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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #80 on: September 08, 2010, 07:35:47 PM »
"To know what is right and choose to ignore it is the act of a coward."

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #81 on: September 08, 2010, 08:17:38 PM »
Weird. I don't think it would have uses lol.

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #82 on: September 08, 2010, 09:34:50 PM »
Weird. I don't think it would have uses lol.

LOL, no, I don't think so, but it was kinda weird.
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #83 on: September 13, 2010, 04:25:57 AM »
Apparently my version of the game seems to be very buggy/glitchy. Just ran across another weird glitch that happened while recording Lakebed temple for my LP.

I'm rendering the video now, and should be up in an hour or two.

I was once again attempting speedrun techniques, but gave up on a few so I didn't waste recording time, and then got the boss key after raising the level once. I then, went to attempt a long jump attack to the boss door, failed, fell in the water, and was headed for the vines to climb out and try again.

And then I swam underneath the bridge, and for some reason, the game though the water was raised another level, just underneath the bridge. I am unsure if one can recreate this, nor is it really helpful, but I sort of wonder if anyone else has had this problem while in this temple. Is there a possibility that the game thought it was full because I had gotten the boss key? And if so, why just underneath the bridge?

Video up in a few hours, but posting this early in case anyone has heard of this.

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Video up! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NIyXE4aB18

It's straight from my LP, so there is commentary. Just mute if you don't want to listen to it.
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #84 on: September 13, 2010, 11:00:09 AM »
The spinning staircase is already particularly glitchy to begin with. There seems to be a water actor attached to the stairs, and you can actually swim underneath the stairs if I recall correctly. However, I haven't seen anything this weird.
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #85 on: September 13, 2010, 02:32:05 PM »
An actor shouldn't cause you to be sucked in like that. Right?
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #86 on: September 15, 2010, 04:23:44 PM »
I think I have found a way to duplicate the bomb bag you get from the Zora at the end of Iza's rapids.  It makes use of the duplicate boomerang glitch.  Unfortunately, you need to get oob in the cabin right after you beat the messengers.  I got oob using AR codes but there might be another way without cheats.

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=TNO4URG1

I used the invisible floor cheat when going downstream just to make things slightly faster.  I'm not sure if this has any use in speedrunning but maybe there is a way to dupe other items that would be more useful.  Also, the quality is severely lacking in this video. 

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #87 on: September 15, 2010, 07:53:58 PM »
Might help in 100%

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #88 on: September 18, 2010, 07:12:06 AM »

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #89 on: September 18, 2010, 08:57:39 AM »
Yeah, i thought about it and it would take longer.

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #90 on: September 19, 2010, 07:19:42 PM »
Hyrule Castle Aeralfos Skip:

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=7VLGLJ4J

The only way I know of to escape the barriers right now is to get game over.

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #91 on: September 20, 2010, 03:55:40 PM »
Hyrule Castle Aeralfos Skip:

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=7VLGLJ4J

The only way I know of to escape the barriers right now is to get game over.
Very nice. You should get a youtube channel.
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #92 on: September 20, 2010, 05:32:52 PM »
Hyrule Castle Aeralfos Skip:

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=7VLGLJ4J

The only way I know of to escape the barriers right now is to get game over.

I assume you tried saving and quitting? Where did it put you after coming back into the game?
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #93 on: September 21, 2010, 04:11:30 PM »
Razor,

Thanks, I originally made a megavideo account so I could upload my ILs.  However, since those days are probably done for me and megavideo has some upload limitations, I think I will create a youtube account in the near future.

brynna,

Since Hyrule Castle is considered a dungeon in this game, save warping will place you back at the entrance of the whole level.  Death warping sends you to the last set of double doors you entered to get to the towers.  The fastest theoretical way to leave the barriers that I can think of is to somehow get oob and fall into a void.  You will reload in the same spot as death warping but you won't have to put up with the game over stuff.

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #94 on: September 21, 2010, 08:09:07 PM »
Looks like game over is the best for a speed run. Nice find
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #95 on: October 08, 2010, 05:10:08 PM »
Hello, I know this is probably the wrong place to ask this, but I didn't want to start a whole new thread...

I've been looking for a route for an any% segmented GCN run so if someone has a route written down somewhere it would be great if I could see it. Thanks

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #96 on: October 08, 2010, 06:52:01 PM »

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #97 on: October 08, 2010, 07:10:58 PM »
thanks a lot!

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #98 on: October 10, 2010, 07:14:42 AM »
I think that this glitch has been majorly overlooked and forgotten:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-9BAcMEGPI
Surely this could be used to skip the first and second goat games, unless freezes occur.
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #99 on: October 10, 2010, 06:13:17 PM »
no, it hasn't been. first off it doesn't work until after you've finished the second herding, second off you end up getting permanently stuck at the taming epona sequence

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #100 on: October 11, 2010, 01:20:21 PM »
no, it hasn't been. first off it doesn't work until after you've finished the second herding, second off you end up getting permanently stuck at the taming epona sequence
Too bad. I was really hoping it would skip the second goat herding.
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #101 on: October 11, 2010, 05:07:27 PM »
Has the second goat herding skip already been tested in conjunction with a BIT game file?

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #102 on: October 11, 2010, 05:12:14 PM »
Again. There is no second goat herding skip, because the trick doesn't work until you've already finished herding. It's 100% useless.

