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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2009, 11:41:51 AM »
It doesnt have to be all categories, we got a whole forum devoted towards TP now ;)

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2009, 11:48:33 AM »
ok i will edit

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2009, 12:54:36 PM »
just make this a general trick discussion thread, and when people are actually running the game they can make their own thread for the run. :P

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2009, 01:17:03 PM »
i know. i didn't see you make one. :P

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2009, 04:53:24 PM »
Should we move from SDA to here???

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2009, 06:09:10 PM »
Man, what ever happened to bomb boostin' in TP.
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2009, 06:21:01 PM »
Man, what ever happened to bomb boostin' in TP.
Not enough Goron Mask either...

We need hover in this game so bad, haha.
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2009, 09:08:58 PM »
Goron Mask is outdated. 8)

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2009, 06:56:30 AM »
Well, TP runs off of the Wind waker engine, and the engine is pretty stable, I mean, OoT has engine issues as did MM (Hovering, ISG, among other things) but these two games have no engine breaks. in TP there is LJA but that is the single lone engine glitch. Most glitches come from abusing the elements in rooms and such.

Just my 2 cents.
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2009, 10:16:45 AM »
Well, TP runs off of the Wind waker engine, and the engine is pretty stable, I mean, OoT has engine issues as did MM (Hovering, ISG, among other things) but these two games have no engine breaks. in TP there is LJA but that is the single lone engine glitch. Most glitches come from abusing the elements in rooms and such.

Just my 2 cents.

Don't forget about the Super Jump. Also, not sure if Vine Clipping and infinite air count as engine breaking. I'm sure there's more that I'm forgetting.

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2009, 01:15:02 PM »
Sorry for being a nub, but yeah, those are issues. However for the most part the engine is solid, compare it to OoT :3
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2009, 08:29:41 AM »
I was watching the twilight princess at the home page and:
Wasn't the ordon clip found by Fierce???
Wasn't the BiT found by Mast3rlinkX?

Also please watch this theory

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2009, 05:16:36 PM »
You're doing good on your speed run Chimpas

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2009, 05:46:08 PM »
You're doing good on your speed run Chimpas
Lets hope mzx doesn't change the entire route before Chimpas finishes.  :-\

Speaking of which, how is BiT coming mzx?
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2009, 06:37:22 PM »
Mzx got BiT after Faron gate clip which is pretty sex, works on wii also :D

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2009, 07:41:51 PM »
Lets hope mzx doesn't change the entire route before Chimpas finishes.  :-\

Speaking of which, how is BiT coming mzx?
I hope so also, I have never able to do the BiT with a void but if the route is changed I'll shure do it, will hurt since the LBT, snowpeak ruins, forest temple 1/3 and AG are not that easy to do...

I was watchin the FT tricks stuff and, the boomerang early was found by paraxade, using a trick found by fierce
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2009, 11:52:56 PM »
Lets hope mzx doesn't change the entire route before Chimpas finishes.  :-\

Speaking of which, how is BiT coming mzx?

I haven't made much progress on the BiT save because I've been sidetracked by the huge possibilities BiTE. But I'm about 90% sure now that the BiT save can be completed, and would save about 3-4 minutes on the any % now that Epona doesn't need to be tamed.

But then again, I could be wrong.

I hope so also, I have never able to do the BiT with a void but if the route is changed I'll shure do it, will hurt since the LBT, snowpeak ruins, forest temple 1/3 and AG are not that easy to do...

My guess is that you're trying to do BiT way to late, which is the same thing Jer was doing. Over a void, you should reset the game just a hair or two after Link reaches the peak of his jump. You're really going to have to play around with the timing though if you want to get it. I suggest recording your attempts so that if you do manage BiT you can figure out how to do it again.
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2009, 07:52:58 AM »
I was watchin the FT tricks stuff and, the boomerang early was found by paraxade, using a trick found by fierce

It was discovered by Acryte not Paraxade. (IIRC)

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2009, 01:28:33 PM »
you are correct!

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2009, 08:18:57 AM »
Is a fact: I'll leave my actual speedrun and do the BiT speedrun, I just need a written route because I don't know this glitch at all

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2009, 07:28:27 PM »
Is BiT faster than EMS? Also I would like that route to so I can do a playthrough using it.

