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TP: Question & Answer / Trick Help
« on: January 23, 2013, 08:31:46 PM »
I've gotten alot of Youtube & Twitch messages asking for help with the same tricks, so post any questions you have related to this game here.

Youtube channels with trick demonstration/tutorials:

http://www.youtube.com/LogitechSDAZ
http://www.youtube.com/Mofat
http://www.youtube.com/ZSRVideos
http://www.youtube.com/ingx32
« Last Edit: April 20, 2013, 03:13:00 PM by Pheenoh »
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Re: TP: Question & Answer / Trick Help
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2013, 04:03:24 AM »
hey you forgot mine D:

http://www.youtube.com/ingx32
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Re: TP: Question & Answer / Trick Help
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2013, 04:41:00 PM »
I have a question about how cutscenes and loading works in TP. When you activate a cutscene, does the area you're in become temporarily and partially unloaded? The reason I am wondering is because while I've been running the Forest Temple, every once in a while after a cutscene has been activated (the kind you can't skip like opening a door or blowing up a bombable wall) if I try to move immediately, I'll hear/see Link do a jump on normally level ground.
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Re: TP: Question & Answer / Trick Help
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2013, 07:57:38 PM »
im not sure, but that may be the case. i suck at speedrunnig TP but im going to get the GCN version soon
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Re: TP: Question & Answer / Trick Help
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2013, 07:05:53 AM »
I have a question about how cutscenes and loading works in TP. When you activate a cutscene, does the area you're in become temporarily and partially unloaded? The reason I am wondering is because while I've been running the Forest Temple, every once in a while after a cutscene has been activated (the kind you can't skip like opening a door or blowing up a bombable wall) if I try to move immediately, I'll hear/see Link do a jump on normally level ground.
You're not talking about the room right before Diababa are you? Because that's link trying to roll and Midna auto stopping him, but the 'sound' of him rolling gets activated.
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Re: TP: Question & Answer / Trick Help
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2013, 02:56:38 PM »
You're not talking about the room right before Diababa are you? Because that's link trying to roll and Midna auto stopping him, but the 'sound' of him rolling gets activated.
No, I've had this happen in the second room of the Forest Temple, on the stairs going to the outside portion for early gale boomerang, and once when I was walking through a door and Link did a weird hop.
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Re: TP: Question & Answer / Trick Help
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2013, 07:05:53 PM »
hmm... it might be that the romm is unloaded and link has to jump to avoid falling oob ???
Edit:would wii be better for 100% because of the walking on cielings without iron boots thing on wii only or am I trippin?
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Re: TP: Question & Answer / Trick Help
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2013, 10:54:15 PM »
No, theres no LJA.
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Re: TP: Question & Answer / Trick Help
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2013, 11:24:30 PM »
ok
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Re: TP: Question & Answer / Trick Help
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2013, 06:27:13 AM »
No, theres no LJA.
There is LJA, you just can't do it off Gale Boomerang because the targeting breaks when the sword is drawn. Regardless, Wii version is still slower for all categories, except probably Goron Mines ILs.
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Re: TP: Question & Answer / Trick Help
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2013, 12:24:44 PM »
Yeah forgot about those LJA methods :P
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Re: TP: Question & Answer / Trick Help
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2013, 12:55:32 PM »
Hello, i'm a new TP runner, and i've make a lot of try(15 hours) on the S&S Skip, and that's always doesn works, 2 little videos , can you help me please?(the second is on my 2nd and useless Twitch channel):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPDfiRfdztc

http://www.twitch.tv/syk_tv/b/459922875

For the precision, i've see mofat & ingx Tutorial ;) (but i can't make it TT_TT)

Thank you :D

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Re: TP: Question & Answer / Trick Help
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2013, 07:58:44 AM »
Hello, i'm a new TP runner, and i've make a lot of try(15 hours) on the S&S Skip, and that's always doesn works, 2 little videos , can you help me please?(the second is on my 2nd and useless Twitch channel):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPDfiRfdztc

http://www.twitch.tv/syk_tv/b/459922875

For the precision, i've see mofat & ingx Tutorial ;) (but i can't make it TT_TT)

