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Offline FPSJosh01

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Bingo! ALBW-Bingo (Need help/your ideas)
« on: November 26, 2013, 01:43:43 PM »
A Link Between Worlds Bingo

We decided to start with a race file as documented here: http://forums.zeldaspeedruns.com/index.php?topic=1482.0

I have set up Google Docs to accept ideas for ALBW Goals from racefile.  We may also consider doing a long race where we begin from start.

Either way, post up your goal ideas here: http://bit.ly/1exJtdp

Lastly, the final location for bingo will be here: http://bit.ly/17W5P8A

Thank you everyone for your help!

-FPSJosh01

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Re: Bingo! ALBW-Bingo (Need help/your ideas)
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2013, 02:52:06 PM »
I discussed this in the IRC and I think Cloudmax likes this idea.

So anyway I can't see why there shouldn't be Have X Hearts goals on the Bingo board. However, because you end up clearing the first three dungeons in the Lorule file, there should be a special case rule to ban obtaining these heart pieces.

If the bingo Card "rolls" a Have X Hearts goal, the Eastern Palace, Hera Tower, and Tower of Gales Heart Containers cannot be obtained, with one exception. If the bingo card "rolls" a goal to obtain one of these Heart Containers, the previous rule is ignored for that heart container.

To make it easier to see when this rule is in effect, the card should display whether these hearts are banned or not on the side somewhere.
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Re: Bingo! ALBW-Bingo (Need help/your ideas)
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2013, 02:00:47 PM »
Any news on when this'll be ready?

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Re: Bingo! ALBW-Bingo (Need help/your ideas)
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2013, 12:59:33 AM »
http://cloudmodding.com/zelda/albw/bingo?seed=132403

Cloudmax's attempt at a bingo. I don't know why you didn't post this...
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Re: Bingo! ALBW-Bingo (Need help/your ideas)
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2013, 02:04:49 AM »
http://cloudmodding.com/zelda/albw/bingo?seed=132403

Cloudmax's attempt at a bingo. I don't know why you didn't post this...

Because I'm dumb and forget things. But yeah, that's what I've thrown together. It is not supposed to be final or anything. My only goal was to throw enough bingo goals into it to make it actually playable, then have people give me feedback on it to see what needs changing, because it isn't tuned, timed, or anything at all.

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Re: Bingo! ALBW-Bingo (Need help/your ideas)
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2013, 01:31:34 PM »
So we should totally do a Bingo tonight, get like 10+ people and test this thing out. :D

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Re: Bingo! ALBW-Bingo (Need help/your ideas)
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2013, 04:38:14 PM »
I just created a race file for myself, so I'd try to do it whenever it happens :D

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Re: Bingo! ALBW-Bingo (Need help/your ideas)
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2014, 06:14:31 AM »
New bingo is finally up: bombch.us/Zo5
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Re: Bingo! ALBW-Bingo (Need help/your ideas)
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2014, 07:54:04 AM »
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As soon as the race starts, you will create a new file. The first thing you must do before you start completing your goals is get to Lorule. You should use the castle climb and cutscenes as time to plan your route.
That description sounds a bit off. Wouldn't it be better if it was something like "Before the race, you need to setup a speficic file following some guidelines. [Link pastebin with file infos]" ?

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Re: Bingo! ALBW-Bingo (Need help/your ideas)
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2014, 07:41:04 PM »
Here are my ideas:
Desert palace miniboss warp
Knucklemaster heart container
Octorock heart piece
All lost woods maiamais
Skull ore
Treachorous tower level 1 and 2
Desert boss key
All maiamai's in kakariko
level 4 sword
milkman's bottle
beat race brother once
cucoo minigame (haven't decided on amount)
all keys in swamp
power glove (no skip)
Beat the mimics in dark palace for warp
Get all keys in gale
Get hylian shield
All keys in turtle rock
Golden bee
One of every potion from the witch

I understand most of these ideas aren't too good compared to what is currently constructed, but this list was made before I even noticed that.