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #103 on: October 12, 2010, 11:15:08 AM »
Again. There is no second goat herding skip, because the trick doesn't work until you've already finished herding. It's 100% useless.

That doesn't answer my question.  I was wondering if this Ordon Ranch "alternative exit" was performed on a BIT game file.  If so, I was curious as to whether or not there is still a dead end at Kakariko Village, since Epona is already tamed, and if there are any other effects.   
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #104 on: October 29, 2010, 09:59:53 PM »
For those of you who don't quite get it yet, this is my theoretical "Skip half the forest" route

We do the normal Any% Seg route through from BiT up until just after the Sword and Shield skip. From there we do EMS normally, but without collecting bugs. We shouldn't need to collect them because we should be able to do BiT Equipped from Mayor Bo's house to jump straight into to Kakariko Twilight. From EMS we go over to the Forest Temple to collect the Gale Boomerang, then head to Bo's house, save, and BiTE.

Here is where we run into the big issue. We cannot warp from the map screen with Z warp without destroying the messengers on the other side of Kakariko Gorge, and without this we cannot warp the cannon for Early CitS. However, if we clear Kakariko Twilight, we lose the ability to learn the Z warp. So we have to figure out somehow to get to the other side of the bridge, or else Skipping half of the forest will be useless in a speedrun.

Despite that, the skip should still be possible. After we clear Kakariko Twilight, we should be able to activate the Map Glitch without the Z Map button in Hyrule Field and fly Epona around past the boulders blocking the path to Laranyu Twilight. However, I still haven't been able to manage to activate the map glitch unless Midna is on my back. Hopefully we'll also still be able to warp the Goron Rock as it doesn't require the Z Map button to warp, but I have a funny feeling that someone already tried this and failed with cheats. From there it should be relatively smooth sailing until the CitS subquest,where I've forgotten everything about that crap.
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #105 on: October 30, 2010, 07:34:35 PM »
We do the normal Any% Seg route through from BiT up until just after the Sword and Shield skip. From there we do EMS normally, but without collecting bugs. We shouldn't need to collect them because we should be able to do BiT Equipped from Mayor Bo's house to jump straight into to Kakariko Twilight.

Once you do S&S skip and enter Faron twilight, there is no way back to Bo's house until you collect the tears.

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #106 on: October 30, 2010, 08:25:37 PM »
Once you do S&S skip and enter Faron twilight, there is no way back to Bo's house until you collect the tears.

Oh yea, now I remember. S&S skip means the portal isn't opened...
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #107 on: October 31, 2010, 06:58:26 AM »
Stuff at Mirror Chamber

EDIT: Ohhh crap  finally did it, here´s segment 26 without that freakin' audio mess
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #108 on: November 24, 2010, 06:21:13 PM »
I think I found a new clip in the forest temple. If you come out of the room with the with the deku baba--Deku Baba Skip #2 on TP page-- and climb down the vine to your left, GCN, you can clip of of them by properly falling and regrabbing the vines. Is this new?
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #109 on: November 25, 2010, 09:08:38 PM »
Would it at all be possible to get a video of is or does it not same any time?

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« Reply #110 on: November 26, 2010, 06:49:47 AM »
Would it at all be possible to get a video of is or does it not same any time?
I can make a video, but the problem comes in uploading it. No there are no-timesavers in this, just something cool.
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #111 on: November 30, 2010, 09:09:26 PM »
What would be the problem with uploading it?

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #112 on: December 01, 2010, 01:45:58 PM »
What would be the problem with uploading it?
Movie maker won't recognize that my camcorder is hooked up to my computer, so I can't edit the tape to an uploadable file.
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #113 on: December 02, 2010, 08:40:48 AM »
Movie maker won't recognize that my camcorder is hooked up to my computer, so I can't edit the tape to an uploadable file.
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #114 on: December 26, 2010, 12:02:31 PM »
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #115 on: December 26, 2010, 01:10:16 PM »
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #116 on: April 25, 2011, 12:22:59 PM »
Goron Mines Quick Trick: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu7iyx1mPa4

The rest of the video is just my practice attempt as I play through the 100% route and hopefully start a serious run someday.  I'll try to upload the complete practice session later on.

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #117 on: June 20, 2011, 08:02:04 PM »
Hello people. I was curious if anyone has a full written route for gcn any% single segment? In one of the topics logitech has a vague one, but I'd like to have one with detailed instructions like chimpas' 100% route. If anyone has this, please post a link. Also how much time does bokoblin pushing save to skip days 1 and 2?

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #118 on: June 21, 2011, 01:47:41 PM »
I think he was asking about the single segment route, check out this video for the route http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkePHWEUCrM then modify it to be up to date. No idea how much time the pushing saves though

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #119 on: June 21, 2011, 04:00:30 PM »
Hello people. I was curious if anyone has a full written route for gcn any% single segment? In one of the topics logitech has a vague one, but I'd like to have one with detailed instructions like chimpas' 100% route. If anyone has this, please post a link. Also how much time does bokoblin pushing save to skip days 1 and 2?

Here's the newer route.

part 1
http://www.justin.tv/robwest/b/287067983
part 2
http://www.justin.tv/robwest/b/287068783
part 3
http://www.justin.tv/robwest/b/287069071

And bokoblin pushing + sword/shield skip saves over 5 minutes