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Re: Bottle Dupe Info URGENT!
« Reply #80 on: January 12, 2011, 07:22:08 PM »
Oh....ok i will next time....so i just play the song of time and go back to the swamp like at the beginning? mmm....thats what i thought. T_T

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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #81 on: January 12, 2011, 07:34:05 PM »
Oh and....if i new how to do it....i probobly could.....

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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #82 on: January 12, 2011, 08:03:25 PM »
kk thanks :D

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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #83 on: January 13, 2011, 05:47:24 AM »
i Have a question. couldn't you just gainer up to clock tower when doing the moons tear skip? its faster by afew seconds...i think it would help....i tried it myself and found that when i did the backflip in one try and the gainer in one try, that the gainer beats the backflip by 2-3-4 seconds depending on the person

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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #84 on: January 13, 2011, 06:19:12 AM »
i Have a question. couldn't you just gainer up to clock tower when doing the moons tear skip? its faster by afew seconds...i think it would help....i tried it myself and found that when i did the backflip in one try and the gainer in one try, that the gainer beats the backflip by 2-3-4 seconds depending on the person
Ya, most people do gainers now, but since you still have to wait for midnight it doesn't make much of a difference.
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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #85 on: January 13, 2011, 11:20:10 AM »
Ya, most people do gainers now, but since you still have to wait for midnight it doesn't make much of a difference.
no say you wanted to get in as soon as possible and it hit 12 a lil faster than you expected...and u needed to get up quicker...

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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #86 on: January 13, 2011, 11:26:54 AM »
no say you wanted to get in as soon as possible and it hit 12 a lil faster than you expected...and u needed to get up quicker...

That shouldn't happen in a run. If you aren't up there before 12 pm, then you lost time somewhere else and need more practice.
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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #87 on: January 13, 2011, 05:52:11 PM »
Ya, most people do gainers now, but since you still have to wait for midnight it doesn't make any difference.

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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #88 on: January 14, 2011, 03:26:57 PM »
I have another question....can u get the mirror shield early? i cant get the gibdo mask so i cant do the well...i gainer'd the ikana castle entrance by the gate....and i thought just like if the game teles u on the other side of objects (like sakons hideout) it would prob do this too....so i went in the well and i saw the sun block....theres where i got pissed....i kno u can do the gibdo mask early glitch....but....if u can avoid that...plz explain. i will also be on the irc relay chat....Thanks! :D
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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #89 on: January 14, 2011, 03:33:45 PM »
I have another question....can u get the mirror shield early? i cant get the gibdo mask so i cant do the well...i gainer'd the ikana castle entrance by the gate....and i thought just like if the game teles u on the other side of objects (like sakons hideout) it would prob do this too....so i went in the well and i saw the sun block....theres where i got pissed....i kno u cant do the gibdo mask early glitch....but....if u can avoid that...plz explain. i will also be on the irc relay chat....Thanks! :D

The mirror shield is skipped in the Any%... so I guess you could just get the Light Arrows and use those to get the Mirror Shield without having to go through the well.
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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #90 on: February 12, 2011, 12:11:18 PM »
So I'm new to zelda running, and I'm having trouble with timing superslides. Do you guys have any tips for getting a good success rate, or is it just a lot of practice?

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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #91 on: February 12, 2011, 12:43:35 PM »
So I'm new to zelda running, and I'm having trouble with timing superslides. Do you guys have any tips for getting a good success rate, or is it just a lot of practice?
Though practice does help the most there are a few tips. If doing a backflip to drop the bomb, hold back while preforming the backflip. This will keep you from being too close to the bomb where the "grab" icon is present. Roll just a bit after the bomb's flashing begins to speed up and double tap, of mash, "A" a few times to insure that Link attempts to grab the bomb after rolling. Practicing with two bombs instead of one can also help with timing. Practice is the best way.
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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #92 on: February 15, 2011, 09:03:20 AM »
So I'm new to zelda running, and I'm having trouble with timing superslides. Do you guys have any tips for getting a good success rate, or is it just a lot of practice?
First thing first, never listen to razor. Ever.