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Re: Bingo! ALBW-Bingo (Need help/your ideas)
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2014, 08:04:20 PM »
Here are my ideas:
Desert palace miniboss warp
Knucklemaster heart container
Octorock heart piece
All lost woods maiamais
Skull ore
Treachorous tower level 1 and 2
Desert boss key
All maiamai's in kakariko
level 4 sword
milkman's bottle
beat race brother once
cucoo minigame (haven't decided on amount)
all keys in swamp
power glove (no skip)
Beat the mimics in dark palace for warp
Get all keys in gale
Get hylian shield
All keys in turtle rock
Golden bee
One of every potion from the witch

I understand most of these ideas aren't too good compared to what is currently constructed, but this list was made before I even noticed that.

DP warp, will add
Knucklemaster HC, already a thing
Octorok HP, too short imo
All LW mais, all lost woods and skull woods maiamais is a goal...
Skull ore, already a goal iirc
Treacherous, already a thing
DP BK, will add
Kak mais, will add
Level 3? sword, already a thing
Milkman's bottle, might add
Race once, might add "Hyrule Hotfoot HP", seems too short though
Cucco minigame, pls
Swamp keys, can you get all of them w/o using any?
Power glove, you get this in the setup now
Dark Palace warp, might add
Gale keys, no, there's only one you don't get
Hylian Shield, already a thing
Turtle keys, will add
Golden Bee, bee badge is a thing
Potions, each is a thing, one of each seems too long imo

Thanks for the suggestions though :D
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Re: Bingo! ALBW-Bingo (Need help/your ideas)
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2014, 09:52:24 PM »
Palace Chest% Routes

EDIT: Added Eastern, Gales and Hera at the bottom

Feel free to test out and discuss improvements. Haven't checked Desert yet.

Thieves' Hideout


- Get 50 rupees chest in Gargoyle Statues room after placing both statues
- Go two rooms north
- Fall down to B1 on from the right side of the wooden path, get 50 rupees chest
- Dash north and continue regular route until switch near Thief Girl
- Get Compass chest in north cell
- Continue regular route until you lower the water in B3
- Get 100 rupees chest in cell
- Continue regular route until the room after the fans, but get the Monster Guts chest in B2 on the way
- Press both switches and get 100 rupees chest
- Keep going until you're near the Big Key chest
- Take the west door and get the 50 rupees chest
- Get the Big Key chest
- Exit the dungeon or go defeat the boss


Skull Woods

- Use the regular route until you exit the palace for the 2nd time
- Fall into the north hole near the 2 Snap Dragons
- Get 100 rupees and Compass chests
- Take the south door to get back to the dark room
- Continue regular route until you've completed the eye duplication and got the Big Key chest
- Make your way to and get the Master Ore chest
- Exit the palace again with the door south of the room and warp away, or complete it normally



Swamp Palace

- Get Big Key
- West door
- Go to B1
- East door, get compass, come back
- Use raft or Animation Storage to get 20 rupees
- South door, get 300 rupees, come back
- Land on chest to get Monster Guts
- Swampski, grab key, open door
- Lower water, go get Mail, come back, southwest door
- Pull lever, take stairs to 1F
- Switch, raise water twice, get key
- Lower water once, north east door
- West door
- Get Key
- North west door
- South east door
- Get Monster Guts chest

If you don't want to beat Swamp: leave through main door.

If you want to beat Swamp: Bomb panel in the room, fall to B1, unlock door, complete as usual.

Dark Palace

- Bomb the norteast wall, get 5 rupees chest in next room
- Go back to first room
- Continue regular route until you get the Master Ore chest
- Go back into the main 2F room
- Throw a bomb to open the east window, the merge the south wall and make your way right to the Monster Guts chest
- Fall into the void to respawn near the northeast door
- Go 1 room north then 1 room west
- Bomb the southeast panel, fall down to 1F and open the 50 rupees chest
- Fall down from the chest area and dash to reach the room to the west
- Bomb the 2 switches and get the Compass chest
- Dash east twice to reach the eastmost room
- Bomb the south wall, get the 50 rupees chest in the next room and come back to this one
- Fall down and kill the 3 Goriyas
- Go to the south room, put a bomb on the panel in the northeast corner, get the Monster Tail chest and fall down to B1
- Get the Monster Horn chest and exit the room through the southwest door (no need to get the Small Key in the northeast corner)
- Take the northwest door
- Go through the maze, press the switch in the northwest corner, get the Small Key chest in the southwest corner and go back the way you came
- Get the Big Key chest
- Exit the palace or use the Ice Rod to activate the switch and gain access to the boss room and finish it