Thank you :D
Time your second jump a little later and make sure you're directly up next to the bulblin when you do the first back hop, otherwise you'll be too far away to get the correct speed/distance in time.
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Re: TP: Question & Answer / Trick Help
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2013, 11:55:17 AM »
Thank's a lot, i've made it after you're answer, thanks a lot :)

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Re: TP: Question & Answer / Trick Help
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2013, 12:23:15 PM »
hey, whats the ideal 300 rupees to get in any%?

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Re: TP: Question & Answer / Trick Help
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2013, 09:42:58 AM »
hey, whats the ideal 300 rupees to get in any%?

You need to pay 300 rupees to Fyer for him to repair the cannon you use to enter City in the Sky.

EDIT: I'm sorry I misread your comment. You should practice getting the rupees on the tree tops during the snowboarding to SPR as you can get about 100 rupees during this part. There is also a Bubble you can kill with the Ball and Chain at the entrance of SPR which will drop a orange rupee. According to Chaoslink, if you swing the B&C the Bubble won't drop the rupee (at least not consistently) so throw it twice instead. After you get the Ball and Chain either Ooccoo out and re-enter or save warp and re-enter. The statue is the second one to the left in the first room. You can also get 50 rupees from a chest in Arbiter's right before the Bulblin fight. Furthermore, kill all ReDeads to get 80 rupees in Arbiter's Grounds. These methods should be excellent to reach the 300 mark.
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Re: TP: Question & Answer / Trick Help
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2013, 01:00:50 PM »
thanks

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Re: TP: Question & Answer / Trick Help
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2014, 12:05:46 PM »
hey,

sometimes i don't jump over the fence in the zombie hover for gorge skip

am i not mashing B fast enough or is it something else?

it feels so random whether i jump over it or not...

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Re: TP: Question & Answer / Trick Help
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2014, 02:30:32 PM »
hey,

sometimes i don't jump over the fence in the zombie hover for gorge skip

am i not mashing B fast enough or is it something else?

it feels so random whether i jump over it or not...
It's a frame rule; you have to hit b on a set of specific frames to get over. You just have to mash fast on the area where you slide over and hope you get it.
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Re: TP: Question & Answer / Trick Help
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2014, 01:29:05 AM »
If you mash fast enough you'll get it basically every time. Occasionally you can still miss it even mashing 15 times per second, but it's very, very rare. 10 per second or so should get you over at least 90% of the time.

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Re: TP: Question & Answer / Trick Help
« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2014, 09:16:19 PM »
Bokoblin pushing is really hard for me. It's the bane of my existence.

What's the secret to doing it consistently? I can usually push one to about halfway to the bird shop, but then he circles around me one way or the other, and I can't regain control and I just lose it.

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« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2014, 07:03:55 AM »
Are there speed differences if you run the gamecube version on the gamecube or wii? I'm not talking about the GCN/Wii version of the game, but about running the GCN version on Wii.
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« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2014, 08:48:00 AM »
Depending on how new/old the Wii is the loading times are faster. 2006-2009 ones are slower than 2010-2013 ones afaik. No clue if the Family Edition or Wii Mini are faster/slower.
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« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2014, 11:15:58 AM »
Is it legit to speedrun on Wii then? And what device do TP runners play on? Or doesn't it matter actually, because i'm really interested in learning to speedrun TP.
Thanks for the answer tho

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« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2014, 02:52:15 PM »
Yea it's legit, forcing people to buy a Gamecube would be shitty. I think most people use Wii.
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Re: TP: Question & Answer / Trick Help
« Reply #25 on: July 04, 2014, 01:35:02 PM »
Hi! I'm learning TP No S + Q and I'm having a little trouble with the bokoblins at the beginning of the game. I can push them fine all the way to the blue bird's shop(I forget his name), but when I push them in and try to go around and make the bird hit them, about 75% of the time they keep clipping back out and running up towards the wooden cage near the entrance to the forest temple. Is there any way to prevent this from constantly happening? Any help is appreciated.

