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Since we are racking up the impromptu results, it seems like a leaderboard might not be a bad idea.

Here was how I was thinking of scoring it:

-forfeits get you 0 points.
-finishers get increasing points based on the number of entrants

Example:

There are 5 people in an impromptu race. 3 people have finished, two people quit.
1st place: 5 points
2nd place: 4 points
3rd place: 3 points
4th place: 0 points (this person quit)
5th place: 0 points (this person quit)

Totals from all the impromptus would be added and then an overall leaderboard would be done.

This does not have to be the point system, feel free to discuss other systems. I just liked it because it awards points based on how many people you beat, and encourages people to actually finish to get points.

The only problem I see with this system is that it's based on the number of entrants, which is essentially random. If sixteen people show up to do an easy goal, then the first place winner earns 16 points; if only seven show up for a hard goal, then the winner only earns 7 points. Of course, "hard" and "easy" are relative standards, so it would be impossible to formulate a scoring system based on them.

Edit: Using Runnerguy's scoring system, I've mocked up the MM leaderboard

1st	Jiano	39 points
2nd	keeta	35 points
3rd	Elminster	25 points
4th	Siglemic	21 points
5th	AniMeowzerz	20 points
6th	Zero	19 points
7th	MrGrunz	17 points
8th	ZFG	15 points
9th	Runnerguy2489	12 points
10th	SD2	7 points
11th	darkeye14	5 points
12th	Aki	0 points
12th	aleckermit	0 points
12th	Bobemmo	0 points
12th	CaptainX	0 points
12th	Cosmo	0 points
12th	GlitchesAndStuff	0 points
12th	ingx24	0 points
12th	Kostya	0 points
12th	Venick409	0 points
12th	Will0	0 points

I like where that is going, I wanna see the OoT one now! :)

good work darkeye

btw I definitely forfeit once, but I'm not on the list for MM? lol IDK if 0 pointers should even be on the list but yea

The OoT one will take a long time, considering many more people participate and there are more races. I'm working on it at the moment, though.

You didn't show up on any of the results, so I didn't include you. And I kind of agree with removing the zero-pointers; I just wanted the list to be comprehensive.

Actually I kinda like the 0-pointers, the list would look sort of empty without the fallen names of those who ragequit

I was in impromptu "5.75" lol so I guess thats why I wasn't included
http://forums.zeldaspeedruns.com/index.php?topic=238.0

Should I include Impromptu 5.75 in the MM results? It sounds to me like it wasn't that well advertised. I included them because the results didn't change the placement of people on the board at all. Scroll up to see the new board. The OoT board is nearly done, by the way.

The OoT board is done! Note that this includes Grunz's uncertain 1st place finish in the recent impromptu. If Pokey DQ's Grunz, I will change the results accordingly.

1st	Jiano	74 points
2nd	Runnerguy2489	57 points
3rd	ZFG	54 points
4th	Mp16	36 points
5th	MrGrunz	35 points
6th	maxx	31 points
7th	AniMeowzerz	27 points
8th	Pokey	18 points
8th	ssbmproHRC	18 points
10th	Elminster	14 points
11th	ingx24	13 points
12th	Venick409	11 points
13th	Blizz	10 points
14th	ice	9 points
15th	coolkid	8 points
15th	SD2	8 points
17th	Siglemic	7 points
18th	Zero	6 points
19th	Cosmo	5 points
20th	aleckermit	4 points
21st	Aki	0 points
21st	Cerpin_Taxt	0 points
21st	darkeye14	0 points
21st	DJS	0 points
21st	GlitchesAndStuff	0 points
21st	Jer	0 points
21st	keeta	0 points
21st	Legender	0 points
21st	Librari	0 points
21st	Pirgah	0 points
21st	remen11	0 points
21st	Tompa	0 points
21st	unreal	0 points
21st	will0	0 points

Edit: Fixed a numbering issue with tied scores

awesome list darkeye. I need to step my game up. I would also like to see a list like this for the OoT Races and MM Races (though you don't have to make the chart, I might do it myself later. the results are stored in RBABot)

Also a more proper way to do ties is like this:

1st
2nd
3rd
3rd
5th (not 4th)

I'll make the boards for the races tomorrow morning. It will probably take a long while, as there's tons of races to sift through.

Edit: Turns out I finished it tonight. Here is the board for OoT. There's only one MM race saved to racehist, so I didn't make a board.

1st	Runnerguy2489	50 points
2nd	Jiano	41 points
3rd	Cosmo	25 points
3rd	Zero	25 points
5th	Pokey	12 points
6th	Siglemic	10 points
7th	aleckermit	9 points
8th	Elminster	7 points
8th	MrGrunz	7 points
8th	ZFG	7 points
11th	AniMeowzerz	3 points
12th	ingx24	2 points
13th	katee	0 points
13th	Mp16	0 points
13th	remen11	0 points
13th	SD2	0 points

Big Question: Jiano and Sig were angry because the current scoring system gave too many points to people who got, say, 5th place in a 15-person race. They wanted the majority of points to be rewarded to the top three positions. Here's the system I devised to remedy this:

First place: Number of entrants
Second place: Points awarded to first place minus one
Third place: Points awarded to second place minus two
Fourth place: Points awarded to third place minus three
The pattern continues until we reach one point.

The question is, do you like this system? Or do you have another solution?

IMO the current system is pretty good
except I would lower the points given by 1

so

in a 4 person race
1st would get 3 points, for placing in front of 3 people
2nd would get 2 points, for placing in front of 2 people
etc

that way, you can look at your point total as the total # of kids you beat up. LOL  8)

HA I TOLD YOU I FINISHED RACES BEFORE :3

anyway this seems like a nice idea, should encourage more finishes in races.

lol i didnt finish a single oot race

good shit

i know i finish an oot race it was me pokey and elm racing

Remen, though I don't doubt that you finished a race, it didn't show up on racehist; I have no way of confirming your placement, so the race doesn't count. In the future, whenever you run a race, make sure the results are saved in the IRC.

To appease people like Jiano and Sig, who want the highest placers rewarded, I recalculated the results using the same system we score IL's with: 20/10/5/3/2/1/etc. The new list is neither better nor worse; though some deserving people, like Mp16, are moved to a higher placement, others, like Runnerguy, get downgraded to a much lower placement. In the end, Cosmo and I concluded that there weren't enough races or impromptus to effectively create a scoring system. So get out there and race, goddammit.

You dork. It was a race. NOT AN IMPROMPTU. Impromptu's are official and races arent.

OK here's the real shit

I used ELO format. This is the most legit thing ever

OoT (races and impromptus):

Jiano       - 1314
Runnerguy   - 1250
maxx        - 1202
ZFG         - 1131
Mp16        - 1121
icebreaker  - 1066
ssbmproHRC  - 1038
Cosmo       - 1037
Elminster   - 1024
Kazooie     -  995
AniMeowzerz -  991
Zero        -  983
Librari     -  982
coolkid     -  976
Cerpin_Taxt -  975
DJS         -  975
HaruAki     -  975
Legender    -  975
Tompa       -  975
MrGrunz     -  972
SD2         -  972
Pokey       -  968
Will0       -  963
Blizzerk    -  942
Siglemic    -  927
Venick      -  922
darkeye14   -  914
ingx24      -  906
Jer         -  893
unreal      -  893
remen11     -  875
Glitches&S  -  869
aleckermit  -  844
Keeta       -  834

LAST PLACE FUCK YEAH