Ice Ruins

- Activate elevator
- Get 300 rupees chest hidden in south wall between 1F and B1
- Grab key with Hookshot
- Open B1 north door, continue until Penguin Room
- Get Compass chest in area south of Penguin Room
- Get Penguin Room key
- Open B1 southwest door
- Merge on east wall, get 50 rupees chest
- Continue regular route until you reach B4
- Get on block, activate 4 switches at once with a bomb
- Fall into the void to respawn east, get the 100 rupees chest
- Continue regular route until you go up to B3
- Go south 1 screen, position yourself and perform a dash-cancel to land on the chest in B4
- Open the 50 rupees chest, dash left to fall into the void and respawn on B3
- Continue regular until you can get Energy Scroll and get it
- Take elevator back up to B2, merge wall north of doorway
- Make your way to and get the 100 rupees chest
- Make your way back
- continue regular route until you get B4 small key chest
- Go west 1 screen, press switch and get Monster Guts chest
- Take elevator down to B5 and get Big Key chest
- Leave elevator on B3 to get Monster Horn and 1 rupee chests
- Take elevator all the way up to 1F and leave, or finish dungeon using regular route



Turtle Rock

- Reach the 1F main room.
- Tilt the lever platform to have left half up, kill the Flamola north of it
- Dash-cancel to the west bridge, kill the Flamola
- Freeze the lever platform right half up
- Make your way on the bridge to the east wall, kill both Flamolas on the way
- Merge the wall, go right and enter the southeast door
- Take the portal, jump down once and take that other portal
- Merge the wall, go kill all 3 Kodongos, get the 50 rupees chest
- Take the portal southeast of you
- Exit the room southwest, freeze the lever platform bottom half up
- Reach the center area of the room, activate all 4 switches with the Ice Rod, get the Compass chest
- Kill the Flamola north of the area you currently are
- Use the Ice Rod to reach the bridge west of you, kill the last Flamola
- Get the chest that spawned, make your way back to where you killed the last Flamola
- Dash cancel on the lever platform to reach the switch on the bridge north of it
- Go freeze the east lever platform bottom half up, make your way to the east wall
- Merge the wall, go left, get the Small Key, merge again and reach the north door
- Get the 50 rupees chest, fall down, kill the 3 Wizrobes and take the staircase
- Reach the B1 main room, hit the switch to your left
- Go to east wall, bomb the Wizrobe that is up there, enter the northeast room
- Get the key, go back to main room
- Go to west wall, bomb the Wizrobe that is up there
- Freeze the lever platform bottom half up, freeze both lava pillars and kill the Wizrobe
- Merge the wall, go right until you reach the north door
- Enter the room (without bombing the switch), get the Big Key chest and go back out
- Put a bomb down to activate the switch and kill the final Wizrobe
- Merge the wall, wait until the bomb explodes and unmerge to make the bridge fall down
- Walk to the end of the bridge, jump down on the GREY portion of the bridge near the Hylian Shield chest
- Get Hylian Shield, jump into the lava to respawn up on the higher bridge
- Go back to the north wall, fall down to access the middle door and get the 50 rupees chest
- Continue using the regular route, but get the 100 rupees chest that spawns from killing that Wizrobe near the usual skip
- Exit the dungeon or finish it


Desert Palace

-Use the regular route for the first half of the dungeon, grabbing the three chests directly in your path as you go
-After you enter the second half and defeat the tile room miniboss, go west
-Go into the west room
-Head north to grab the chest under the boulder at the end of the room, then use an Armos to tornado rod OoB
-Head one room north while OoB, go around the walls and bomb the block to free the sand
-Drop down, open the chest under the boulder, grab the chest from the dead-end middle exit
-Take the east exit, grab the two chests in this room now that the sand has dropped, exit west
-Go west again from tile room
-Use the sand rod to go north this time, and head into the door on the right
-Grab the chest and head back
-Go west, use sand rod to have beamos hit the switches, enter south door once opened
-Clear the room of enemies to get the chest, head back and proceed to the next floor
-Grab the chest in the room to the west once you get to the next floor, head back
-Go south, use the sand rod to get to the next chest, then armos boost OoB and dash past the boss door
-Take the exit to the south, where you can fly away or enter the portal to fight Zaganaga


