New user + non-BA run

[TimpZ]

Hello everyone at ZSR!

I picked up OoT for the first time in a couple of years about 4 months ago when I got it on VC. I came across some speedruns and glitches and here I am after finishing the über challenge. I've also begun having a lot of fun with the various glitches trying to play the game backwards and playing adult temples as child and vice versa.

The thing is that I'd probably would like to do a run of some kind sometime in the future, but I don't like the whole Bottle Adventure bit with the new speedruns. Therefore I ask if it would be interesting for you to try and evolve and beat Speedrunnerguys old non-BA run?

Also, which are the "preferred" version? I got access to all three (I could probably loan a GC one) although Link can barely run at all on my old N64 because of the controller...


Looking forward to having some more fun with this game .


PS: While I'm at it: Is there a way to cancel a dive mid air?

[ZFG]

All 3 versions have their own advantages and disadvantages which make them mostly equal, so most people choose based on controller preference.  If you have a bad N64 controller than its probably best to go with VC or GC versions (in this case, VC would be a little better because GC takes slightly longer to pause, but if its the only one you have access to that's fine).

As for no RBA runs, there's 3 main no RBA types: 2 dungeon which is dot skip, beat shadow and spirit, 5 dungeon which is no dot skip, must beat child dungeons + shadow and spirit(this is runnerguys old run you mentioned), and all dungeons/MST, which as it sounds like, means all dungeons and cannot skip ganons castles trials.

The original 5 dungeon would probably be best for a beginner like you as it doesn't have too many hard tricks, though if you feel confident at tricks like bombchus from bottom of the well and DoT skip, then you might want to try 2 dungeon.  MST is a bit harder because obviously it has the most to do, and doing fire and water temple (the 2 dungeons exclusive to this category) fast is a bit harder than other dungeons, however, its probably the fastest skill building category because it should give you practice with tons of tricks throughout the game.

As for a way to concel a dive: unfortunately no.  It would be a great trick for gerudo bridge though.

[TimpZ]

7I think you misunderstood. It's the VC-version I have access to right now.

I know there are 2 types of non-BA/RBA runs to be made, but since I havn't seen any hosted neither here or on SDA I was wondering if it wasn't an accepted category.


And for the dive, I've been trying to make up an easy way to jump the gerudo bridge because the ISG hookshot doesn't work for me. Lnk gets stuck in Z-mode and can't turn when I'm on the pole for some reason...

[ZFG]

If you have the VC version then you should stick to that.

The only non RBA run accepted at SDA is MST, however we do plan on hosting 2 and 5 dungeon runs here on ZSR.  I'm currently working on an MST run and doing some 2 dungeon no RBA on the side.

Here's a tip for if you get stuck on the pole: Press Z and R and try to roll.  Then try to hold the control stick slightly down left, but make sure the A button still says attack and not jump.  Press a to try to roll and you should roll sideways.  Right when the sideroll is about to end, try holding down right all the way and press A to do a sideflip, which should get you back on the bridge.  Unfortunately for now that's the easiest way to get across the bridge without epona or longshot.

[qwerty1605]

I have trouble with ISG bridge skip too. Is there any way to not get stuck?

[Runnerguy2489]

Just wanted to say I would be interested in seeing non-RBA runs, segmented or RTA or single segment, 2 dungeon or no DoT skip. Doesn't really matter, any run is cool to me. My segmented run can definitely be beat with new tricks and strats, and simply some better gameplay too. Would be interested to see how much time could be improved off it.

[mzxrules]

Who the hell is Speedrunnerguy?

[RingRush]

Apparently the evolution of Runnerguy2489. I think you need to give him a Bomb-Hover-To-The-Moon Stone.

Also no-RBA makes much more sense than 5 dungeon...DoT skip and Shadow early are both standard tricks (as opposed to memory corruption) and allowing one while not the other is a bit strange. If you couldn't tell, I personally would much rather see a no-RBA than a 5 dungeon run.

If you want to do a segmented run, another run that would be cool is MST segged. If you are interested in this, I can go ahead and write the new route (probably w/ ZFG) for you. Unlike 2/5 dungoen, MST segmented would be allowed on SDA (and ZSR).

[TimpZ]

mzxrulez: I meant Runnerguy2489, I just left out the numbers 'cause I don't remember them in my head. But I mistakingly put "speed" in there. I'm truly sorry  .


In any case, I appreciate the offer of having the run written for me, but I think it would be fun to try it on my own first and then ask for your opinions. (Since I'm fairly new to this and google isn't my friend, what is a MST-run?)

But I probably won't have any time to focus on it for a month or two anyways because of my studies...

[UchihaSasuke]

i also want to see a no-RBA run (2 dungeons)

5 dungeons seems too arbitrary. we should have no child dungeons/all adult dungeons if that category is valid.

[qwerty1605]

mzxrulez: I meant Runnerguy2489, I just left out the numbers 'cause I don't remember them in my head. But I mistakingly put "speed" in there. I'm truly sorry  .


In any case, I appreciate the offer of having the run written for me, but I think it would be fun to try it on my own first and then ask for your opinions. (Since I'm fairly new to this and google isn't my friend, what is a MST-run?)

But I probably won't have any time to focus on it for a month or two anyways because of my studies...

It is Medallions Stones Trials. Or all dungeons with no trials skip.