Re: ganonless route?
Post by: quo on February 22, 2014, 08:20:31 PM
Is this for 1.0/1.1 or 1.2?


Title: Re: ganonless route?
Post by: geraggh34 on February 22, 2014, 10:00:01 PM
oh bummer, im using wii VC and i dont know the version but i know its not 1.0 not sure about 1.1


Title: Re: ganonless route?
Post by: mzxrules on February 23, 2014, 02:35:23 AM
The VC download is v1.2.


Title: Re: ganonless route?
Post by: Sniping117 on February 23, 2014, 04:15:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ks1hMKB7Ws

I used the most recent route in this run. Although I use more not-beginner friendly tricks, there are easily replaceble


Title: Re: ganonless route?
Post by: geraggh34 on March 09, 2014, 12:21:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ks1hMKB7Ws

I used the most recent route in this run. Although I use more not-beginner friendly tricks, there are easily replaceble

Well great news now I got a new pc and am running 1.0 sorry for this ignorant question but what's the significance of swordless dot skip/ swordless link? Now that I want to do it ZSR is broken >< so I was just going to follow your run.

I know you can dim b and do other odd things I'm just curious. I've been doing an mst run everyday for about 2 weeks now


Title: Re: ganonless route?
Post by: Sniping117 on March 09, 2014, 01:12:54 AM
You mean how to do swordless DoTs?


Title: Re: ganonless route?
Post by: geraggh34 on March 09, 2014, 02:31:20 AM
You mean how to do swordless DoTs?
No not necessarily how to do. I've done it once the frames don't look right when I buffer. But I'm just wondering how being swordless affects this route? This is really the only route I haven't ran so I don't know a whole lot about it.

And I apologize I tried to just go look at the types route on ZSR but it's down

Also an unrelated question. I tried to look it up but the answer I read was vague. Can emulators be used for official runs? For some reason I've been using my 360 controller and I yield better results with my tricks using it which is odd.


Title: Re: ganonless route?
Post by: mzxrules on March 09, 2014, 03:34:46 AM
The Swordless DoT Skip is important for setting up an RBA as an adult. There's a flag that is used to determine if you've ever equipped any sword through the pause screen. If you climb a horse when this flag isn't set, the B item will be converted to a blank item, and blank items into deku sticks (which lets you RBA). I think this method faster than stealing the Fishing Rod since you don't have to get a Hylian Shield or Beans, or deal with the RNG of fishing.


Title: Re: ganonless route?
Post by: geraggh34 on March 09, 2014, 09:29:56 PM
Okay I just tried the Fw route and well my game crashes when trying to kill bongo. Can someone give me a link possibly for the new route by chance? I usually just do dot skip then steal fishing rod. For some reason the frames don't look correct when i try swordless dot skip.

I'm trying to think of a way to kill dodongo without using stick on b In the meantime


Title: Re: ganonless route?
Post by: quo on March 10, 2014, 02:57:00 AM
follow sniping's vid, it's the most up to date.

for king dodongo, you can isg w/ the deku stick and it won't break


Title: Re: ganonless route?
Post by: Jbop on March 10, 2014, 04:44:30 AM
Okay I just tried the Fw route and well my game crashes when trying to kill bongo.

Are you saying using stick on B is crashing your game? That would be odd on VC.


Title: Re: ganonless route?
Post by: geraggh34 on March 10, 2014, 05:33:43 AM
Are you saying using stick on B is crashing your game? That would be odd on VC.
Yep crashes on pj64 using v1.0 but it doesn't crash when I use the deku stick on b on my wii vc. Also I don't know how to get fw on b and I can't find it anywhere.

Maybe I still had deku sticks but i could have sworn I broke them all. I just finished another successful mst so I'm going to try again


Title: Re: ganonless route?
Post by: mzxrules on March 10, 2014, 06:46:21 PM
Bottle Adventure is used to get FW on B, which requires going back and forward in time. I think what they did back then is use the Light Arrow cutscene to trigger the age change, so they RBA'd spirit/shadow medallions, then equip a fish on C while having 13 deku nuts before entering the Temple of Time. From there, you exit/re-enter the Temple of Time, set the Farore's Wind point, and you're set to warp to the credits from DC or DT.


Title: Re: ganonless route?
Post by: geraggh34 on March 11, 2014, 05:21:48 AM
Bottle Adventure is used to get FW on B, which requires going back and forward in time. I think what they did back then is use the Light Arrow cutscene to trigger the age change, so they RBA'd spirit/shadow medallions, then equip a fish on C while having 13 deku nuts before entering the Temple of Time. From there, you exit/re-enter the Temple of Time, set the Farore's Wind point, and you're set to warp to the credits from DC or DT.
oh okay thamks. I kinda screwed myself and RBA'd to LACS. im looking at eyeball frog ww set ups but am looking for info on the route but google is failing me. Ganonless/BA are the only routes I know of I haven't dpne yet


Title: Re: ganonless route?
Post by: Sniping117 on March 11, 2014, 10:35:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39rIro9fsF0

Easy route for Early eyeball frog