MST Route Discussion

[TaylorTotFTW]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t_pwdaxTjc

[Pedalpowertoast]

And uh..how do you get past KZ after jabu?

Was i supposed to set a warp earlier then equip sword, beat jabu, get FF and warp.

[TaylorTotFTW]

Oh after jabu. I thought the back side of him had no collision? If not then just savewarp and go form there.

[Pedalpowertoast]

Oh after jabu. I thought the back side of him had no collision? If not then just savewarp and go form there.

Oh fuck...could you update the route a little. Jabu has collision and ruto is inside him. The only way to pass through KZ is to be adult, then melt KZ and quickly run past him. So are we going with the FW method or saving?

[benstephens1000]

Here's what you do. 
After silver gauntlets, warp back to lost woodths. Then equip sword.  Navi dive to zoras river. TSC past the king,  beat jabu and save was warp. Simple

also I think we should attempt mirror shield early after getting the silver gauntlets.  If the megaflip
is failed then just go inside and get the song. If succeed you have one less iron knuckle to fight.

[TaylorTotFTW]

Fixed the route, we're savewarping. Not sure why I didn't think of that megaflip lol

[Pedalpowertoast]

How the fuck are you planning to go such a distance with a megaflip? That save thing is just annoying. I had some problems with files thats why. Isnt it faster to set a warp before equipping sword, beat jabu, get FW and warp? How long till Tom reveals his amazing hidden timesaver?

[TaylorTotFTW]

Just tried and the megaflip isn't nearly enough distance, I remember poodle getting there somehow but I remembered it was with a superslide. I'm not sure that the warp stays if you re-equip sword, and even if it does it would not be faster to warp anyway, the cutscene is a decent amount of time.

Come on already Tom 

[Pedalpowertoast]

It could work with Toms restricted item warp route thing, but...yeah probably not.
Why does it take so long to record or tell a time saver..hmm..we might be missing something here..how bout we try to find it ourself, we might find other tricks too

[benstephens1000]

I think I heard one that it wasn't possible to megaflip onto the hand platform, but it is possible to flip onto a seam on the desert colossus and could walk up it to the chest. This could be false, but I definitely remember something of the sort.

[Pedalpowertoast]

Its possible to walk on the seam but you forgot the most important part, hookshotting to the chest.

[Norkix]

Tom is not working on a time saver. That is all I will say. It's a surprise after all ^_^

[gamestabled]

Guys PLEASE try to keep this thread to "MST Route Discussion". This isn't twitter and we dont need constant updates on every thought you have and move you do. There is a question and answer thread if you need it.

Anyways, it seems as if it is impossible to wrong warp without crashing in this version if you dont warp to a cutscene.

So I propose this:

Any% route up to magic
Place farores wind at Links house->Kokiri
Complete deku tree
Wrong warp from deku to sarias song cutscene (second time viewing, but much shorter than emerald cutscene)
Return to warp point
Place farores at Kokiri ->Lost woods
Complete second half of dc
Wrong warp to silver gauntlets cutscene, get gaunts and requiem
Return to warp point, replace warp
Equip sword, navi dive to zoras river
TSC past king zora
Jabu
Get the real farores wind
Return to warp point, make way to zelda escape cutscene
Master Sword

Thoughts?

[Pedalpowertoast]

Sorry GS..that route looks awesome, cant wait to try it. And no save KZ escaping too. Wow. For what are we gonna use real FW? RI warping...fuuuuu.

[gamestabled]

For what are we gonna use real FW? RI warping...fuuuuu.

Not necessarily, just having farores would save time in basically all the adult dungeons, assuming you have the magic for it. And overworld travelling too.