Eastern Palace

- Get 100 rupees chest "outside" of the east wall
- Go back to first room, merge to access middle north door
- Shoot the switch on the left, go to the next room
- Merge on the left side of the door you came from, reach the blocked west door and unmerge
- Dash and enter the northwest door
- Kill the Popos, take the southwest door
- Walk around the room and exit north, get the Compass chest
- Fall down, go back to south room using the middle door, get 20 rupees chest
- Go 1 room north and 1 room east, take staircase on north wall
- Go to the east room.
- Kill Popo in northeast corner
- Kill Popo near the switch that opens the south door
- Kill Popo in southeast corner
- Kill last Popo near the chest spawn, get the Monster Guts chest
- Go 2 rooms to the west
- Spawn and get the Monster Guts chest
- Press the southwest switch and exit the room south
- Go merge the south wall and make your way to the blocked east door
- Diagonal shot for the switch to open the door
- Merge the north wall catch up to the platform and unmerge on it
- Use a bomb to activate all 4 switches at once
- Get the Small Key chest and merge the south wall to catch up with that same platform
- Go get the Big Key chest, exit the room the way you came
- Use a bomb to activate the switch that gives you access to the Big Door
- Perform a regular escape until you're back in the first room of the palace
- Take the northwest door and get the 20 rupees chest
- Exit the palace



House Of Gales

- Reach the room at the center of 1F, dash north, light both torches and get the 20 rupees chest
- Take the northeast door, hit the switch and get the Monster Guts chest
- Go back into the main room and make your way to the southwest door
- Merge on the red block and unmerge near the Compass chest
- Merge on the block again, move over to the right, wait for the block to start moving, walk around the wall and unmerge near the stairs
- Go up the stairs and catch the red block's cycle
- Take the east door back to the main room, press the switch to activate the fan and use the Tornado Rod to reach the north part of the room
- Go through the northwest door, then the southwest one, merge the wall and make your way to the 100 rupees chest
- Merge again, reach the area that's east of the chest, dash cancel north and go back to the first room of the dungeon
- Take the green portal
- Take northeast door, dash east to the next room and take the fan up to 3F
- Go through the southwest door, light up both torches and reach the next room
- Fall down, kill the Antifairies and take the northeast door
- Go one more room to the east, get the Small Key chest
- Make your way back to the Antifairies room through the torches room to get the 50 rupees chest
- Go 2 rooms east, fall down to 2F, take the center west door and dash west to reach the miniboss room
- Take the green portal and exit the dungeon



Tower Of Hera


- Press down the springs in the northwest corner to reach the platform, merge the wall and go through the window to get the 50 rupees chest
- Come back in the main room, make your way to 2F and fall in the center hole to get the Compass chest in 1F
- Continue regular route until you reach 7F, but get the 5 rupees chest in 5F on the way
- Break the panels in the northeast corner of 7F, fall down and get the Monster Guts chest
- Continue regular route until you reach the tiles room and kill all the tiles
- Let the elevator go up and jump down to 8F in the hole beneath it
- Get the 50 rupees chest and take the warp back up
- Exit the room south, jump down to reach the 100 rupees chest in 7F
- Merge the wall and go left
- Make your way back to 6F, take the green portal and exit the dungeon
« Last Edit: August 14, 2014, 02:24:35 PM by RheaultWnage »

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Re: Bingo! ALBW-Bingo (Need help/your ideas)
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2014, 05:53:02 PM »
With all the new stuff that's been found, I've made some changes to the item list, adding "Open Ice Ruins Big Door" and "Open Turtle Rock Big Door" goals, with the original goals still existing but being decreased in difficulty (ice significantly, turtle by a little bit).

Bingo does seem kind of dumb now with one of the longest goals (ice) being extremely short (and easy) now.

If anyone has suggestions, post them obviously.

We should also probably redo race files that do gales skip 2.0 and the hera skip (or at least just skipping the miniboss would be enough I think).
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