Now that that's out of the way, superslides do take practice, but they are easy to do once you know how; you have a 12 input frame window which is pretty substantial.
Don't bother learning a standing superslide, it's pointless. To start, try a backwalk superslide. Simply backwalk and pull out a bomb, shield while still backwalking after the fourth flash, then hold forward and mash A (Keep Z held the entire time (or L on Gamecube)).

That said, supersliding isn't as important as hovering, you should master that first.
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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #93 on: February 17, 2011, 02:43:03 PM »
ok, where am I supposed to aim the zora long jump if I'm going to wrong warp in the fairy fountain?

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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #95 on: March 19, 2011, 11:06:57 PM »
SO I've been trying to mash for 70 chus at the shop but I never get it. What mashing techniques are the pros using?

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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #96 on: April 18, 2011, 01:15:20 PM »
I am having trouble with the 12 explosives Great Bay Temple Boss Key Skip. Does anyone have a video of this method?

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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #97 on: April 18, 2011, 01:36:32 PM »
12 explosive method is pretty useless; you should try using the new(ish) 8 explosive method that kyoki found: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfG6DspgNkk&feature=channel_video_title

It's faster and easier than pretty much any other method. Just sidehop and hold back after the last chu hover, then hold up-right when you land in the water. There's also a 5 explosive method but that's a bit more difficult and not worth it outside of a segmented run IMO.
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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #98 on: April 19, 2011, 05:37:38 PM »
How can I get good at no pause buffer megaflips? For the people that seem to be consistent with them, (ing or pokey or anyone else that is) do you guys like count seconds or something after you use a bomb? It seems near impossible to time a roll at between the 6th and 7th flash. Then I hear there is also someway they can crash your game, how to I prevent this from happening?
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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #99 on: April 19, 2011, 05:45:01 PM »
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what the hell is so appealing about megaflips

i will never understand why everyone wants to learn them

learn parts of the actual game first, those techs can come later omg
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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #100 on: April 19, 2011, 05:50:40 PM »
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what the hell is so appealing about megaflips

i will never understand why everyone wants to learn them

learn parts of the actual game first, those techs can come later omg

Maybe people want to learn them so they don't have to make bomb shop trips that aren't needed? I know the parts of the actual game. Just because I made a forum account 20 minutes ago does not mean I am mindless. I just asked a simple question in a question and answer thread and your response was completely unnecessary.
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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #101 on: April 19, 2011, 05:53:34 PM »
You just need to have a feeling of when to roll. I personally use the sound of the bomb to help me time it. If you just practise them you'll get the timing down.

To prevent them from crashing flick your stick forward immediately after you input the backflip.

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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #102 on: April 19, 2011, 05:59:50 PM »
You just need to have a feeling of when to roll. I personally use the sound of the bomb to help me time it. If you just practise them you'll get the timing down.

To prevent them from crashing flick your stick forward immediately after you input the backflip.


Ok, thanks. I'll make sure to try with the bomb sounds.
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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #103 on: April 20, 2011, 03:22:15 PM »
I didn't mean that to be offensive, but considering megaflips hardly ever cut bomb shop trips, I was saying there's really no reason to learn them.

As for learning the game, I mean, how and where to get X heart piece, the route to get the skulltulas in the spider houses, etc.

i highly doubt anyone has this completely perfected, so you can't just write it off lmao
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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #104 on: April 20, 2011, 03:29:53 PM »
I cut out 2 bomb shop trips and saved ~4 minutes in any% by doing unbuffered megaflips everywhere.