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« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2014, 02:37:20 PM »
Hi! I'm learning TP No S + Q and I'm having a little trouble with the bokoblins at the beginning of the game. I can push them fine all the way to the blue bird's shop(I forget his name), but when I push them in and try to go around and make the bird hit them, about 75% of the time they keep clipping back out and running up towards the wooden cage near the entrance to the forest temple. Is there any way to prevent this from constantly happening? Any help is appreciated.
Try to wait shortly before pressing up next to the bokoblin; pushing against him immediately tends to make him pop out of the shop more from my experience. Where you push him into the shop is also important, because he can pass through the ropes (or whatever they are) more easily in some spots, or worse the game can softlock. Try pushing him in and waiting and observing him. When done right, he should get stuck in the corner and grind in place. When you push up against him, push up left (or more specifically, away from the rope where you pushed him in). This will make Trill attack faster and lessen the chance he will pop out.
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« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2015, 05:07:26 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMQ79QjPB9c

I'm trying to do this glitch, but it is so hard for 240 quality.

when I LJA to the ledge, I can't even get double jump attack like he did in the video.
I know how to do the LJA, but how does he manage to do a jump attack?

I tried double tapping A, tried hold L and tapping A, tried tapping them both... I did this while in midair and after I smacked the wall.
He says there's a paradox0 video...not on youtube!

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« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2015, 07:10:39 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMQ79QjPB9c

I'm trying to do this glitch, but it is so hard for 240 quality.

when I LJA to the ledge, I can't even get double jump attack like he did in the video.
I know how to do the LJA, but how does he manage to do a jump attack?

I tried double tapping A, tried hold L and tapping A, tried tapping them both... I did this while in midair and after I smacked the wall.
He says there's a paradox0 video...not on youtube!

Mash B after the LJA until the bomb boost.
http://www.zeldaspeedruns.com/tp/world/faron-province

The video you are referring to is not on Paraxade0's channel. It is on his old youtube channel MrP0tter. He got on the ledge without a bomb boost. It is very difficult to pull off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OxiIYx3Yv4
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« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2015, 09:29:55 PM »
Ahh, he was MrP0tter.

Figured out it was B...I need to try it non-bombs.

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« Reply #30 on: May 11, 2015, 05:50:34 PM »
Hi Guys!

So to start, I'm rather new to speed running, just started picking up 100% TP. I'm just having a bit of trouble with the Iza 1 skip. I've attempted to emulate dragonbane's video (https://youtu.be/QjNE3P3lZAI) , as well as tried to see how Devil6lair did his in the current WR but I'm just having a hard time. Every time I try to clip out of bounds I just bonk into the wall and fall into the water. I've been trying to do this for hours and only have successfully done it a few times and I'm not sure why. Is there a specific angle to this trick I'm just not seeing? Or maybe a setup that needs to be done?

Any help would be appreciated  :)

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« Reply #31 on: July 28, 2015, 06:31:25 PM »
Why is it faster to complete lakebed before snowpeak in the all dungeons route?

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« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2015, 06:03:50 PM »
Doing snowpeak early only saves 20 seconds to begin with and in AD we can't beat snowpeak before Lakebed as that would remove our lent bomb bag, so we need to beat Lakebed with it first or at least have waterbombs in the Goron Bag.

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« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2016, 02:46:51 PM »
Does anyone have any tips for gate clipping in TP HD? I managed to do it one time in Ordon but ever since I have been failing miserably at it. Specifically, I've been trying to gate clip from the locked side of Lanayru gate, as seen in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg7wp8kZxbw
What sort of angle is optimal for the gate clip? How many times should I try rolling into the gate before re-positioning Epona and trying again? I have been using the side part of the gate because apparently bonking into the lock is harder. I've been trying and trying at this and I'm not getting anywhere...  :-[ Any help I will greatly appreciate.