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Offline thundrio

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OoT3D: Trick Research and Discovery Thread
« on: June 15, 2011, 08:59:23 AM »
since this is coming out, i thought there should be a centralized place where everyone posts on whether certain tricks work or not. i made this a while ago so the list is outdated, but anyone can edit it. there is a column to the right where you can put a yes/no on whether or not an oot glitch works or not. try to also make a post here about what glitches are tested because if i see some semi obvious trolling going on (look at a revision and see 30+ glitches posted as a yes/no at once) i will go back to the last revision.



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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2011, 09:27:51 AM »
I think that list could be streamlined a bit. If you know ISG and SS don't work then you know a bunch of these instances where it applies won't work.
Things that aren't hovering go in the other topic.

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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2011, 09:30:26 AM »
well i wasnt really trying to create a list that was good for checking oot 3D glitches, at the time i wanted to just create a compilation of every single trick possible in oot.
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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2011, 09:35:42 AM »
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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2011, 10:33:23 AM »
I've been trying to do the recent Aqua escape trick but it's hard to say if it works or not. At the very least IF it does work, timing & distance near the edge for calling Navi is much more strict than console version.

tl:dr I don't think it's possible but then again it might be more strict in terms of success than console.

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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2011, 10:38:21 AM »
Does bottle dupe work? The kind where you pause mid swing? I want a bottle over Iron Boots.
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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2011, 10:52:22 AM »
Haven't got that far yet but Gohma first cycle is possible.

Stun
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- Broken Stick glitch -> Normal Stick Slashes on her 4-5 times til she dies.
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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2011, 10:57:25 AM »
Haven't got that far yet but Gohma first cycle is possible.

Stun
- Jump attack from stick
- Broken Stick glitch -> Normal Stick Slashes on her 4-5 times til she dies.
Yep, I agree. It's strange, does deku stick remain in Link's hand when jumpslashing ghoma on N64?


Maybe another angle will work for BotW early. Or even a cosmo escape style dive. ^^
You can still quick regrab vines, so there may be skulltulla clip...

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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2011, 11:01:49 AM »
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does deku stick remain in Link's hand when jumpslashing ghoma on N64?

It might have happened to me once on a casual playthrough on the console version. So yeah.

Also the sword -> stick -> sword while backwalking does work, and if players have decent execution, you could skip the owl.

Edit:

The hidden archery minigame door in Child's Kakariko Village is still there.

Edit 2:

Bottle Switching to replace (useless) item does not work. If you touch the items tab there is a small frame window where you can use an item before the menu pops up but here is the problem:

Items Tab touched and use bottle swing before menu = Item menu ignored
Bottle swing followed by touch Items Tab = Item menu ignored (the touch screen doesn't animate when touching a tab during a bottle swing).
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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2011, 01:33:50 PM »
SUPERSLIIIIIDE!!!!!
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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2011, 04:07:04 PM »
Petition to name that the "Bombslide"

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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2011, 09:20:32 PM »
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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2011, 11:15:19 PM »
B1 skip in deku:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjNq0ZHr2iA

Death moutain trail piece of heart early:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq9N9dOvwDI

Angle changing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcSv38ExLK

Since megaflip works, we could skip a bit of Jabu's belly if we manage to get ruto throw. I didn't tested it and I can't since I've finished Jabu.
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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2011, 02:16:23 AM »
Steal the rod: Any version method
- When Link dives in the water right next to the land, pixels before he stands on it, there is a small chance that he does not come back up like normal and is in mid-air for a few frames (similar to console) but I never got the rod to work in mid-air. I'm not sure if this is a tweak similar to Ocarina Items where you can't use bottles during a backflip.

Golden Scale as kid:
Does not work. I did the method as shown on the console version and Link gets a piece of heart instead. What's more interesting that when swimming with the shield, he does not look down but looks ahead.
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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2011, 03:19:24 AM »
Hi! I also got this game now and I also did megaflip B1 skip in deku tree. I just got that game. I uploaded that video to youtube anyway if it's even old now. I hope this game turn out great!!

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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2011, 05:21:58 AM »
That reminds me. People on IRC already knows this but I got a text dive from a lonely Goron on the top platform in Goron city. So in theory Navi dive should work, but from my opinion it's pretty strict on both spacing and timing.
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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2011, 07:43:44 AM »
This game prevents me from studying!

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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2011, 08:32:46 AM »
for the megaflip->slide do you still only have 1 frame to release the z target or is there a big window

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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2011, 08:47:06 AM »
Lol this game is getting destroyed all ready
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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2011, 09:35:57 AM »
I got the fish in the bottle to interupt Forest Temple Poes cutscene recorded along with high quality footage of Bombslide and Megaflips.
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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2011, 09:40:55 AM »
for the megaflip->slide do you still only have 1 frame to release the z target or is there a big window
I did it pretty easily, I don't think there's a 1 frame window.