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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #105 on: April 20, 2011, 04:07:29 PM »
of course, that doesn't help any if a) you can do any% in 3 trips, no megaflips b) that only pertains to any%, the rare exception, c) if you mess up a lot (which we all know you did) it's not really all that useful
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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #106 on: April 20, 2011, 05:02:28 PM »
a.) Doing any% in 3 trips no megaflips would be way harder and so much slower that you might as well take the extra 2 trips
b.) I can see a lot of goals where megaflips would be useful in cutting out bomb shop trips (e.g. odolwa's remains)
c.) I only fucked up a few megaflips in stone tower, and it was still faster than taking the bomb shop trip
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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #107 on: April 20, 2011, 05:19:41 PM »
a) i meant however many you used +1, i dont know the number
b) odolwas remains is a really short and dumb goal, but even other woodfall type goals like 100% completion or great spin do not necessarily benefit
c) how many times have you failed woodfall bk skip? or the hover to PF?
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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #108 on: April 21, 2011, 06:46:35 AM »
a.) Doing 4 bomb shop trips no megaflips would be way slower than 3 with megaflips
b.) Megaflips would save time in 100% - doing old school wrong warp with megaflips is way faster than doing zora long jump without
c.) Woodfall BK skip with megaflips is way easier than without IMO, and the hover to PF i've only ever failed because of the retarded fence in the way

Anyway let's just stop arguing about this, if you want to make one more point after this that's fine; I'm done with this discussion.
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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #109 on: April 21, 2011, 09:41:53 AM »
a) "way" as in about a minute or 2, obviously this is only preferred for races
b) for 100% it's faster to just skip bomb bag completely
c) yet you fail it all the time
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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #110 on: June 12, 2011, 12:59:58 AM »
In Kaztalek's 100% route he skips the Deku guards with some Zora clip, I have tried to replicate it, but no luck. Any tips for that?

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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #111 on: June 12, 2011, 03:07:18 AM »
You need to hold Z then hold forward and press b then a and keep hol.ding forward

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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #112 on: June 15, 2011, 02:25:40 PM »
to zora clip you actually dont hold forward at all (although i guess you could)

hold b to take your fins out
while still holding, press Z or L to target (depending on version)
while holding both buttons, press A to jumpslash
keep holding B and you're through

if you talk to the guards it means you're too close
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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #113 on: June 15, 2011, 02:33:58 PM »
I tried without and it didn't work :/

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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #114 on: June 15, 2011, 04:54:22 PM »
holding forward only changes your angle with boomerangs lol

if you just do the jumpslash while holding b as zora, you see him warp forward, you don't have to hold a direction

you are free to hold up if you want, but just know that it has absolutely nothing to do with clipping or helping you clip
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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #115 on: June 16, 2011, 04:34:50 AM »
Oh ok, my mistake was not holding B after the Jump Attack. Thanks a ton. Any tips for grabbing the ledge for Flying Zora? I can get plenty of height off the turtle every time, its just the ledge that kills me.

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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #116 on: June 16, 2011, 09:54:54 AM »
even I have trouble with grabbing the ledge, but my consistency for it isn't bad at all

what I do is when starting the flying zora, go completely straight forward for the entirety of the first swim, then as he starts the next, go left, then after that, do the rest towards the platform

it's actually not that bad, just really hard to explain, even visually.. you need to get a feel for it yourself

if it helps, the swim has to be completely over in order to grab the ledge, if not you hit the wall
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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #117 on: June 16, 2011, 11:15:28 AM »
I have never had issues grabbing the ledge on N64 (although on VC the lag seems to make it way harder for some reason); my only problem is getting off the ground sometimes. For the second "burst" where you hold left, make sure you're holding up-left instead of directly left, otherwise it fucks up the whole thing.
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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #118 on: June 16, 2011, 07:05:10 PM »
heh, today grunz taught me the pro way to do flying zora ledge grab, that never fails ;)

basically as you do my set up, as soon as you start mashing A, swim directly to the right side of the platform (like just one straight line there

at the last swim (you'll know cuz you'll be close to the wall) press b once while it buffers (where he flips before the swim, that entire window) then press A a small bit before you hit the wall

it's really easy, i can get around to making a full tutorial if you like, cuz this is prob the most asked question out there
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Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread
« Reply #119 on: June 16, 2011, 10:05:48 PM »
i can get around to making a full tutorial if you like,

would be cool =]