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Offline Shy Ranger

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Faster Garo Master on Any%
« on: March 24, 2011, 08:56:31 AM »
I'm not sure if this idea has been suggested, so if it has, my apologies.

Anyway, on all the fast runs of the any%, I notice that Garo Master is done pretty slowly, mostly because Deku Nuts are not in that area. However, I noticed, while watching the 100% Speed Run, that Deku Nuts can easily be found in the first room of the Secret Shrine, in some grass to the left of the Light Arrow door.

You use Zora to swim down the river anyway (in order to go to the Swamp), so perhaps quickly going to the Shrine to stock up on some Nuts would be worth it to make Garo Master a lot faster.

Sadly I can't really record, so I can't prove if this will truly save time. so if anyone is curious to help me out, I would appreciate it.

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Re: Faster Garo Master on Any%
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2011, 05:17:39 PM »
Deku nuts have to be duped later on so you can't get deku nuts this way. Even if you were to get deku nuts later after using the duped deku nut bottle, I don't think it would be worth it.
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Re: Faster Garo Master on Any%
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2011, 05:23:35 PM »
Are you sure they HAVE to be duped over. I always though they were just duped over because of the previous assumption that they couldn't be used well again.

Plus, the runs go to the Curiousity Shop during night of the first day, so there's always Dremen Mask

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Re: Faster Garo Master on Any%
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2011, 05:53:52 PM »
They don't have to be duped over. However, if you don't dupe, you'll have to get another item to take it's place, since you need 4 bottles to efficiently get Zora Eggs.
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Re: Faster Garo Master on Any%
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2011, 07:42:33 PM »
Okay, well what about Bremen Mask, the run goes to the Curiousity Shop at night anyway. But that might be cutting into time. HOpefully someone can help me test out time.

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Re: Faster Garo Master on Any%
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2011, 10:12:18 PM »
Okay, well what about Bremen Mask, the run goes to the Curiousity Shop at night anyway. But that might be cutting into time. HOpefully someone can help me test out time.
Usually, when Bremen Mask is gotten as a bottle dupe substitute, its to keep deku sticks rather than nuts as they save more time.
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Re: Faster Garo Master on Any%
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2011, 11:34:12 AM »
Actually bremen mask was only used before so you could keep deku mask

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Re: Faster Garo Master on Any%
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2011, 02:00:32 PM »
I actually meant the TAS, because grunz is getting bremen to keep sticks.
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Re: Faster Garo Master on Any%
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2011, 10:18:18 PM »
Right, but in the any%, using Deku Nuts would make Garo Master so fast, so save them instead of Deku Sticks, so Dupe Bremen Mask.

The any% goes to the shop AFTER Woodfall Temple, meaning sticks wouldn't need to be saved at all.

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Re: Faster Garo Master on Any%
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2011, 05:37:57 AM »
Yeah you could dupe over bremen mask instead of deku nuts, if the time gained by the garo master battle is more than the time lost by getting the mask. Don't know if it is, though. Somebody would have to test.

The TAS ofcourse gets nuts back from the palm tree. Segmented might be able to do the same. But that is a murder segment as it is.
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