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2009, 08:32:54 PM »
Yeah i think it might be faster then EMS

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2009, 04:44:52 AM »
We can't put the two together?  EMS saves well over 20 minutes, I can't see BiT saving more than that.
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2009, 06:41:55 AM »
When you BiT after Faron Gate Clip, you respawn with the Master sword, so idk how it would work

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2009, 08:13:15 AM »
When you BiT after Faron Gate Clip, you respawn with the Master sword, so idk how it would work
Nop, BiT after the gate clip and you wake up with ordon sword and Hylian Shield, then rescue talo using them, then do EMS and almost everything goes normal, BiT saves 5 minutes

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2009, 08:55:12 AM »
Yeah, you're right :P

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2009, 08:15:52 AM »
I'm having an amazing crazy idea:
#1 Do gate clip then BiT
#2 Rescue Talo, goats, Iron Boots, get Twilight
#3 Do Zelda, S&S Skip, Skip the tears
#4 Do Early Sacred Grove/MS
#5 Get FT early
#6 Rescue first two monkeys
#7 Boomerang Early
#8 DO BiTE (Master sword required or everything is spoiled)
#9 Scape Faron to Hyrule Field
#10 Gate clip to Lanayru

What do you think about?

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2009, 04:43:48 PM »
I'm having an amazing crazy idea:
#1 Do gate clip then BiT
#2 Rescue Talo, goats, Iron Boots, get Twilight
#3 Do Zelda, S&S Skip, Skip the tears
#4 Do Early Sacred Grove/MS
#5 Get FT early
#6 Rescue first two monkeys
#7 Boomerang Early
#8 DO BiTE (Master sword required or everything is spoiled)
#9 Scape Faron to Hyrule Field
#10 Gate clip to Lanayru

What do you think about?

How do you escape the forest in Twilight?
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2009, 07:32:03 AM »
How do you escape the forest in Twilight?
I already said I don't know how do BiT works, my idea was being at faron, like in the first days, having the boomerang, boots and master sword, so scape through the gate, but I don't know how would Link respawn at BiTE, if all items are there and not twilight, then my idea is possible.
 I can't test that myself, every time I attempt BiTE my game freeze

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2009, 05:13:46 AM »
sorry for my soooo bad english.


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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2009, 08:01:05 AM »
Quick bomb drops:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94UoFHk4Luk
How would that help us??

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2009, 11:51:19 AM »
How would that help us??
I didn't say it will be usefull.
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2009, 07:59:13 AM »
Hiya!! the newest find: at the sewers of MDH, skip the torches and sticks just lighting webs with the lantern  8) [Found by LoZTwilightPrincess4]

EDIT 1: can somebody tell em how to enter GM using the spinner? or better put a video of it

EDIT 2: HOLY SHIT!! SD2 IS WRONG!! he said there was a bubble with an orange rupee at the room after B&C, the bubble is there but no orange rupee!!!
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2009, 12:02:45 PM »
Hiya!! the newest find: at the sewers of MDH, skip the torches and sticks just lighting webs with the lantern  8) [Found by LoZTwilightPrincess4]

EDIT 1: can somebody tell em how to enter GM using the spinner? or better put a video of it

EDIT 2: HOLY SHIT!! SD2 IS WRONG!! he said there was a bubble with an orange rupee at the room after B&C, the bubble is there but no orange rupee!!!

Pretty sure TPfox used that in his run, or at least he told me about it a long ass time ago.

Talk to Cor Goron, the dude you sumo, whatever his name is, a bunch. After that walk out then back in and just use the spinner to get through the invisible wall.

The orange rupee doesn't always drop. It's random.

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2009, 07:12:30 AM »
Pretty sure TPfox used that in his run, or at least he told me about it a long ass time ago.

Talk to Cor Goron, the dude you sumo, whatever his name is, a bunch. After that walk out then back in and just use the spinner to get through the invisible wall.

The orange rupee doesn't always drop. It's random.
Thankyou very much!!
EDIT: I decided to redo my BiT run, the one i was doing was so badass and sloopy, I was feeling like sick doing the same I had done perfectly before, but this time I promise it will be the GREATEST SPEEDRUN you will see in your life :D
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #36 on: October 08, 2009, 04:21:03 PM »
GOOD! IT BETTER BE! And chimpas, get those chumps from SDA over here mangz we need the TP kids!

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #37 on: October 10, 2009, 09:43:24 PM »
Getting the rupee dive should work in Lake Hylia without gale boomerang. It might be possible to get into Lakebed as a wolf.
I couldn't tolerate breaking jars over and over in Lake Hylia to keep testing this. A blue rupee appeared 3 times in 2 hours. This should work there though, and will save a few seconds with a GCN any% run.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwr0DhU0WOs
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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #38 on: October 12, 2009, 07:33:04 AM »
GOOD! IT BETTER BE! And chimpas, get those chumps from SDA over here mangz we need the TP kids!
I will my master 8)

EDIT: SZ19 Trick
« Last Edit: October 13, 2009, 08:00:35 AM by Chimpas »

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Re: General Trick Discussion
« Reply #39 on: October 16, 2009, 06:03:35 PM »