Some new vids:
Really strange stuff:
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FHESS up slope:
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Wait for ssbmproHRC:
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Poe cutscene skip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjOwuHEUmdQ

Forest temple megaflip:
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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2011, 11:04:07 AM »
Forest Temple Poe cutscene trick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erbDIXifivA

Bombslide (high quality confirmation video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI6elHBWuUg

Megaflip (high quality confirmation video)
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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2011, 11:39:45 AM »
Is it Sunday yet?

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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2011, 12:08:58 PM »
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I keep uploading stuff when i get further in the game. Also great videos MajoraMIM!!! :D
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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2011, 01:24:10 AM »
Nice videos Kazooie.

I've done the Forest Temple and Phantom Ganon 2nd phase takes 3 cycles to kill him, 2x Master Sword Jump Attacks per cycle. The loss on this version isn't as bad as King Dodongo because the Phantom becomes vulnerable to attacks much sooner.
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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2011, 05:36:13 AM »
I would assume that these are confirmation of the remake utilizing the old Ocarina of Time engine, sans bug fixes?

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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2011, 08:14:18 AM »
cucco dive still works
bottom of the well early does not, the entry is blocked

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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2011, 09:14:06 AM »
cucco dive still works
bottom of the well early does not, the entry is blocked

We know

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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2011, 09:40:10 AM »
I'm quite far in this game now. Almost have done water temple now. I didn't make video of every little detail because they are same than on normal oot. Here is some things what I have tested. Some other little things but it's not listed in here, only main ones.

1. Presure jump works when doing trade quest.

2. Waterfall cuccojump to zora's domain doesn't work because invisible wall is now along with the wall so it's impossible now.

3. Sidehop and megaflip past flamewall in fire temple works just like in the old one. Small key skip for fire temple because of that.

4. When you melt king zora you can walk through of him when he is melting. Just like in normal oot.

I also did made couple videos of some tricks: (Here is all my 3ds oot videos)

Megaflip to skip B1 in deku tree:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9Oo12_vS9I

Quick grab and jumpslash recoil:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62ABiuNVujg

Megaflip and weirdslide:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs_TkIAWuPQ

Bomb jump:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d27fIBjZdhw

Minuet of forest skip: (this also works with bolero of fire like in n64 oot)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzHSHWeX7VE

Crater heart piece early:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SZohd6vzC8

Spell dive and water temple small key early:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJqCyRDuD7E

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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2011, 10:20:48 AM »
Has anyone attempted Navi Aquascape yet?

Lets also hope the other versions of the game have more glitches, you never know.

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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2011, 10:28:19 AM »
I've tried it many times and link doesn't backstep that much than on n64 version of the game. So it might be possible but timing is hell. That is all what I know.

Normal forest escape I have almost got with crouch stab. I have half way inside of mido but link will be pushed back. Maybe right angle or something.
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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2011, 10:56:21 AM »
I've done the Forest Temple and Phantom Ganon 2nd phase takes 3 cycles to kill him, 2x Master Sword Jump Attacks per cycle. The loss on this version isn't as bad as King Dodongo because the Phantom becomes vulnerable to attacks much sooner.

You can beat him in 2 cycles. Keep close to him, hit fireball back at him at Jump Slash range, jump slash immediately to hit him as he falls, but before he touches ground. If you did that right, you bounce back a bit. Mash out two more Jump Attacks, and they will land (you'll be perfectly aligned so you won't slide left/right/behind him after jump attack animation). Just did this on boss rush mode.

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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2011, 12:04:05 PM »
Ganon's Castle early!!! Have fun!! Hoverslide also confirmed in this game!

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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2011, 12:17:18 PM »
Did you... just do a Gainer in that video?

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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #35 on: June 17, 2011, 12:19:52 PM »
I did normal backflip from hoverslide what goes forward just like in normal oot :)

EDIT:
Added trials skip here as well:
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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2011, 12:57:31 PM »
lolol the trials aren't meant to be played outside MST by the game's law.

it looks like the devs only paid attention to the most popular glitches like ISG.
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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2011, 01:08:59 PM »
I really hope silver block skip is impossible, so that Golden Gauntlets early will be part of the any% route  ;D

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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #38 on: June 17, 2011, 01:15:55 PM »
well silver block skip + getting to spirit as child have to be impossible. if we could, then wouldnt we just go to child spirit and get silver gaunts+chus?
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Re: Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D Trick (Re)Discovery/Research Thread
« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2011, 01:24:04 PM »
Spirit chus early and silver block skip are 2 very different things